Hi Folks,
I remember a way to highlight a column at once by moving the cursor to the
column head by pressing VO + Shift + Apostrophy (on german keyboards) and
choosing columns from the upcomming menue. So far so good. But I can't remember
what to press next to highlight the complete column at
That is normal. Let it be. Some day you can't find an important email. Where to
look? The Mailbox called all email. Others may tell you how to disable this
mailbox.
Take care
5. juli 2014 kl. 04:23 skrev Desi Noller desi.nol...@gmail.com:
Hi Everyone and Happy Fourth!
I have a gmail account
Have any of you tried the Beats streaming music service? Don't have it in
Norway. Not accessible? Curious since Apple bought the company. Looking forward
to test the product some time.
Take care
5. juli 2014 kl. 01:45 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com:
I just made a free account to try it
I am receiving an update notification regarding adobe Flash player, but nothing
I do is starting the update. I have tried interacting and hitting vo shift
space or enter on download; I have tried interacting with where it says image
browser, but I am consistently getting an error noise.
I
I wouldn't worry about it. In any case, I would advise you to download the
latest flash player from adobe's main site. Just in case, this update that you
try to install puts something bad on your system.
I'm not trying to frighten you here but I'd advise you to always get something
from the
Hi everyone,
I've been a lurker on this list for a while now. I've become interested
in learning how to program, specifically to build apps for iOS, to start with
at least. But, I'm wondering where is a good place to start learning, and where
are there good educational resources for
Free is indeed best. :) I recommend simply googling learn objective-c to
start with, and reading the tutorials you find. Some will make more sense than
others, but which ones depend on your background, learning style, and so forth.
For using Xcode, www.applevis.com has a few guides and forums
Thanks so much! :) This is the sort of help I was looking for! Thanks for the
list recommendation as well as I was looking for one.
Dawn
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
Free is indeed best. :) I recommend simply googling learn
Hi Dawn,
One of the best resources is sitting on your Mac in iTunes. iTunes U has
several Mac programming courses that will help you conceptually understand
what's happening under the hood of your iDevice. some courses come with
material to follow along with, but you can also supplement this
Thanks Kevin! :)
Dawn
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Kevin Shaw tvsound...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dawn,
One of the best resources is sitting on your Mac in iTunes. iTunes U has
several Mac programming courses that will help you conceptually understand
what's happening
I am not sure. What I do need to know however, is how to print numbers document
on my computer. Yesterday when I tried this, it tried to make me select parts
of the document. I wanted to print the entire thing.
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On Jul 3, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Jürgen Fleger
I think the website you want is www.get.Adobe.com
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it. In any case, I would advise you to download the
latest flash player from adobe's main site. Just in case, this
I think it asks that because spreadsheets, unlike other documents, require a
lot of formatting. They can be very large and you don't want to send a huge
spreadsheet to your printer. So, it makes you go through some selection
process of what you want to print. That's my best guess. At least
Clicking the column header you know, a, B, etc. That will select of the column.
Another way to do it is simply to hold the shift key and press command down
arrow while you're at the top of the column. That should select the entire
column.
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On Jul 3, 2014, at 4:47 AM,
We've all been looking for those for ages, but not sure if there are that many
yet. To my knowledge, unless someone knows something I don't and wants to add
to this, I think the only ones that seems to be available, are the ones you
mentioned and rsgames.
On Jul 4, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Brandon
What's that? I've never heard of it, sounds interesting though.
On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote:
Have any of you tried the Beats streaming music service? Don't have it in
Norway. Not accessible? Curious since Apple bought the company. Looking
Hi Dawn.
The best language to start learning at this point is swift. Objective C is
probably going to be fazed out within the next few years. A good place to
start is https://developer.apple.com/swift/.
Also, all of the sessions from WWDC 2014 are available to the public on
hello i don't know about note editing.
expanding the loop is you have to go to the tacks contents then interact with
it interact again with the loop you selected then interact again with the
name called loop. then you have to press right arrow that's it.
On 04 Jul 2014, at 06:43 pm,
I heard about a new racing game for Mac and PC. It costs and is not available
in the Mac AppStore. You must buy it online.
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
We've all been looking for those for ages, but not sure if there are that
HI,
Flash installers react better when you just use the tab and space keys, no VO
keys. So, use the tab key to move between elements and use the spacebar to
activate the button. VO should announce which element has focus as it lands on
it. This dialog is safe, as you've likely set Flash in
While I certainly agree that Swift is the future, just remember that you can't
do much with it until Yosemite is released with Xcode 6. To my knowledge, and I
hope I'm wrong, there is no way to do anything with Swift right now unless you
are also testing the Xcode 6 beta, which itself requires
If this hasn't already been suggested, often you can just hit the two letter
abbreviation for the state (FL, for Florida, for example) and then VO Space to
collapse the pop-up menu, and when you cursor back over it, the state will be
selected. Hope that's not redundant.
* Mark BurningHawk
Hey mark, I tried that, and no luck.
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Do you have a link for it?
On Jul 5, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
I heard about a new racing game for Mac and PC. It costs and is not available
in the Mac AppStore. You must buy it online.
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Jessica Moss
No, I am sure a google search will find it.
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
wrote:
Do you have a link for it?
On Jul 5, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
I heard about a new racing game for Mac and PC.
Hi,
Some pop-ups are coded oddly and don't respond to regular VO actions. Try just
your arrow key then return.
Later...
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey mark, I tried that, and no luck.
Matt Dierckens
Macintosh
There is zoom for mac, which allows for the playing of zCode games and other
types of text-based games. There is also Mudder, a game for playing alter-aeon
and other such online text-based games.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
On Jul 5, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com
Why just objective c? Why not start out with Swift?
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
On Jul 5, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
Free is indeed best. :) I recommend simply googling learn objective-c to
start with, and reading the tutorials you find. Some will make more sense
Hi all
What a fantastic way to do some online studying, I am going to check out
iTunes U for my future studies. I am currently taking some at The Hadley
School For The Blind but am always looking for ideas. So thank you for
the iTunes U idea very much appreciated.
--
Christopher Hallsworth
Again, no one can even use Swift right now; you'll need Xcode 6, or at least a
beta of it. Plus, even as Swift takes over, plenty of the tutorials you find
will continue to be in Objective-C. Finally, most Cocoa and Cocoa Touch headers
will be in Objective-C for quite a while, I imagine, so if
I wish they could integrate the 2 of them.
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all
What a fantastic way to do some online studying, I am going to check out
iTunes U for my future studies. I am currently taking some at
My favorite action game for the Mac is Audio Quake. I do not know if it is
still in development, but the final version was pretty awesome. It may take
some work to set it up, and I don't have the active links to send you to, but
Cara Quinn, one of our list moderators, can give you more
Oh wow, I didn't know it could even work on the mac.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
On Jul 5, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote:
My favorite action game for the Mac is Audio Quake. I do not know if it is
still in development, but the final version was pretty awesome.
Hello all:
I had a couple questions:
I'm adding a ton of events to one calendar and trying to make this quick.
1) Can I set the default calendar to add events to for a while?
2) Even though I choose the day, for whatever reason every time I add a
new event I have to choose the exact day again.
It doesn't work that way as far as I can tell. VoiceOver doesn't anounce
anything about highlighting or so, unfortunately. Any other ideas?
Thanks
Jürgen
Am 05.07.2014 um 15:30 schrieb Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com:
Clicking the column header you know, a, B, etc. That will select of the
I just went to the audio-quake site, and the mac universal app isn't even
available now.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
On Jul 5, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
Oh wow, I didn't know it could even work on the mac.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
On Jul 5, 2014, at
My first thought is a Workflow; add the New Calendar item to it, configure it,
then just envelope the workflow to add your event. Alternatively, as I know you
do some programming, you might want to investigate making an AppleScript for
the job, to do everything at once.
On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:46
How do you make apple scripts? Is it easy?
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
My first thought is a Workflow; add the New Calendar item to it, configure
it, then just envelope the workflow to add your event. Alternatively, as I
know you do
It's pretty easy, yes. I learned everything from simply googling, starting with
basics of AppleScript and moving on from there. It helps to have a goal in
mind, such as making some reminders, or pulling data from certain emails, or
mass-renaming things in Finder, that kind of thing. In other
Could I make one to dconvert files to certain formats if necessary?
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
It's pretty easy, yes. I learned everything from simply googling, starting
with basics of AppleScript and moving on from there. It helps to
Hi all,
I've noticed that, sometimes, my messages get delayed. Sometimes it's only a
few minutes, which is fine, but every so often I'll see a reply I sent appear a
day or three after it should have. For instance, I replied with a message about
Team Viewer when people were asking about an
Yes, though a workflow might be better for that. Check out the Automator app
built into every Mac to create workflows. If you get stuck using it, let us
know; it is easy to use, but only once you know some tricks that are not
apparent going in.
On Jul 5, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Jessica D
In the general settings there is a default calendar pull down.
You can set the date by something like
Status Meeting on July 19 @ 1300
I have not tried putting timezones at the end but that might work.
Best wishes,
Jonathan
On Jul 5, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com
There are certainly graphic conversion commands in Apple Script. You can also
use the save as directive and I believe in most applications there is a type
argument that can be specified. I can look a bit further if you let me know
source and destination and if I have a program that can handle
Hi. I'd be interested in this if anybody can track it down...
Cameron.
On 7/5/14, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
I just went to the audio-quake site, and the mac universal app isn't even
available now.
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
On Jul 5, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Devin Prater
hello:
I seem to have gotten it set up. there is a default calendar which made
my life easier (thanks for that tip). The only hurtle now is that for
whatever reason when I choose a date, it still tries to add for today.
so I have my day view set to jul 18 and the default day on the calendar
I would recommend against disabling this mail box at this time. Apple only
retrieves messages from the All mail box when using GMAIL and then associates
them with a more specific label/folder. There is an option in the GMAIL
settings to limit the number of messages to allow in any folder and
Hi. Can anybody out there recommend vo friendly or otherwise
accessible flight simulators or racing games etc for OSX or iOS?
Thanks,
Cameron.
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I had no real errors when looking at the site. I wonder if somebody is placing
a proxy in your connection. I did find the site to use very old web technology
and it has absolutely no headers.
Best wishes,
Jonathan
On Jul 5, 2014, at 12:28 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com
Would it be accessible to us then? I do not understand what headers are. But I
would like to learn if somebody knows how to explain. Is it the same as a
webpage heading?
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On Jul 5, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net wrote:
I had no real errors when looking
Tandom is an implementation of the VNC protocol. I expect as long as sound is
transferred too, that you might be able to use VNC clients and servers on the
Macintosh to accomplish this. Also, Apple provides Back to my Mac services
that allow at least sighted individuals to control a computer
The site is usable, but instead of using CSS for layout they use tables.
Depending on some settings in VoiceOver you might need to do a bit more
interacting then you would with JAWS. VoiceOver tends to not hide as many
layout tables as the windows screen readers do. You can still get a list of
Hi,
I subscribed to MV-Dev about a month ago, and my request was either
not seen or not approved. Just tried again; is there some sort of
criteria that I must meet?
On 7/5/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
Again, no one can even use Swift right now; you'll need Xcode 6, or at least
a beta
There's not, if you have Cara's address you might want to shoot her an
email off list or nudge her here, as she's the admin.
On 7/5/2014 5:23 PM, Tristan wrote:
Hi,
I subscribed to MV-Dev about a month ago, and my request was either
not seen or not approved. Just tried again; is there some
Hi,
Press VO-shift-back slash, then arrow down once. VO will announce Column,
press return. When in the Column Headers, VO-space on the column you wish
selected in its entirety. Back out of the headers with VO-shift-back-slash and
Stop Interacting with the Table. If you bring focus back to
hi, there is flight gear, it works 100% for mac but the learning curve
is massive, cause of its realism.
If you are serious about trying it out i will happily send some files
and a manual in how too install it , but as i said , it is not like
all these blind games for windows, it is a true
Wait though, is this for VoiceOver? Or does it use some other means of
representing the world that is somehow accessible? I just can't imagine such a
complex, realistic app being made for VO users, but of course I'd be happy to
find out it is. :)
On Jul 5, 2014, at 6:02 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse
I got it to the point where it asked if I wanted to open, and I did, but I keep
receiving a message that it can't be opened. I went into my applications and
downloads folders and deleted the .dmg files, thinking I would redownload, but
my finder and desktop are still saying install adobe flash
Does anyone have experience with a movie making app other than iMovie? I still
have and use the older V9 of iMovie, but the new V10 just sucks (oops! can I
say that about Apple;-). I'm wondering if there's a friendlier, more accessible
app out there that will let me do some rudimentary movie
Hi Alex,
Yeah, I get the same thing. My first thought was just that this was part of
the vetting process for new subscribers, because I've only recently rejoined
here. I don't do this on my Google groups, and as far as I can see all other
GG traffic goes to where it needs to be. But you
Il giorno 06/lug/2014, alle ore 00:02, Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com
ha scritto:
hi, there is flight gear, it works 100% for mac
Hi Sandi.
You said 100% for mac, but what is matter here is if it works 100% or somehow
less, for VoiceOver. Is it so?
Thanks.
Gabriel.
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Apple has Apple Remote Desktop, for which the client and server parts are
already in the operating system, but for which the user interface is exposed
fully by the paid ARD application.
BTMM (Back To My Mac) is a specific method for accessing services on a remote
Mac with the help of Apple's
Does lastFM do what you want?
On Jul 5, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
What's that? I've never heard of it, sounds interesting though.
On Jul 5, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote:
Have any of you tried the Beats streaming
hi, no you don't exactly use it with voiceover, you use speak, the
reason is that speak is faster if you fly a f16 at 800 knots you will
want a speech that is … fast. really fast.
It is not where you guys are yet trust me.
Let me try too explain how it works even it is totally late so please
I feel a little bit guilty for saying this, as I just *know* there's a clear
conflict of interest going on here, but ...
It's obvious that Swift is the language Apple want you to use, and I don't want
to discourage you from that, because it's clearly designed for efficiency and
enjoyment. But
Gmail IMAP is broken to the point that any rational human being would struggle
to understand how its designers created it the way they did. Indeed, as you
discovered, deletion operations take an extraordinarily long time, during which
the messages are still available. Don't worry; eventually
I have one point to make here:
Learning objective c doesn't mean that one inherently knows C. C does
not have ARC for example. Just as learning c++ does not really mean one
knows C.
Swift may be the language they want you to use eventually because it has
a higher-level feel to it, but I
Hi there,
Where do you get the app?
On Jul 5, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com wrote:
hi, no you don't exactly use it with voiceover, you use speak, the
reason is that speak is faster if you fly a f16 at 800 knots you will
want a speech that is ... fast. really fast.
Is this book on swift for beginning programmers though?
Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com
On Jul 5, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
I feel a little bit guilty for saying this, as I just *know* there's a clear
conflict of interest going on here, but ...
It's
I should have been clearer when I said that by learning Objective C one would
inherently know how to program in C, because I really meant to emphasise that
it's C you should learn, but as it happens it's actually the case, because
Objective-C is a proper superset of C, unlike C++. So while you
and what does the task actually called for. Just my two cents worth hope this
helps What you're talking about is not all that scary. You can certainly
Princeton set up an account for somebody to do a specific thing and then of
course delete that account profile demented they're done doing
Alex and Tim,
I am not too concerned about actual security but more about losing
data. But if one also backs up locally, no worries. But another concern
might be inability to retrieve or sync data should one lose Internet
access. But thinking back to a recent loss of my cable connection, I
Sabahattin,
I hear you about Snowden buti how does anyone know just how secure
anything is anymore? I like the idea of being able to sync date with
iCloud but not so sure about keeping data online.
Quote of the nanosecond . . .
The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard.
I beg to differ. Learning objective c -does not- mean that you know c.
As I already said, objective c handles resource allocation and deletion
for you via ARC. c also works differently in a lot of cases where
objective c does not. Sure you don't have classes, but there are other
differences as
Losing data is only a real concern if you lose access to your account; big
companies like Google, Dropbox, Apple, and so on have so many redundancies in
place that data loss on their end is really not a concern over which I lose
sleep. Again, though, losing access to your account is a different
If you've signed up as an Apple developer, go to developer.apple.com and sign
in with your Apple ID. Visit your Member Centre page, and you should find
links to your enrolled programs there. All that is required to begin receiving
seed updates is a one-time change to your Software Update
Hi there,
Yes, but it is not nearly as good. You can use iMessage, and setup a
screenshare with the person's User ID, and you can hear the audio from the
other computer's speakers. It's slow, but it will work.
On Jul 4, 2014, at 6:11 AM, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
For those that
Hi Robert,
If you just want the sync part, there is BitTorrent Sync or SyncThing. These
tools let you replicate changes across computers, in the fashion of Dropbox,
but without a central server. However, dumb clients like iOS devices can't
access the data unless one of your machines is
Objective C is a super set of C. It is the objective component of C. If
someone learns objc, it is a reasonable assumption that they have a lot of C
experience. If they don't' then they are going to have to learn C. You never
just right a program in OBJC. You always have C mixed in with
But again, those are simply features of Objective-C. If you simply don't use
Objective-C features and therefore Objective-C syntax, your program is valid C
source. So if you learn the entire grammar of Objective-C, you also know the
entire grammar of C, no matter how incidental it is to your
Hi,
Is it saying that it can't be opened because it's from an unidentified
developer, or that it can't run the installer because you need to quit some
running Flash app. If it's the former, when you go to open the Install Flash
app, use VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu and choose
Hi Sabahattin,
Regarding your comment about running OS X Server headlessly, I'm wondering what
problems you're experiencing? I run multiple Mavericks servers headlessly
without problems, at least as far as I can tell. Whether using the Server app
from another computer, using the Server app
Hi,
Yeah, I've had it happen to me as well. Made me feel like I was slow on the
uptake. I had answered the question reasonably quick but by the time the
message came back to me, numerous others had responded with the same thing.
Not sure if it's a Google Groups thing either. When I used to
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