Re: spell check primer

2014-03-29 Thread Jenine Stanley
. If there's more than one suggestion, right arrow, which is totally counterintuitive to what you do in Windows spell check. When you find the suggestion you want, hit enter. Hope that helps. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 29, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn

Re: spell check primer

2014-03-29 Thread Jenine Stanley
O, Alex, I like this method even better as I don't have to turn off Quick Nav. Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 29, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: The other way to do this is longer, but you should know it just in case. Put your cursor

database app for Mac

2014-03-26 Thread Jenine Stanley
a record. If there is such a feature in Numbers, that would be even better than a separate database program as I'm not doing major database type things, just moving and editing records. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed

stopping programs from launching at start

2014-03-22 Thread Jenine Stanley
Not sure how this happened but I now have several programs, Amadeus, Pages and Prismo in particular, launching at start. I do not want these programs to do so. How do I stop them? Thanks! Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: stopping programs from launching at start

2014-03-22 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks so much. I figured it could be found in some preferences screen somewhere. :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 22, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: 1. Opne System Preferences, choose users and groups, and find your account in the table. 2. Click

Re: stopping programs from launching at start

2014-03-22 Thread Jenine Stanley
how helpful this list can be. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 22, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: 1. Opne System Preferences, choose users and groups, and find your account in the table. 2. Click the login times tab and go to the table of applications 3

Re: stopping programs from launching at start

2014-03-22 Thread Jenine Stanley
I did close the app with command-q. that worked. Not sure why it didn’t earlier but it certainly did this time around. Restarting the computer shows only the two apps running that are supposed to be running. Happy Day! Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:31 AM

playing a video on Facebook

2014-03-21 Thread Jenine Stanley
How do you play a video in someone;s status on Facebook? I see a play video bit of text but no button and hitting enter, interacting with the text, ext. did nothing. Suggestions? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

tagging people in Facebook

2014-03-16 Thread Jenine Stanley
? :) Using Safari and Mavericks on the FB Mobile site. Otherwise I love the interaction, Thanks! Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: tagging people in Facebook

2014-03-16 Thread Jenine Stanley
Oh, that would probably help if I had the right symbol. :) I'll try it. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Jim Portillo portillo@gmail.com wrote: I think it's actually the @ symbol, not the # symbol. Try that first. -Original Message- From

braille production on the Mac

2014-03-15 Thread Jenine Stanley
What software do folks use for braille production on the Mac? I'd like something that interfaces with say, Pages, rather than a stand alone program but I'll entertain anything. I use an Embraille braille printer. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because

Re: braille production on the Mac

2014-03-15 Thread Jenine Stanley
That would be dandy if it will interface with Pages. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 15, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote: I hear Duxbury is coming to the mac. Regards Chris Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! On 15/03

Re: braille production on the Mac

2014-03-15 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks Eric. I'll look into this. From your comment I have to ask, is it difficult to install? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 15, 2014, at 6:34 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Brailleblaster if you can get it installed. It has quite the jump on duxbury

Re: braille production on the Mac

2014-03-15 Thread Jenine Stanley
I see there's a public beta coming out in april. Since it's being developed by the same people from whom I bought the braille printer, I'm game for helping where I can and will contact them. thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 15, 2014, at 7:02 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik

Prismo for Mac

2014-03-14 Thread Jenine Stanley
Is anyone using the Prismo app for the Mac? I got my scanner hooked up and running but for some reason even after enabling some of the accessibility features in the app, I'm not hearing the scanned text or able to see where it puts the OCR version. Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke

Re: Prismo for Mac

2014-03-14 Thread Jenine Stanley
Good to know. I think this is probably something simple I'm not doing. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 14, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I have Prizmo, and it can be pretty confusing. Honestly, the best thing to do is to contact Prizmo. I used Twitter

copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
I know that in Windows you can fairly easily copy a url to the clipboard by using alt-d to get to the address bar then control-c to copy. Is there a way to do this in Safari? With Voice over? I do this often to share web sites with people and was just wondering. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke

Re: copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
Giant thanks Cheryl! that's exactly what I was looking for. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote: Do cmd-l to bring up the address bar and it should say the url and contents selected. Do cmd-c to copy and then paste

Re: copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
Interesting. Thanks. I'd like to learn more about Apple scripts. Can you or anyone else provide some resources? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Alternatively: 1. Open Applescript Editor, and hit cmd-n for a new

Re: copying a url to the clipboard

2014-03-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
Actually Alex, that's good advice and good to know where you got your info. I used to love writing macros back in the day and need some mental challenge about now. :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I googled

moving to text on web pages

2014-03-12 Thread Jenine Stanley
. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group

Re: moving to text on web pages

2014-03-12 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks much. I'll try this. I did try the different element one and that didn't really get it. This would be a nice addition to the web navigation as I'm used to it from Window-Eyes and IE. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 12, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com

Re: moving to text on web pages

2014-03-12 Thread Jenine Stanley
Teresa's solution of control-option-command=n sort of works but not quite. This might be a feature worth asking about in future updates. It would be really helpful on Facebook to breeze through statuses. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 12, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Jamie Pauls jamiepa

Re: Amadeus question

2014-03-10 Thread Jenine Stanley
. This is the key combination I was looking for Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 10, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Jenine, I find pressing option and End gets me to the end of the file and I can then append. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting

Amadeus question

2014-03-09 Thread Jenine Stanley
do it in reverse, adding the earlier files to the beginning of each file as that seems to be where they end up regardless of what I do. Any thoughts? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group

Re: access to remote computers with Remote Desktop

2014-03-06 Thread Jenine Stanley
playing with that one. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Full access with Remote Desktop would be ideal. In the meantime, though, will Team Viewer work? Specifically, if I have Mac1 and Mac2, can I use Mac1 to remotely

Re: Still Some Pretty Severe Bugs in Mavericks

2014-03-06 Thread Jenine Stanley
Windows machine today over server access, email and transferring files, give me a Mavericks bug. :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'd like to make a suggestion. before declaring something a bug, it might be a good idea

access to remote computers with Remote Desktop

2014-03-05 Thread Jenine Stanley
, that would be huge. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

team viewer question

2014-03-04 Thread Jenine Stanley
server? These screens include a start screen with Windows8-like tiles and then the individual programs. Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: team viewer question

2014-03-04 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks. Just went there and grabbed it. Now, let the fun begin. :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:19 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: To get team view on the mac you would have to go to team viewer.com to get it. On Mar 4, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Jenine

more on remote desktop

2014-03-04 Thread Jenine Stanley
settings. then again, don't get me on that soapbox. :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries

Remote Desktop applications and Voice Over

2014-03-03 Thread Jenine Stanley
how this works in Mac OS world? If Voice Over would work with Remote Desktop and these applications, it would be pretty much ground breaking for my job and that of my blind coworker. Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: SD Card slot

2014-02-28 Thread Jenine Stanley
Yep, the card sticks out a bit on my MBP as well. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 28, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: Funny, I just tried this for the first time last week and, yes, the card does stick out about 5mm or so. That makes sense as you would

Quick way to get the time

2014-02-28 Thread Jenine Stanley
? Is there a quick command or sequence to just get the time? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr

Re: Quick way to get the time

2014-02-28 Thread Jenine Stanley
Awesome! Thanks much. I always wondered what keyboard commander was about. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 28, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jenine, It's right option t, but there are a couple of things you may need to do first. Go

help with a few commands

2014-02-26 Thread Jenine Stanley
. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group

Re: help with a few commands

2014-02-26 Thread Jenine Stanley
Giant thanks Anne, I figured it was something simple. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 26, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: First of all, on a laptop, Home is FN-Left Arrow, End is FN-Right arrow, Page up is FN-Up arrow and Page down is FN-Down

Re: how to use a usb mouse with voiceover on the mac

2014-02-25 Thread Jenine Stanley
in. husband Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 25, 2014, at 1:59 PM, christopher hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Just a guess but you should be able to just plug it in and it will magically work; no drivers necessary. Some mice even act as trackpads so you can use

Re: Amadeus Pro Keyboard Command

2014-02-22 Thread Jenine Stanley
This is an awesome tutorial! Thanks Eric. Great job. You answered most of my questions I initially had about using the program. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Daniel McGee danielmcgee...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Donna, here hopefully should

Amadeus Pro question

2014-02-21 Thread Jenine Stanley
play. Am I on the wrong screen? Also, is there a list specifically for Amadeus and blind users? Thanks! Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

more questions about audio editing software

2014-02-20 Thread Jenine Stanley
Regarding audio editing software, which of the several apps mentioned here allows for simple keyboard-based selection and manipulation? I really like the interface of MicroWave but I can't seem to figure out how to select audio for editing. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You

Re: more questions about audio editing software

2014-02-20 Thread Jenine Stanley
Are there any tutorials for Amadeus out there? I really wasn't getting a lot from the manual regarding keyboard support. I'm a long-time Sound Forge user so that colors my experience quite a bit. :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7

Zoomtext and Voice Over on the Mac

2014-02-20 Thread Jenine Stanley
OK, final question for me on this topic of using screen enlargement with VO. Is anyone using ZoomText for Mac? If so, does it work in conjunction with VO? If not, do you use speech at all with it and if so, how? Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message

Re: Zoomtext and Voice Over on the Mac

2014-02-20 Thread Jenine Stanley
Giant thanks for the podcast link. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 20, 2014, at 11:08 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: I just checked applevis and I don't see a podcast for amadeus pro but there is a podcast about it at http://htb2.com/2013/10/to-the-point-4-audio

Re: Zoomtext and Voice Over on the Mac

2014-02-20 Thread Jenine Stanley
Huge thanks. This is very helpful. My husband is a long-time ZoomText user so he'll be very happy to hear this. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote: ZoomText Mac has better font smoothing so the text is clearer

Re: more questions about audio editing software

2014-02-20 Thread Jenine Stanley
Mike, It was a great podcast and very helpful. Looking forward to more. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Mike blinkin4...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Daniel. I just posted this email again. I guess I should read entire thread before I respond. My bad guys

Re: more questions about audio editing software

2014-02-20 Thread Jenine Stanley
commands for selecting audio but no response as of yet. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 20, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote: Hi all, It's been a crazy day, sorry for not responding. thanks all for the suggestions. Sounds like Amadeus Pro is the way

USB keyboard issues

2014-02-19 Thread Jenine Stanley
as if any Usb keyboard I install now has this issue. Any wisdom out there about this? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Zoom and mouse question

2014-02-19 Thread Jenine Stanley
. Thanks. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

USB keyboard issues

2014-02-19 Thread Jenine Stanley
attaching works with either Windows or Mac. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr

deleting an account

2014-02-18 Thread Jenine Stanley
by speed? who, me? :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: deleting an account

2014-02-18 Thread Jenine Stanley
I don't think I have this on and there's really no data for either of the accounts. They are just for purposes of learning this machine, hence their removal. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:57 PM, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: it depends. do you have

Re: Accessible PDF Files MACBook PRO

2014-02-16 Thread Jenine Stanley
. The tough part is getting people to create PDFs in accessible formats. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote: Is it possible for TOTALLY BLIND users of a MACBook PRO, who exclusively use VoiceOver (VO) to READ/InterAct

anti-virus/security software for the iMac

2014-02-16 Thread Jenine Stanley
I am not one to believe that the Apple universe is immune to hacking and would like to get some recommendations for antivirus and security software for our MBP and iMac. Any thoughts or recommendations? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you

Dashboard question

2014-02-16 Thread Jenine Stanley
I'm wanting to use Dashboard but now every time I bring it up using either the gesture or F12 key, I'm in the calculator and can't seem to get out of that to other dashboard apps. Anyone have any advice? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you

Re: anti-virus/security software for the iMac

2014-02-16 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks Deb, This doesn't seem to show up in the App Store though. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 16, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: I have Sophos for Mac and have been very happy with it. The same installation also protect my windows Virtual Machine

Re: anti-virus/security software for the iMac

2014-02-16 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks much. I'll look into this. and yes I will take you up on that disk image installation help. :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 16, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote: Just google it, they have a web site and you can download the home version

Re: anti-virus/security software for the iMac

2014-02-16 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks much for these. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 16, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeanine, Clamsav is good. Virus barrier is also good. both of these are in the mac app store. I think there are a couple more that people

Re: getting out of threads in Mail

2014-02-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks much to everyone for the tips. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 13, 2014, at 4:58 AM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote: vo + j 13. feb. 2014 kl. 00:13 skrev Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com: I changed Mail to Classic view but now have one

iMac setup

2014-02-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
installed and working, I hope. :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr

Re: iMac setup

2014-02-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
Thanks much. My office in New York was just closed due to snow so I get to play Mac this afternoon. Geek On! :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations! Setting it up will be easy - just hit cmd-f5 once

speaking keystrokes in password edit boxes

2014-02-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
of just making sounds. I could not think for the life of me where in either the VO utility or system preferences I saw this option. Also, where do I check so that VO comes on automatically at startup? Thanks. Oh and he loves, loves, loves the retina display. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke

Re: speaking keystrokes in password edit boxes

2014-02-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
Giant thanks Jessica. Now I recall that and need to set him up as the Admin. Unlike my laptop, this one will only have the one log in. Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 13, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: hi, the use voiceover on the login screen requires

Re: speaking keystrokes in password edit boxes

2014-02-13 Thread Jenine Stanley
computers remain in the Man Cave and no one goes into said Man Cave but me so why not be able to hear what one is typing? All righty then. Type carefully I say. :) Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com On Feb 13, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I don't believe you can

getting out of threads in Mail

2014-02-12 Thread Jenine Stanley
I changed Mail to Classic view but now have one question. When in a conversation or thread of messages, how do you get out of it? I end up deleting the entire thread before I can get back to the main list of messages. I know I'm not doing something right here. I like the classic view

Intro

2014-02-11 Thread Jenine Stanley
Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using adaptive computer equipment since 1988 but got my first Mac, an MBP, about a month ago. I'm doing some word processing and want to resume audio editing and production with this machine. My husband is also getting an iMac

MicroWave audio editor

2014-02-11 Thread Jenine Stanley
Anyone out there using the MicroWave audio editor? I have a couple questions about selecting sound from a document. I'm a Sound forge user from the PC world so am very familiar with audio editing but there seems to be no keyboard command for this task, or at least not one readily

Re: Intro

2014-02-11 Thread Jenine Stanley
AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there welcome to the list did you use the voiceover quick start yet? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, I'm Jenine Stanley from Columbus, Ohio. I've been using

Re: Intro

2014-02-11 Thread Jenine Stanley
, why not? Anyway, welcome aboard, and feel free to ask any questions you have. I'm sure you already know, but www.applevis.com is a great resource for Mac material as well as iOS. -- Have a great day, Alex mehg...@gmail.com On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke

Re: notification center

2014-02-11 Thread Jenine Stanley
Does VO M twice not work on the iMac? that's what I use to get to it. The first time you go into that second set of menus, you have to right arrow over to it but the next time, you're on it. HTH. On Feb 11, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: No, that's not a dumb question.

working with PDF files

2014-02-11 Thread Jenine Stanley
Not sure how many of you do a lot with PDF files but let me describe a situation I deal with in the Windows environment and let's see if there's anything comparable on the Mac side. I have Acrobat Pro and with it I can render some PDF files with forms usable with the accessibility

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