Re: no destroot

2014-10-13 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Oct 13, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Robert Broome wrote: > > :error:install org.macports.install for port coreutils returned: no destroot > found at: > /opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_sysutils_coreutils/coreutils/work/destroot > :debug:ins

no destroot

2014-10-13 Thread Robert Broome
I am trying to perform a routine "update outdated" on my Mac 10.6.8 installation. I have done this many times in the past. This time: Error: org.macports.install for port coreutils returned: no destroot found at: /opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_rel

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Michael Crawford
X11 goes back to way before Mac OS X, as well as long before Linux. I first built X11 on SunOS (not Solaris) in 1989, on a workstation that was running Sunview. I still own a copy of Mac X (or some such) that ran on System 7. I've never read the X11 spec but my understanding is that it only defi

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, please take your conversation off-list. We don't want to be on Lennart's next list of hostile open source projects. -- Clemens Lang (I admit, I couldn't resist that one. But please, go arguing elsewhere.) ___ macports-users mailing list macports-u

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, René J.V. wrote: > I'm going to stop this discussion here, and not even try to understand > where this comes from. > Take your own advice, and see if you can make any sense out of your own > proclamations. > If you will stop parroting Linux propagandists almost

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Monday October 13 2014 11:27:26 Brandon Allbery wrote: > So unix/hostname:display was somehow not Unix? You're just digging the hole > deeper. Stop, think, consider --- or go back to Linux, since your purity is > being corrupted by defective other operating systems that refuse to do > things th

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:15 AM, René J.V. wrote: > > view towards the way things are in Linux-land. > > Correction: Unix. X11 was around (long) before Linux, and no matter how > you turn it, OS X *is* a Unix OS. > So unix/hostname:display was somehow not Unix? You're just digging the hole deep

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Monday October 13 2014 15:27:18 Chris Jones wrote: > Any scripts that make any assumptions on what $DISPLAY looks like are > flawed by designed... > Clearly its my opinion, as I stated it. Apologies if that was not obvious. No, sorry, you phrased your opinion as an absolute truth. I

Re: when will apache be updated to 2.2.29?

2014-10-13 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Oct 13, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Wes James wrote: > > I did an update on my system but it is not changing from apache 2.2.27. When > will macports have 2.2.29 available? I did not realize 2.2.29 was available. Now that I know, I've updated the port. Wait 30 minutes, then "sudo port selfupdate", a

when will apache be updated to 2.2.29?

2014-10-13 Thread Wes James
I did an update on my system but it is not changing from apache 2.2.27. When will macports have 2.2.29 available? Thanks, Wes ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macpor

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Chris Jones
On 13/10/14 15:09, René J.V. Bertin wrote: On Monday October 13 2014 14:34:15 Chris Jones wrote: Any scripts that make any assumptions on what $DISPLAY looks like are flawed by designed... My argument is not based on what some standard says about what DISPLAY should or should look like, but

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:09 AM, René J.V. wrote: > As long as there is documentation that's not contradicted/superseded by > more recent/authoritative documents and that states that the 1st element of > $DISPLAY refers to the X server host, using that information in code may > not be the most f

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Monday October 13 2014 14:34:15 Chris Jones wrote: > >> Any scripts that make any assumptions on what $DISPLAY looks like are > >> flawed by designed... > My argument is not based on what some standard says about what DISPLAY > should or should look like, but the basic premise that extracting

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > My argument is not based on what some standard says about what DISPLAY > should or should look like, but the basic premise that extracting > information from $DISPLAY is just a bad idea and should be avoided. Note that p5-x11-protocol has le

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, Any scripts that make any assumptions on what $DISPLAY looks like are flawed by designed... I don't agree : (and not being an English fully-native speaker myself I won't comment about arguments with grammatical errors :P ) http://www.xfree86.org/4.0/X.7.html#toc4 http://www.x.org/archive

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:53 AM, René J.V. wrote: > >The simple reason to why Linux does it one way and OS X another, however, > >is that on Linux X11 is primary and gets "naming rights". on OS X, it is > an > >interloper and does not get to choose for itself how the system it's on > >works or wh

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:50 AM, René J.V. wrote: > Come to think of it, I can't (or maybe, refuse to) see a good, compelling > reason why a local X11 server would have to use a non-human-readable > $DISPLAY spec if it can be identified uniquely through :0 (or :1, :2 etc > for subsequent instance

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread Chris Jones
On 13/10/14 11:50, René J.V. Bertin wrote: Come to think of it, I can't (or maybe, refuse to) see a good, compelling reason why a local X11 server would have to use a non-human-readable $DISPLAY spec if it can be identified uniquely through :0 (or :1, :2 etc for subsequent instances). It's als

Re: Problem with $DISPLAY

2014-10-13 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Come to think of it, I can't (or maybe, refuse to) see a good, compelling reason why a local X11 server would have to use a non-human-readable $DISPLAY spec if it can be identified uniquely through :0 (or :1, :2 etc for subsequent instances). It's also how Linux manages things if additional user

Re: Problem with cssh

2014-10-13 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Monday October 13 2014 09:49:12 Chris Jones wrote: > Your mode of operation is highly non-standard... Most people find the > launchd approach very convenient. Why would you *want* to have to start > it by hand all the time... Because I always have a server running with a couple of xterms and

Re: Problem with cssh

2014-10-13 Thread Chris Jones
On 13/10/14 01:05, René J.V. Bertin wrote: On Sunday October 12 2014 18:54:12 Brandon Allbery wrote: No, it still uses launchd. And, such unusual DISPLAYs *do* exist outside of Only if you leave the launchd plist in place. I prefer to launch my X11 server by hand or not at all, so the plist