/bin/sh - POSIX?

2017-03-07 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, Can someone please confirm whether /bin/sh is still POSIX compliant on 10.12.latest (i.e. `/bin/sh --version` shows it's actually bash), please? thanks, René

Re: /bin/sh - POSIX?

2017-03-07 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:12:07 +0100, René J.V. Bertin wrote: Hi, Can someone please confirm whether /bin/sh is still POSIX compliant on 10.12.latest (i.e. `/bin/sh --version` shows it's actually bash), please? thanks, René from `man bash': "If bash is invoked with the name sh, it tries

Re: /bin/sh - POSIX?

2017-03-07 Thread Yongwei Wu
>From the man page: Bash is largely compatible with `sh' and incorporates useful features from the Korn shell `ksh' and the C shell `csh'. It is intended to be a conformant implementation of the IEEE POSIX Shell and Tools portion of the IEEE POSIX specification (IEEE Standard 1003.1). It offers f

Re: /bin/sh - POSIX?

2017-03-07 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Thanks. This doesn't really answer the question if /bin/sh is still bash but I suppose there is little chance that has changed since 10.9 . R.

Re: /bin/sh - POSIX?

2017-03-07 Thread Julien Salort
René J.V. Bertin wrote: > Thanks. This doesn't really answer the question if /bin/sh is still bash > but I suppose there is little chance that has changed since 10.9 . I am running Sierra 10.12.3. % /bin/sh --version GNU bash, version 3.2.57(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin16) Copyright (C) 2007

`port self update` fails

2017-03-07 Thread Rasku, Stephen (GE Digital)
I am trying to do a “selfupdate” but it’s failing. Note that our company may be blocking outgoing pings so that might explain the problematic ping/traceroute results. I am able to get to rsync.macports.org but it re-directs to distfiles.macports.org. Usually I am behind a proxy but I ran thi

Re: /bin/sh - POSIX?

2017-03-07 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:41:42 +0100, René J.V. Bertin wrote: Thanks. This doesn't really answer the question if /bin/sh is still bash but I suppose there is little chance that has changed since 10.9 . right. and I would have thought _that_ part of your original mail (the main part seeming

Re: Is Macports down?

2017-03-07 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017, Dave Horsfall wrote: > Thanks; that nails it to my back yard, then :-( A posting on an unrelated subject reminded me about something: I recently upgraded my broadband service from ADSL (copper) to fibre, and a new router was supplied. I've since discovered that the router (

Re: Is Macports down?

2017-03-07 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Mar 7, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Tue, 7 Mar 2017, Dave Horsfall wrote: > A posting on an unrelated subject reminded me about something: I recently > upgraded my broadband service from ADSL (copper) to fibre, and a new > router was supplied. I've since discovered that the r

fail to destroot port with only makefile

2017-03-07 Thread db
I'm trying to port a client that comes with only a makefile, but fail to destroot it, although it sort of does if I sudo manually. I attach the log. https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr-cpp-client/blob/master/Makefile main.log Description: Binary data

Re: fail to destroot port with only makefile

2017-03-07 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 7, 2017, at 10:15, db wrote: > I'm trying to port a client that comes with only a makefile, but fail to > destroot it, although it sort of does if I sudo manually. I attach the log. > > https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr-cpp-client/blob/master/Makefile > > The Makefile does not suppor

Re: `port self update` fails

2017-03-07 Thread Ryan Schmidt
> On Mar 7, 2017, at 09:32, Rasku, Stephen (GE Digital) > wrote: > > I am trying to do a “selfupdate” but it’s failing. Has it ever worked? > Note that our company may be blocking outgoing pings so that might explain > the problematic ping/traceroute results. Tell your company to fix that;

Re: /bin/sh - POSIX?

2017-03-07 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Tuesday March 07 2017 16:32:37 j. van den hoff wrote: > right. and I would have thought _that_ part of your original mail (the > main part seemingly was concerned with POSIX compliance, no?) you had > already answered yourself via issuing `/bin/sh --version'? Indeed, but on 10.9 . I needed

Re: Is Macports down?

2017-03-07 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Tue, 7 Mar 2017, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > DNS uses udp (and some tcp). I'd be really surprised if it blocked /all/ > udp packets (and if so, I would get my provider to replace it or let me > replace it with something that didn't suck). To clarify: DNS works OK, but nothing else on UDP does.

Re: `port self update` fails

2017-03-07 Thread Rasku, Stephen (GE Digital)
On 2017-03-07, 8:33 AM, "Ryan Schmidt" wrote: > On Mar 7, 2017, at 09:32, Rasku, Stephen (GE Digital) wrote: > > I am trying to do a “selfupdate” but it’s failing. Has it ever worked? It used to work. > Note that our company may be blocking outgoing pings s

Re: fail to destroot port with only makefile

2017-03-07 Thread db
On 7 Mar 2017, at 17:29, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > The Makefile does not support DESTDIR. Ideally, fix the Makefile to support > DESTDIR and submit that to the developers. MacPorts Guide links to http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/DESTDIR.html, where it states 'You should not set the valu

Re: fail to destroot port with only makefile

2017-03-07 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 7, 2017, at 12:37, db wrote: > On 7 Mar 2017, at 17:29, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> The Makefile does not support DESTDIR. Ideally, fix the Makefile to support >> DESTDIR and submit that to the developers. > > MacPorts Guide links to > http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/DESTDIR.html

Re: Trac login

2017-03-07 Thread Geoff Down
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017, at 03:42 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > > On Mar 6, 2017, at 15:44, Geoff Down wrote: > > 10.4.11 .That's also why I can't access Trac via Github. > > Safari on Tiger can access GitHub, but not MacPorts' new servers, because > MacPorts' new servers use SNI which Safari on Tige

Re: fail to destroot port with only makefile

2017-03-07 Thread db
On 7 Mar 2017, at 20:00, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > That can be an acceptable workaround. Sometimes it has side effects. I don't > know if it does with this port. Can you give an example? Something strange I found is that file copy fails silently, no log whatsoever, pre- and post-destroot. post-de

Re: Is Macports down?

2017-03-07 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > DNS uses udp (and some tcp). I'd be really surprised if it blocked /all/ > udp packets (and if so, I would get my provider to replace it or let me > replace it with something that didn't suck). Usuually this is trying to force you to use

Re: /bin/sh - POSIX?

2017-03-07 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:38 AM, René J.V. Bertin wrote: > Indeed, but on 10.9 . I needed to be certain that there had been no > changes no matter how unlikely that seemed (or not, given Apple's allergy > towards GPL'ed software). Not GPL in general, just GPL3. Which is why they ship the last G

Re: fail to destroot port with only makefile

2017-03-07 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 7, 2017, at 13:27, db wrote: > On 7 Mar 2017, at 20:00, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> That can be an acceptable workaround. Sometimes it has side effects. I don't >> know if it does with this port. > > Can you give an example? Suppose the program builds a dynamic library. The absolute path of

Re: Surf port

2017-03-07 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Mar 4, 2017, at 12:07 , Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On 27 February 2017 at 11:16, Mojca Miklavecwrote: >> On 27 February 2017 at 11:07, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >>> >>> I just figured out that k3dsurf depends on qt3-mac which doesn't >>> compile on > 10.6, but one can still install qt3 and compile k

Re: /bin/sh - POSIX?

2017-03-07 Thread Yongwei Wu
I think people paid more attention to the first part of your question (whether /bin/sh is POSIX compliant) than the second part in parentheses (whether it is bash—I completely misunderstood that part). On 7 March 2017 at 22:41, René J.V. Bertin wrote: > Thanks. This doesn't really answer the ques