Re: Material for learning the mac

2021-12-07 Thread Many of us
what is bits? How do I subscribe? shirley - Original Message - From: Rebecca Skipper To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 7:53 AM Subject: RE: Material for learning the mac Hope you got the Word file I sent. If you are subscribed to BITS

RE: Material for learning the mac

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
Hope you got the Word file I sent. If you are subscribed to BITS there is a Mac by the BITS monthly tutorial. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Many of us Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 2:50 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Material for learning

Re: Material for learning the mac

2021-12-07 Thread Many of us
Thanks Rebecca! This is all really helpful info! shirley - Original Message - From: Rebecca Skipper To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:38 AM Subject: RE: Material for learning the mac Hi, National Braille Press has a book about the

Re: Material for learning the mac

2021-12-07 Thread Many of us
Cool. Thanks, I'll check it out! shirley - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:44 AM Subject: RE: Material for learning the mac I would add that John's truly wonderful mac for the blind website has voiceover user guides in text format

RE: Material for learning the mac

2021-12-07 Thread Karen Lewellen
I would add that John's truly wonderful mac for the blind website has voiceover user guides in text format based on os edition, along with loads of tips tricks and other training tools, most? free of charge. Kare On Wed, 8 Dec 2021, Rebecca Skipper wrote: Hi, National Braille Press has a

RE: Material for learning the mac

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
Hi, National Braille Press has a book about the Mac that can be ordered in MSWord . https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS-2021.html You could try copying some user guides to Word on Applevis’s site. It has a lot of useful information on getting started with the Mac.

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
Thanks. I didn’t know this was the same command on both operating systems. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Muhammad Fayed Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 12:50 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows Hi

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Muhammad Fayed
Hi Rebecca, Regarding Sticky keys, it is a feature you find on both Mac and Windows by pressing shift key 5 times in a row. It is useful for example in case you want to use a single hand to do a difficult keystrokes. If you press whatever modifier key (ctrl, shift, option or alt, or command,

Re: Moving YouTube Slider?

2021-12-07 Thread Herbie Allen
You should be able to VO right passed the slider. > On Dec 7, 2021, at 22:01, Fazil M. wrote: > > Jumping youtube video in time. > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Herbie Allen > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 7:54 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject:

RE: Moving YouTube Slider?

2021-12-07 Thread Fazil M.
Jumping youtube video in time. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Herbie Allen Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 7:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Moving YouTube Slider? What do you mean by the Youtube slider? On Dec 7, 2021, at 19:32, Fazil M.

Re: Moving YouTube Slider?

2021-12-07 Thread Herbie Allen
What do you mean by the Youtube slider? > On Dec 7, 2021, at 19:32, Fazil M. wrote: > > Hi, Group. > How can I move Youtube slider, please? > Thanks! > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns

Material for learning the mac

2021-12-07 Thread Many of us
Has anyone got any material in text or word format on using and learning to use a mac? I'd really appreciate it if you could email me a copy at manyofus1...@gmail.com thanks! shirley -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any

Moving YouTube Slider?

2021-12-07 Thread Fazil M.
Hi, Group. How can I move Youtube slider, please? Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
Thanks. I was referring to the VO lock keys, but again, I’m getting Windows and Mac terminology confused. It is nice though to have so many customizations. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:56 PM To:

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Dave Carlson
Rebecca, I know what you’re talking about being able to lock the VO keys. But that’s not actually what sticky keys are. Sticky keys or away for a key press to be held electronically down longer to allow you to move your finger to another place and make a combination keystroke without having to

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
I used the wrong terminology. I should have referred to this as locking Voiceover Keys. I’m still new to the Mac and use Windows as my primary device for now. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of joseph hudson Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:50 PM To:

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
Okay, thanks. Still a handy feature to have. I think I am getting Windows and Mac terminology confused. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Brad Snyder Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread joseph hudson
Rebekah, like you I like using the sticky keys. It is definitely very easy. > On Dec 7, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Rebecca Skipper wrote: > > Thanks. > It is my understanding that there are less keys to press if you use the > sticky keys option on the Mac. > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Brad Snyder
Locking the VO modifier using VO + semi-colon, is not a Sticky Key function. - Brad - On Dec 7, 2021, at 16:15, Rebecca Skipper wrote: If I understand correctly, you can lock the VO keys with capslock +semicolon. This reduces the number of keystrokes you need which could be handy for anyone

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
Thanks. Yes, but I think it is important to point out that the Mac has a lot more customizations than Windows which surprises me. Hopefully, more apps will be supported on the M1. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:39 PM To:

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, No worries. I hope that this discussion is helping to clarify. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Dec 7, 2021, at 15:37, Rebecca Skipper wrote: > > Sorry, I’m new

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
Sorry, I’m new to the Mac and am getting the terms confused. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows Hi, That is correct, although that is a different

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, That is correct, although that is a different feature than Sticky Keys. VO does have the key lock as you’ve mentioned as well as single key navigation on the web. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
If I understand correctly, you can lock the VO keys with capslock +semicolon. This reduces the number of keystrokes you need which could be handy for anyone who has problems with those multi finger commands. To be fair you can have the same problem on a Windows Laptop if you can’t configure

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
I understand that the operating systems are different, but I always try to look for similarities to make the learning curve a little easier. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Brad Snyder Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject:

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Brad Snyder
Not really. The use of Sticky Keys is intended for individuals with dexterity issues. - Brad - On Dec 7, 2021, at 14:07, Rebecca Skipper wrote: Thanks. It is my understanding that there are less keys to press if you use the sticky keys option on the Mac. From:

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Brad Snyder
There are some similarities in the keyboard commands, but the operating systems are very different. - Brad - On Dec 7, 2021, at 13:39, Rebecca Skipper wrote: The keyboard shortcuts are similar though, right? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Too many interactions is a matter of opinion, and a misconception from my prospective. Using the interaction model can often make your navigation much quicker than without if you use it properly. Think of it like looking for your friend’s kitchen in a town. When the interaction model is

Google Drive

2021-12-07 Thread Lorie McCloud
I'm trying to set permissions on Google Drive so that anyone I send a link to can view the file. that option doesn't seem to be available or at least I can't find it. I'd prefer not to have to give each individual permission to view it. how should I handle this for best results? thanks. Lorie

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
Thanks. It is my understanding that there are less keys to press if you use the sticky keys option on the Mac. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Muhammad Fayed Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Muhammad Fayed
The differences are summarized in two main points from my experience: • on Mac, you require too many interactions, which I hope they make it less required or add an optional mode to be similar to that of iPhone and iPad, but remains for the application of focus. • There are more buttons on

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
The keyboard shortcuts are similar though, right? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Brad Snyder Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows Actually, the operating environment Onamac

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Brad Snyder
Actually, the operating environment Onamac is completely different from the operating environment on an iPad. With or without a touchscreen, the Mac is a completely different experience than an iPad. - Brad - On Dec 7, 2021, at 13:14, Rebecca Skipper wrote:  If Apple added touch screens to

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Muhammad Fayed
Yeah. I know that. It is like having a touch screen in the window of an application of focus. I like it because it delivers experience of using landscape iPhone in addition to capabilities of keyboard of Mac. Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed > On 7 Dec 2021, at 9:01 PM, Brad Snyder wrote: > >

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
If Apple added touch screens to Macs, there would be no point in having an iPad. JAWS is a keyboard first option. I’ve never found touch screens to be very efficient outside IOS. From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:10 PM To:

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
On 7/12/21 13:44, Rebecca Skipper wrote: The only thing Windows users can do is simulate mouse clicks with the keyboard or physically use the mouse. I think JAWS will recognize mouse movements, but this is no where near the Mac’s trackpad commander. There is also touch support available

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Brad Snyder
Also, the Max trackpad commander is not a utility for moving the mouse arrow around the screen. Its function is something completely different altogether. - Brad - On Dec 7, 2021, at 12:58, Brad Snyder wrote: I find it interesting that most JAWS users have no idea that the JAWS cursor is

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Brad Snyder
I find it interesting that most JAWS users have no idea that the JAWS cursor is the mouse cursor. - Brad - On Dec 7, 2021, at 12:44, Rebecca Skipper wrote:  The only thing Windows users can do is simulate mouse clicks with the keyboard or physically use the mouse. I think JAWS will

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Muhammad Fayed
Ok, I thought the problem was with me that I was not able to find something like that! I like it too much personally and it is very convenient to assign many commands to it and use it, especially when I’m not working. It’s fun and changing the way of interaction with my MBP is somewhat to

RE: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Rebecca Skipper
The only thing Windows users can do is simulate mouse clicks with the keyboard or physically use the mouse. I think JAWS will recognize mouse movements, but this is no where near the Mac’s trackpad commander. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 1:41 PM

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Me neither. In fact, I attended Sight Tech Global last week, and heard Windows screen reader users lamenting about not really having a concept of how mouse navigation behaved. VoiceOver has had that from the start. Now, TrackPad Commander wasn’t there from the start, but mouse and

Re: Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Brad Snyder
I'm not aware of any such thing. - Brad - On Dec 7, 2021, at 12:26, Muhammad Fayed wrote: Hi, Hope my mail finds you well, I. Wonder whether there is a feature on windows similar to trackpad commander on Mac OS. It doesn’t matter whether it works with JAWS or NVDA. Thank you so much,

Equivalent to Trackpad Commander on windows

2021-12-07 Thread Muhammad Fayed
Hi, Hope my mail finds you well, I. Wonder whether there is a feature on windows similar to trackpad commander on Mac OS. It doesn’t matter whether it works with JAWS or NVDA. Thank you so much, Regards, Mohamed E. Fayed -- The following information is important for all members of the

Re: disabling voice over commands with particular applications

2021-12-07 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, In addition to Jonathan’s advice, there is also the “Ignore Next Keypress” command in VoiceOver. It’s VO-tab. This will tell VO to ignore the next keypress allowing you to use other app shortcuts. I use this in Google Docs/Sheets/Slides occasionally. It’s an extra keypress, but an

Re: test

2021-12-07 Thread Herbie Allen
Yes > On Dec 6, 2021, at 20:27, Gerry Cook wrote: > > Hi am i getting through to the list, not sure just, that i haven’t posted > here for quite a wile. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or

Fwd: disabling voice over commands with particular applications

2021-12-07 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I switched VoiceOver to only use the capslock key as a modifier. As far as I know, this creates no conflicts with other programs. This can be changed in the general area of VoiceOver utility. There is one VO command that will still use control-option when you do this that is for turning off Numpad