Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, The default browser was Camino and IE 5.5. Thanks, Alex, On 18-Apr-09, at 10:44 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: I hope it doesn't either!! omg I asked my mom what happened to our old friend the mac from back in the day, and she just laughed and said she didn't know! like they threw it away

zMachine interpreter

2009-04-19 Thread Jonathan Chacón
Hello is there any zMachine interpreter compatible with voiceOver? thanks and regards Jonathan Chacón --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, I didn't know that. Thanks, Alex, On 18-Apr-09, at 9:05 PM, John J Herzog wrote: Hi all, I know that mac OS 9.1 was named limelight and 9.2 was named moonlight. I don't know what the others were before that. Also, here is a great web site that talks about old school macs and their

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, I have an old Apple compatable modem I was just about to throw out. Thanks, Alex, On 18-Apr-09, at 9:08 PM, Tiffany D wrote: I thought it was just me with the restarting. But yes, I'm seeing this more as well and it's very annoying. The volume will go up and VoiceOver will restart.

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, There were no such names as tiger or leopard at that time. As far as i remember the system was called system 7. I think it was called Macos from v8 or possibly v9 but i can be wrong. It would be interesting with a little history lesson from a blindness perspective of apple products

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Jessi Rathwell
yeah, that would be interesting, a history lesson about accessibility. although, it doesn't seem like there was too much accessibility before VO. outspoken seemed like it only did so much. that's funny people were protesting against GUI's though, although I can see how they might think

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Just curious since i never have layed my hands on an Apple II, what screen readers were used on those beasts and how were they compared to the screen readers for Dos or such at that time? /Krister 19 apr 2009 kl. 06.08 skrev Tiffany D: I thought it was just me with the restarting. But

Self voicing e-mail for iPhone

2009-04-19 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Good morning, I kow that the iPhone does not have a screen-reader, probably not even possible to develop unless you're Apple. But, has anyone heard of an e-mail application for the iPhone that using TTS to be self-voicing? Looking for a low vision friend. Thanks, Everett Follow me on

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Baxter
The only VO crash I think I've noticed is occurring sometimes in Ichat, when I attempt to interact with the html frame to read the messages. In about five seconds, vo says, Oh, have we started again? which is what I have it say when it starts up, and then all's well. If this is the

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Baxter
I gave a presentation on the use of the Mac with OutSpoken to the Visually Impaired and Blind User's Group in 1990, shortly after moving to Boston, MA to take a job in which I used the Mac and OutSpoken to perform my job duties. At the time, a rep from one of the local institutions who

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Baxter
Outspoken was great up until system 6, and even though I didn't use it after that, Berkeley systems put out patches for it through System seven or eight. I held down a job, used a network and the Internet (such as it was), wrote a novel-length work of science fiction with it. I used a

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Baxter
I used Textalker, spelled just that walk, put out by Street Electronics Corp. Software by Larry Skutcham (sp?) I hear he's still around the accessibility scene somewhere, man he's gotta be like 80 by now. :) Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN:

Re: Accessible file sharing client

2009-04-19 Thread kaare dehard
try utorrent. it has both mac and pc versions that I have tried and both are quite accessible. On 18-Apr-09, at 1:47 AM, Brett Campbell wrote: Has anyone found a fully accessible file sharing client? I've tried Bittorrent, but most everything is announced as unknown. Suggestions with

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread kaare dehard
the old os's were just numbered, no nice marketing stuff like cat names. Just a number. On 18-Apr-09, at 3:59 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the rest of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about before? lol. On

it at times like this I get frustrated

2009-04-19 Thread william lomas
hi i want to play this video http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/archers/backstage/tom_and_amy_video.shtml as i an archers fan but will safari on the mac let me play it? no. that's the one disadvantage with mac in my view that adobe have not integrated flash access for us

ignore

2009-04-19 Thread william lomas
hi ignore m last rant, the site i illuded to doesn't have any audio content on it will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: ignore

2009-04-19 Thread william lomas
ah so we can't access it? On 19 Apr 2009, at 16:41, Dean Wilcox wrote: If you mean the link to the Archers related content it does have audio content you just need to click a button to get it to play. That button is in the flash. At 16:23 19/04/2009, you wrote: hi ignore

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Scott Howell
Ah, Larry isn't quite that old, but he is aging nicely. He works for APH these days and last I knew, doing very well. On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Mark Baxter wrote: I used Textalker, spelled just that walk, put out by Street Electronics Corp. Software by Larry Skutcham (sp?) I hear he's

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Baxter
Oh right on! :) If it wasn't for his Proterm talking terminal emulator, I wouldn't have become addicted to chat networks. I might still be a virgin, even. :) Mark BurningHawk Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

RE: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Cameron
Hi. I agree. Back in the day, When I used Outspoken on my Macintosh II S I, and then on my powerbook later, I was able to get many things done and I found it to be an efficient way to work. I really grew to like outspoken as well as my macs. I found outspoken's commands and implementation

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Tiffany D
Oh my Gods Vert! I've got the disks and synth for it but I'll be damned if I can use it. It's more complicated than dos itself! I love the synth and wish I could use it for other stuff (same voice as the Language Master and the Keynote Voicecard) but unfortunately, it only works with Vert.

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, It is like FF customized for Mac. It is still out there. It is like native FF for Mac made by Mozilla. Thanks, Alex, On 19-Apr-09, at 2:11 AM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: camino? hmm. never heard of it, lol. and IE? eww! lol. so glad safari was invented!! haha. peace and positivity

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Jessi Rathwell
aww. things that are just numbers make me sad. nothing should be just a number. lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 7:49 AM, kaare dehard wrote: the old os's were just numbered, no nice marketing stuff like cat names. Just a

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Jessi Rathwell
yeah, I get questions like that all the time. how easy it to do this? you use the mac for everything? wow. like they don't believe it can work or something. it's sad!! I know apple wasn't always known for its accessibility in the past but they're really really doing a complete 180 and

Flash and VO alternative

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, If we could make GNash accessible on the Mac, it is an implimentation of Flash that we can modify. Sure it isn't full blown Flash support, but better than what we have now. What do you think? Thanks, Alex, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, Jessi, It is called my server room. Full of like all this old stuff. Thanks, Alex, On 19-Apr-09, at 2:34 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: lol nice!!! man I wish we still had that old mac, I'd love so badly to dig it up and see if it still worked lol. sadness. someone really needs to put

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, Jessi, Like students in a university. Lol. Thanks, Alex, On 19-Apr-09, at 2:30 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: aww. things that are just numbers make me sad. nothing should be just a number. lol. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On

Re: Flash and VO alternative

2009-04-19 Thread Jessi Rathwell
sounds good, if we can do it, is it open source or something? hopefully better flash support will be there in snow leopard! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:34 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, If we could make GNash accessible on

Re: Flash and VO alternative

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, Yes it is Open-Source. Thanks, Alex, On 19-Apr-09, at 2:38 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: sounds good, if we can do it, is it open source or something? hopefully better flash support will be there in snow leopard! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, Matthew, one of my students has it saying Yo Dude, ... Welcome or something. In case yall didn't know I'm a tech teacher in BC now. Thanks, Alex, On 19-Apr-09, at 2:29 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: hahahaha! what's up, dude? that's cute, lol. I need to change mine! right now it says

Re: Flash and VO alternative

2009-04-19 Thread Greg Kearney
Flash support will have to come from Adobe and not Apple, and Adobe has shown no interest, and in fact has been down right hostile to the idea of doing so. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkear...@gmail.com On 19/04/2009, at 3:38 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote:

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Jessi Rathwell
lol. well, if we can convince skytrain to expand and come all the way out here so I'm not stuck in this boring prison town, I'll gladly come over to your house and see it! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:37 PM, Alex Jurgensen

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Jessi Rathwell
hey now!!! I'm much more than a number. lol. my student number does not define me. lol. and nor should these numbers of these old OS's. they should stand up for their rights to be named! lol peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:38

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Jessi Rathwell
lol so glad you showed Matthew the good side. I wish I could help you. I'd be glad too if I lived closer. I'd love to show people the wonders of voiceover. peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 2:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi,

Re: Flash and VO alternative

2009-04-19 Thread Jessi Rathwell
yeah, that's what I've heard, that they're really against the idea. how did they get it working half decently with windows, then? were the adobe people more willing to work with windows or did the windows screenreader developers do it themselves? and if they did, why can't apple

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Scott Howell
Apple makes a usb-based modem. Last I checked it was about $56 US. On Apr 19, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: oh, dang. you read my mind, lol. I was thinking I could use it. I'm lookin' for a dialup modem that works with USB. if such a thing even exists! having to use my pc when I'm

Re: Flash and VO alternative

2009-04-19 Thread ben mustill-rose
Personally, I think that alex needs a c coder. As far as adobe goes, its not nice of them, but I can't say I blaim them if they have a be in there bonnit with apple *cough Iphone cough* really. On 19/04/2009, Jessi Rathwell sanginsista3...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, that's what I've heard, that

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Yeah they do have a USB modem available, however, in reading reviews on it, I'm not too sure about it. Does anyone on this list here have it, and if so have they had good luck with it? Some of the reviews, make the product seem like it's not even worth the money. On Apr 19, 2009, at

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Jessi Rathwell
hmm. maybe I'll look into it!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 3:21 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Apple makes a usb-based modem. Last I checked it was about $56 US. On Apr 19, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: oh, dang. you

Re: vo crashes and answers to Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Justin Harford
Wow back in my day it was like 40 US. Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic strip. El 19/04/2009, a las 17:42, Jessi Rathwell escribió: hmm. maybe I'll look into it!! peace and positivity

Re: oldschool mac nostalgia

2009-04-19 Thread Brandon Misch
wasn't an old os named basculous or something? On Apr 18, 2009, at 11:20 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote: lol really? a funeral? that's hilarious!! I wonder if there are youtube videos? haha. here lies OS9.2.2, no name. it's served us faithfuly for many months, but it is now time for it to rest in

Re: Flash and VO alternative

2009-04-19 Thread E.J. Zufelt
On 19-Apr-09, at 6:42 PM, Greg Kearney wrote: Flash support will have to come from Adobe and not Apple, and Adobe has shown no interest, and in fact has been down right hostile to the idea of doing so. Can you support your claim of hostility by Adobe with facts? Adobe makes a great deal

Re: Flash and VO alternative

2009-04-19 Thread Greg Kearney
Why yes I can per a phone conversation I personally had with the parties involved at Adobe and confirmed by the staff of Vision Australia in Melbourne at the time. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkear...@gmail.com On 19/04/2009, at 9:29 PM, E.J. Zufelt