Re: remotely controlling a mac

2016-06-26 Thread Angus MacKinnon
Michael I use teamViewer with a friend that lives about an hour drive and phones me with FaceTime. My friend does lots of very complicated to easy work. I just launched screen sharing and my friend quit FaceTime since Screen Sharing has Audio. I have a very sick Mac, so my friend had to do

Re: remotely controlling a mac

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Michael, you didn’t mention I don’t think the distance you want to cover.  Would a Bluetooth keyboard or wireless keyboard do the trick?  You can hear VO and work things wirelessly.  Or is that not suitable? From: on behalf of Michael Babcock

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Afraid to say E.T. but we’ve had computers for as long as humans have been on the earth. (regardless of whether little green or grey men helped or not) Whether it’s sun dials, the abacus, slide rule, the protractor, and on an on we’ve had computing devices since the psychedelic mushrooms on

Re: new iPhone

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Absolutely agreed, unlocked should mean unlocked to the network. It shouldn’t mean you’re sort of unlocked, you need to have a SIM but otherwise you can use the radio and phone as you want. That’s again weak sauce ™. If it’s just a connection issue as someone mentioned then why can’t a

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
As always, great response, not sure I agree with it all but well done and probably better presented than my arguments. I do wonder about the privacy area. I know you generally have a very good beed on the security side and privacy side. I’m interested that you still would be attracted to and

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
I’m going to try Android again but my experiences did not mirror yours.  I ended up taking my Galaxy S5 to the local rod and gun club and blasting it with a Remington Autoloader 308 and damn it felt good!  That phone dropped my call do to an unscheduled reboot during an interview one to many

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
At the risk of dating my self here, I remember when 8.25 inch floppies were the standard and 64 megabytes, wow I remember when 64K was a big deal. (kilobytes) I paid like 500 dollars for a 64K upgrade card to give me a whopping 128K of memory, that I could only access in 64K blocks at a time

Re: Netflix

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Not to mention they have made me a lot of money in the market. Go Mr. Haystings.:) Seriously though, love netflix. Use it on the same selection devices that others have mentioned here with Apple TV being my favorite. On 6/26/16, 8:06 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"

Re: Not all e-mail showing when I open a conversation.

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Yes, press enter and then close the window and continue on when done. From: on behalf of Kawal Gucukoglu Reply-To: Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 2:46 PM To: Macvisionaries

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Good point, interoperability is key. IF it only works on Apple that’s not nearly as good as a standard interface. I buy that argument. That’s something the standards folks should be able to work out though. Funny thing I was just thinking is I wonder if Apple will make the same

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
A-men brother! I completely agree with you especially on the mediocre state of audio. I woke up to this in a horrible way not that long ago and posted something to the list about it. I tried to listen to some classical music recently, a piano performance by Andre Watts and oh my God the

Re: Netflix

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Donna, I’ve been thinking of doing the same thing but can’t quite get my head around not having channels to turn to. I’m still a product of the old television way of doing things. How about news or other live broadcasting? Do you miss it? Do you still get it in other ways? How about

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Arnold, itunes on the Mac is far better.  It never required scripts like the old days of Windows and itunes and jfw, the interface matches everything else on the mac so once you learn one application you can move cleanly in to another and yes, the interaction with the iphone is better.  You

Re: Voiceover Crashing My Mac

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
So I’m running the public beta to be clear but I did run that version with no problems.  I get an occasional voice over reset but not a reboot.  Before you downgrade I would highly suggest installing a clean copy of the latest OS.  When you upgrade you frequently get issues that a clean install

Re: remotely controlling a mac

2016-06-26 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I believe that a few members on this list have used some third party remote apps with varying success. Basically though, the Screen Sharing and other similar services on your Mac will not pass through the VO sounds, so you are limited in what's possible. Not impossible, but quite

remotely controlling a mac

2016-06-26 Thread Michael Babcock
is this possible? I would like to control the mac from across the room, especially to change system preferences and parental control. I can see how to view the screen but can’t figure out how as a voiceover user i can in fact control the mac? thanks for any ideas. *** Michael Babcock Consulting

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Christopher Gilland
I completely agree with these assessments 100%. let me start by saying this: the Mac is not for everyone. oh boy do I hear people on this list complaining to me now! as an assistant technology instructor, I have to say the honest truth however. And the honest truth is, some people may do

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
It’s funny David, I just walked away from a job offer because it was in a windows shop.  I’m personally not willing to compromise my self and my work quality to run with in a windows environment.  Especially when there’s such good interoperation between Mac and windows environments.  I wish you

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Arnold, everything is better about the Mac from speed to security to performance to ease of use, everything is 100% better.  Starting at the top. First, voice over is much better.  Unlike windows you have access to the entire life cycle from initial setup to reinstall to upgrade to deep

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
My primary reason for still using the Mac at this point is the frustration-free robustness of the OS and screen reader (if you’re on the right release, anyway). You really do get a lot in the package, especially if you also have iOS, but system-wide spell-check is still one of my favourite

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Devin Prater
Well, instead of interaction, try just moving around with tab, shift-tab, and arrow keys first. It works better than you might think. Second, I love the accessibility, and the system-wide spell checking and dictionary functions. Sent from my Mac. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com > On Jun 26,

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Arnold Schmidt
To be fair to Jaws, it is only $60 a year if you keep up the SMA. The professional version is more, I think about $90 a year. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Why

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I have been curious about the Mac for quite a while. About a month after buying this Vista computer in 2008, I listened to Mike Are ego's excellent series of podcasts on BlindCoolTech about the Mac. If I had listened to them before buying this computer, I would have bought a Mac then.

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread David Chittenden
I switched from Windows to Mac at the end of 2011. Voiceover is updated every time Apple updates the Mac's OS, just like the iPhone. The touchpad commander gives me more usability than touchscreens on Windows. That said, I do not know how accessible Jaws is with Windows 10 touchscreen. I am

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
Honestly, I think the Mac is far better than Windows. First, it’s really not that complicated once you get used to it. Have you tried the item chooser? That might help you navigate more easily. Just press control-option-I. Navigate to the item you want, or type in the first few letters of the

Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Hank, What are the things that you want to do with your mat? What prompted you to purchase the Mac in the first place? What are you dissatisfied with regarding windows? I think all of those things which depend on you are the real questions that need answering regarding whether a Mac is a

Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows?

2016-06-26 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want to read it. I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have the two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan And Voice Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The

Re: Netflix

2016-06-26 Thread ben J. Bloomgren
Brandon, One other thing that I really like about Netflix is that their staff is all US based. At least as far as I can tell, they don't outsource I thing. I have never called and got an accent unless it be a southerner or whatever. Ben > On Jun 26, 2016, at 15:20, Brandon A. Olivares

Re: Netflix

2016-06-26 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Brandon, My husband and I ditched our cable last fall. We now watch either Netflix, or content that we own. Netflix works great, both with our Apple TV and on my iPhone. Cheers, Donna > On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Brandon A. Olivares > wrote: > > Hey everyone,

Re: Netflix

2016-06-26 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I use NetFlix all the time on my IPhone, IPad, Nexus 6, mac, and Windows machines. Also, I use it all the freaking time on my Apple TV 4. I can simply say that it's probably one of the best experiences for watching movies/TV shows that I've found. Further, the times I've called and spoke to

Re: Netflix

2016-06-26 Thread Michael Babcock
Netflix works awesome on the phone, the computer for what I've seen it works fairly well, but I primarily use it on the phone. If you have an Apple TV, it also works Super Bowl not both third and fourth generations. The final feature of Netflix that I think may be beneficial to other blind

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Terje Strømberg
Yeha, if there is an headphone 3.5 mm hole in there, does not mean you can’t use the lightning port instead for headphones or what ever. But if it is gone it is gone Take care > 26. jun. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev Scott Granados : > > Ok two points here, very sad day that

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread E.T.
Cait, Better than any of that is uhm, the time before computers! From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/26/2016 3:42 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: Exactly!! things change over time. does anybody remember 8 track tapes, or even just plain old

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi John, Agreed! Change is coming whether anybody likes it or not, so find what works for you and keep moving! Talk soon Chuck On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:48 PM, John Panarese wrote: >Honestly, this is the same old same old nonsense that comes around with > every technology change. At this

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread John Panarese
Honestly, this is the same old same old nonsense that comes around with every technology change. At this point in my life, I wish I had a dime for every change and alteration in technology that people wined and complained and raged against, including myself. Whatever happens, happens. A year

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Exactly!! things change over time. does anybody remember 8 track tapes, or even just plain old cassettes?? How about those huge 5 and a half inch floppy disks? How about when all the memory you could get was something like 64 megs, and there really wasn’t any portable storage?? yep,

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread E.T.
Some members here may not go back far enough to the days of the many choices we had for headphones. Wired, wired, wired, wired, and wired. (smiles) I really do not get this concern over a possible change in hardware that no one has laid eyes on. But if it is true, its as good as carved

Netflix

2016-06-26 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
Hey everyone, I am thinking of canceling cable, because we just don’t use it much. We just got Hulu, and that is working awesome. What I want to know is, does Netflix work well, either on the computer or on the iPhone? Thanks, Brandon -- The following information is important for all

Re: Adobe Flash player and Mac

2016-06-26 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi Jeanine, As far as I know, yes, you can install flash on your mac. However, it’s not accessible. Hope you find a way to deal with the course.. Cait > On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote: > > All, > > I > m trying to complete an on-line course

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread erik burggraaf
All this makes me very glad I'm an android user. Whether the demize of the 3.5 mm jack turns out to be a good thing long term or not, I myself am not ready to take that step. I can't even really go for bluetooth headphones which I'd really like to do because I need wired headphones for so

Re: Voiceover Crashing My Mac

2016-06-26 Thread -
On one of the mac blindness mailing lists someone sent as message subject such a string as a malicious prank. Until it was purged from the list the solution was to use another voice, it was an alex centric problem. It consisted of letter paris repeated over and over again. That might

Re: Adobe Reader DC

2016-06-26 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, If all one is doing is reading the pdf, then there's Preview already on your Mac that will read pdf's just fine. It doesn't handle columns as well as PDFPenPro but for does a pretty good job on most. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 26, 2016, at 12:58, Arnold Schmidt

Re: Adobe Flash player and Mac

2016-06-26 Thread Jenine Stanley
Well, sadly, this won’t help me as nothing will move, play or otherwise happen on this particular web page. I may try it on Chrome and see what happens. Thanks everyone for your input. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com > On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Jeffrey Shockley

Re: Adobe Flash player and Mac

2016-06-26 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
Hello, Yes, Flash content will play. By Interact, I mean that VoiceOver will not see the buttons and stuff within Flash content like Windows screen readers do because the accessibility information is not presented to Mac like it is on Windows. It’s Adobe’s fault. However, lots of things are

Re: Adobe Reader DC

2016-06-26 Thread Chris Meredith
Ah—I can pretty much guarantee that the file won’t be properly labelled. I was actually using the form SS-5 as a “known case”, where I knew things should work as expected. The form I need to fill out is something for my 401(k) plan, where the PDFs may not be adequately labeled. If it makes a

Re: Adobe Flash player and Mac

2016-06-26 Thread Arnold Schmidt
If I install it, will it generally play the content? If you mean that VoiceOver won't interact with it, I hope you mean that it is as it is in windows, when using a screen reader, in that there are a lot of buttons and controls that can't be accessed, but the material will play, most of the

Re: Adobe Reader DC

2016-06-26 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Or, if you have an iPhone, , forward it to your iPhone and use Voice Dream Reader to read it. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Chris Meredith To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Adobe Reader DC Yes. I even tried

Re: Adobe Reader DC

2016-06-26 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I use PDFPenPro to fill out forms quite a bit. Try pressing tab to go through the document and see how it goes. Of course, it totally depends on how good the creator of the fillable pdf did at labelling. Most pdf making people don't bother taking the time to label the fields and such,

Re: Adobe Reader DC

2016-06-26 Thread Chris Meredith
Half a sec. Can you fill out forms with PDF Pen? I tried downloading a form from the Social Security Administration and PDF Pen failed to recognize the fields. Or, more correctly, VoiceOver failed to recognize that PDF Pen recognized the fields. > On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:03 PM, christopher

Re: Adobe Reader DC

2016-06-26 Thread christopher hallsworth
That’s not a showstopper for me. I simply select all the text in the PDF, copy, and paste into a blank Textedit document. Doesn’t work? Then it’s PDFPen to the rescue which, amongst other things, has the ability to OCR those dreaded scanned documents into readable text. > On 26 Jun 2016, at

Re: Anyone know about Medicat?

2016-06-26 Thread Brett C.
Thank you Nancy. I’ll be messing with it over the next month, I’ll definitely take you up on your offer to most likely confirm my findings. Best, Brett > On Jun 26, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Nancy Badger wrote: > > Believe it or not I know about it. Our counseling center

Re: Anyone know about Medicat?

2016-06-26 Thread Nancy Badger
Believe it or not I know about it. Our counseling center tried to use it for a couple of years. It was never accessible. They claimed that it was, but it was not. I tried to use it on a Windows computer. They said it would not work at all on Max. If I can answer any more specific questions feel

Re: Adobe Reader DC

2016-06-26 Thread Chris Meredith
Yes. I even tried setting a hotspot on the PDF’s contents, which then registered as inactive if I moved the VoiceOver focus outside the PDF content. As someone who’s worked in software QA for years now, I can honestly say that Adobe should be full of shame for letting that problem get past

Re: Voiceover Crashing My Mac

2016-06-26 Thread Marshall Scott
Hi, It sounds like you have found a string that crashes Voiceover. Try using another voice to see if this solves the problem. If the crashing stops, go back to Alex and advance through the strings one at a time until you reach the problem string and then change the string to something else

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I’m not against progress, but I’m still for a standard connector if we’re going to replace the 3.5 mm jack. Same goal, different direction. Apple proprietary for something so fundamental as headphones is user-hostile and stupid, but not if we can move as one to an unfragmented, new market of

Re: Adobe Flash player and Mac

2016-06-26 Thread Kevin Chao
Chrome has flash built-inn, so you may have better luck. On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 6:37 AM Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > Hello, > You can get Flash Player for Mac by typing in get.adobe.com/flashplayer > in Safari. > While it can be installed, VoiceOver can’t interact with Flash

Re: Adobe Flash player and Mac

2016-06-26 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
Hello, You can get Flash Player for Mac by typing in get.adobe.com/flashplayer in Safari. While it can be installed, VoiceOver can’t interact with Flash content sadly. Hope this helps, Jeffrey > On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote: > > All, > > I > m

Adobe Flash player and Mac

2016-06-26 Thread Jenine Stanley
All, I m trying to complete an on-line course that says I must have Adobe Flash player installed and working. I’m using an iMac 2014 running El Cap. I can’t get past this point in the course without being able to use Flash. Other parts of the course are totally inaccessible but this flash

Re: Not all e-mail showing when I open a conversation.

2016-06-26 Thread Ray Foret jr
Easy as can be. When you are ready to send a message, just press CMD+shift+d. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! > On Jun 26,

Re: Not all e-mail showing when I open a conversation.

2016-06-26 Thread Saqib Hussain
Hi. I do VO J to jump to the message body and the same to move back into the message thread but I don’t know how to send a message without going to the toolbar so does anyone know how what the command is to send a message once it is ready to be sent? > On 25 Jun 2016, at 19:24, Kawal Gucukoglu

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Scott, I’m with you hear, with the exception of the point about DRM, all the other points felt trivial to me. He talked about having different spec cords. Not for nothing, people who own Apple products been dealing with that since the first iPod came out using a firewire connection. lol.

Re: Converting songs to mp3 with latest iTunes and ElCap.issue with apple music store

2016-06-26 Thread Saqib Hussain
Hi. May be that aren’t signed up to Apple Music because not all artists use all streaming services as a platform to reach their listeners! There are albums that I can’t find on Apple Music and they are available on Googleplay Music. > On 24 Jun 2016, at 22:39, Simon Fogarty

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! For me it doesn’t mean anything. I am not worrid at all what ever happens. We are not there yet and when we are then i have to deal with things as they are. One thing though is that i don’t want to drag around more equipment just because it will give me better quality of the audio. I want my

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Sabahattin, I really like your style.:) I’m glad you inject humor along with your well crafted points. Even when I don’t agree with them I love reading them and in general we probably agree much more than not. It’s fun to read your responses! On 6/26/16, 6:29 AM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu"

Re: new iPhone

2016-06-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I think AppleSIM is presently a dual-use option on iPad only at the moment. It’s a nice idea and apparently does help in certain cases where the alternative is full-on international roaming charges (but still not quite as cost-effective as buying local, obviously). But really, yeah, it’s just

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
So wait, let me see if I get your point. You want the powers to give in, include a head phone jack, you like the article and you’re happy you have Bose bt headphones? Did you read the article? ☺ The poster wasn’t exactly supporting the Bluetooth position there. I’m not trying to be snarky

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Ok two points here, very sad day that you have to edit another publication to make it available here. And btw, you missed a word that will almost certainly get the moderators panties twisted in to a neat little bunch.:) Even though that word is totally acceptable on your BBC btw. That being

Re: new iPhone

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Depends on the device but yes my experience is that Android does not need a SIM present for initial setup. I can’t speak to all devices though there are so many. I have see this on the Samsung S5 specifically. Isn’t apple working on or recently just patented a software based SIM option

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Here’s a followup. It’s a rebuke to Daring Fireball’s typically “it’ll all be fine; it’s just the new floppy drive, Apple knows (and does) best” piece (linked to and referred to in the article):

Re: new iPhone

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Wow, I did not know about this limitation. This in my opinion is weak sauce (tm). Shouldn’t matter what carrier if any is installed. I’ve got a pile of T-Mobile sims that will fit if the original poster needs one. On 6/25/16, 3:20 PM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu"

Re: new iPhone

2016-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
That is not a stupid question, the only stupid questions are the ones left unasked. Especially on a list like this do not ever feel ashamed or uneasy about asking a related question, we’re here to help. Anyone who picks on someone inexperienced asking well formed questions like this is a

RE: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

2016-06-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Mark, Thanks for this, I't has a good ring to it. He's got a lot of points that make good sense, but will the powers listen to us? Glad my bose bt headphones work great. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

RE: new iPhone

2016-06-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
No, you have to insert a sim, even a blank one will work it's just to make the connection it doesn't need to be live -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gabe Griffith Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2016 6:49 AM To: