Yeah, it's just training fingers that takes a bit of time but I could see how
you could get really fast input with that. I type more than I braille but touch
typing doesn't really lend itself well to tiny devices.
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Oh, ok, yes I was able to make it work similar to what you're describing. You
are right that you do have to play with it a bit. I'll screw around with it
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Use dot position calibration each time you start writing. This sets the dots to
where your fingers are currently tapping the screen. I write everything, even
dictation whilst others are speaking, with braille screen input.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Calibration is a good point, as it might help resolve the problems Chris is
running into. Once you get it down, you likely won't need to do it; I did it a
good amount last year when BSI was new, but I haven't done it at all in months.
I'm on the 5, though, and that's my only input source, so it'
Hello,
I forgot to mention:
I almost always use away mode on the iPhone, and table-top mode on the iPad.
I hold the phone between my thumbs on the side with the mute switch and the
pinkys on the opposite side. Note: beware with the 6 and 6+ not to press
against the power button with the pinky.
Hello,
It took me a couple weeks to figure out braille screen input. I practiced every
day. It is now my primary form of input on my iPhone and my iPad. I usually
write in 6-dot braille on the iPhone 6+ and the iPhone 5S. I write on both
phones equally. I also write in contracted braille using
I've been reading this thread and I'm trying this out but I have large hands
and long fingers and a 5s and I'm not sure how to hold the phone to comfortably
reach the dots. So it's clearly something you have to screw with for more than
30 seconds to get to work but I could see where it could be
I am using a 6S. I've tried explore mode, but even still, it's not really
helping.
Chris.
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From: Alex Hall
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I
I use it constantly. If I'm searching somewhere where each character refines
the search, I don't use it. Just about any other time I need to type, though,
BSI gets used. It is, hands down, the best feature to come to iOS in years,
especially given its support for UEB, something that Mbraille sti
Yes, when I don't have my keyboard, and when my braille display just isn't all
that nice to me, darn battery, I use BSI. Its good for emails, although I hate
to type messages in it, since you can't yet swipe right with two fingers to
send yet, as you can press enter on a keyboard to send now, en
This is one of those things I'd like to explain in person, because it's way,
way easier to show people how this system works when they can feel/see what's
going on. The next best thing, though, is Explore Mode. Put a finger on the
screen while BSI is active, and hold it there for a few seconds.
OK, you all probably can explain this one, as I probably just don't know what
I'm doing.
I've tried with the sensitivity setting both on light, as well as on medium.
So, here's the deal. I opened up the Messages app. In here, I have one
IMessage thread with Michael Babcock, who by the way is
I'm just finding that even though I don't have big hands/fingers, I'm really
having to squish the heck out of my fingers to get things to register correctly.
For instance, I tried typing the word Hello. it's almost like some of the
time, dot 3 wouldn't register, sometimes dot 1 wouldn't registe
Hi,
Thank you for explaining this. I was trying to explain what was going on to
someone the other day, and we never did come to any real conclusion. We thought
it was my phone being crazy. LOL. I was wondering why it wasn’t working right
for me.. Guess this is why. :)
Thanks again for your help
Hello,
When you turn the iPhone away from you, have the home button to the right. VO
will announce home button to the left. This is correct, but the home button
actually is on the right. Now, Away mode is correct. Dots 1 2 and 3 are on the
left side, dots 4 5 6 are on the right side. Note: this
Does cursor tracking work anywhere else on the Mac question that is, is it only
happening in finder? Do you have quick nav on? Have you tried toggling cursor
tracking with VO plus shift plus F three?
Sent from my IPhone
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Christina C. wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> I am s
Stupid question: are you sure you're in Away mode? In Table mode, things are
reversed until you force Away mode by turning the screen toward you, then lay
it flat again, which trips a lot of people up. I've never heard of Away mode
being reversed, though.
My only other thought is that you've lo
I'm not using a braille display or input keyboard. This is specifically on the
braille input rotor setting, which I'm referring to.
When I reach an edit field, and I turn the rotor to braille input, I am using
contracted braille, not 6 dot, by the way. I'm noticing that it's reversed,
when in
Hello,
I am still on latest version of Yosemite. I have had this problem for several
months and it’s driving me bonkers. I have cursor tracking on and I am using
list view in Finder. I cannot get the voiceOver cursor to enter the list of
files. It stays stuck in the column headers. I can kind o
Yeah, after I listenned to Jonathan's demo on pick and pop, I saw that about
not needing to double tap. That probably explains why sometimes it's not been
the most reliable.
Chris.
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Chris,
You don’t need to double tap and hold, you just need to press on the screen.
Peak and pop are meant for things like emails, messages, it works in some
twitter apps like Tweetings, things like that.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
> wrote:
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> Guys,
>
> Just to
Guys,
Just today, I got me the new IPhone 6S. I am freaking loving this thing!
I do have a question regarding pick and pop. I'm seeing that a lot of the
native IPhone apps support this from the home screen. I'm not sure while
inside an app what abilities I have, I.E, in Safari, if I try doub
I'm glad you like your Echo. I know that Amazon music was reasonably sort of
accessible with iOS when I played with it but there was no way I found to get
the tunes to OS X since the app for OS X was completely inaccessible when I
tried it a bit ago. So I'm not sure how you'd get your library im
Thanks for the encouragement. You're right it does get old. I'd rather fix them
myself as I never feel good about nagging people about the same stuff. Yeah, I
know it's a psychological thing, but I always feel like I'm just bitching
rather than helping something get fixed. Their form letter in
Hi all,
Thanks for all the information over the last few days on Apple's braille
support woes. It looks like the primary problems right now are lack of
formatting indicators/input, no independent braille cursor, flaky display
connections, the rotor problem, the way the VO cursor is indicated, an
Hi guys:
I just received an Amazon Echo for my birthday. It is totally awesome BTW. My
question is I also just discovered Amazon Prime music. Is that accessible on
iOS and Safari? Can I import my iTUnes library to Amazon Prime to play on my
Echo?
Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDB
I have used a standard braille display with my iPhone. Try the iOS braille
commands. For rotor, try dots 2 3 space, or dots 5 6 space to change rotor
setting, whilst dot 3 space and dot 6 space is same as vertical flick with one
finger (if memory serves, I prefer to use gestures on the touchscre
Hey, just saw this after posting through the native FB web page which I was
able to do. Apple really needs to fix this and hopefully we are all emailing it
in. Thanks for all the tips.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Tim Emmons wrote:
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> You’re so welcome, glad I could help. I was glad to see th
You’re so welcome, glad I could help. I was glad to see the workaround come
across yesterday. I was pulling my hair out too until then. Lol. Take care.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Pablo Sandoval wrote:
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> Good instructions, that works.
> Thanks.
>
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Tim Emmons
Good instructions, that works.
Thanks.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Tim Emmons wrote:
>
> Once you get your post finished, do the control tab method, get to post, and
> turn quick nav off. Then, hit the space bar and it posts as normal. That’s
> the only way I got it working consistently. G
Once you get your post finished, do the control tab method, get to post, and
turn quick nav off. Then, hit the space bar and it posts as normal. That’s the
only way I got it working consistently. Give that a shot and hopefully that
will help. Take care.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Pablo Sando
The only way I can post to FB or Twitter using Notification Center is to
1. compose the message you wish to post.
2. Exit Notification Center.
3. Reopen Notification Center.
4. interact with the Widget area and again the Social Media widget.
5. Now VO + right arrow until you find the edit field wi
Hi,
Yes this is a bug. I need to report thias now that you mention it. I wonder I
this is only is in third party apps or a general table view problem.
Matthew
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 10/8/2015 6:15 AM, Scott Davert wrote:
Hi all.
I'm playing a
YES, IOS DEVICES CAN DO A LOT, but EVEN WITH A BLUETOOTH KEYBOARD ATTACHED,
THERE AREN'T A LOT of APPS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE of the keyboard. One good app
that does, though, is MudRammer. But besides that, only the built in apps take
advantage of the keyboard and possible commands. Document write
Dropping the quad-core mini, making the newest models slower than the
old ones, was a misstep by Apple. I can only assume this was to prevent
cannibalization of their other lines by a fast, cheaper, lower-margin
box. Rather poor showing and goes against Apple's tradition of
cannibalizing it's o
And one thing to add, if you’re a braille user the IOS devices are better with
braille than the Mac unfortunately.
Other wise great points.
I’m upset that there are no user serviceable parts inside any more. I upgraded
my Macbook 2012 with 3rd party memory and SSD and it made a huge difference
I'd also add that, as with most places in OS X, option-up or option-down will
move to the top or bottom of the table. You may need to stop interacting first,
but after that those commands will work. They are less keystrokes than the VO
commands, but they only work in tables; the VO commands work
Hi,
In El Capitan, the VoiceOver command to jump to the top has changed. It no
longer uses the shift key. So VO+home now takes you to the top and VO+end takes
you to the bottom. If you add the shift, you are taken to the first and last
visible item.
Robert Carter
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:36 AM
Not sure if this is a new bug, but I’ve also noticed that it seems to be
impossible to jump to the top of the table with voiceover command, options shit
left arrow. Can anyone confirm this?
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:21 AM, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:
>
> thanks Ricardo,
>
> I interacted with the tab
Hi all.
I'm playing around with the ability in the Smart Beetle to emulate a
bluetooth keyboard. Wow, what a complicated set of commands, and what
an inconsistent performance of such commands. I'm running iOS 9.0.2,
and was able to pair the bluetooth keyboard emulation and the
bluetooth pairing for
Just as an aside, not interacting normally works. In Mail, you don't need to
interact with the messages or mailboxes tables; in Finder, you will be able to
browse folder/file lists without interacting, same for the sidebar; in
Messages, you can arrow through the conversations table without inter
At the risk of being completely useless, more is always better where specs are
concerned. Apple give you a great experience with Mac, but alas, they charge
overly for upgrades, and you only get to make those purchases one time, when
you buy your machine. This is, of course, no coincidence. Be
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