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Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters
Hi,
I think that Jonathan is onto something with his response. In regular
documents, in most cases, the headings and such that are in all caps, still
read as the word as opposed to the spelled out cap letters, w
the changes in
speech you hear.
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Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital l
An interesting parallel discussion in WEB AIM where somebody wanted to make
sure “N” followed by “E” would be pronounced as separate characters.
Who things to notice here:
1. the quoted word in Voice Over (El Capitan ) is spelled out.
2. The technique of inserting pseudo elements with ARIA into
ects how capital letters are handled.
But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all
capital letters, like an advertisement with capital letters in a
double-height double-wide font that says "big big savings" or
something similar, I hear this:
B I G S A V I
ht look at in VO Utility,
Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option that affects how capital letters
are handled.
But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital letters, like an
advertisement with capital letters in a double-height double-wide font that says
opened a
document in TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as
expected, for example it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting
you might look at in VO Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's
an option that affects how capital letters are handled.
But that's single lette
properly. I opened a document in
>> TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as expected, for example
>> it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might look at in VO
>> Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option that affects how
>> capita
category, Text tab. It's an option
that affects how capital letters are handled.
But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital
letters, like an advertisement with capital letters in a double-height
double-wide font that says "big big savings" or something
r example
>> it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might look at in VO
>> Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option that affects how
>> capital letters are handled.
>
> But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital
>
. It's an option
that affects how capital letters are handled.
But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital
letters, like an advertisement with capital letters in a double-height
double-wide font that says "big big savings" or something similar, I
hear this:
capital letters are handled.
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On 4/19/2018 12:27 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
I've just been through all the settings in the VO Utility on Mac OS HS,
not to mention the VO item
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Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters
I stand corrected if I am wrong, but to my knowledge, there are no VO
settings for all caps words. You can change how capital letters are handled,
but I don't recall anything that relates to an all cap
I stand corrected if I am wrong, but to my knowledge, there are no VO
settings for all caps words. You can change how capital letters are handled,
but I don't recall anything that relates to an all caps word.
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Mac for the Blind
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I've just been through all the settings in the VO Utility on Mac OS HS,
not to mention the VO item in System Preferences, and I cannot for the
life of me find a setting that controls how words written in all capital
letters are handled. Where is that, please?
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man who said use capital letters, special
hi Ricardo, sure the mac have come a long way in 2 years. And do i
think it is an issue? well i doubt i would waste time pressing keys if
i did not think so, about computers, and education, i am a totally
clinically and cold girl.
If you are living in norway you might have that issue as well.
Lol,
I'm not frustrated at all. I just wanted to no your point of view. Thank you
very much for sharing. Thats why I deliberately pointed out that this might
be a bigger problem for those who are using the new voices in a native language
that happens not to be english. I think in regards
hi recardo.
To be really honest i have mixxed feelings about it. I know that 5
minute and apple could fix it, on the other hand. There are maybe
other areas that like you said would need more attention.
And on that note, time too read a really totally awesome book, das boot,
sandi
On 4/19/13,
,
In the Text tab of the Verbosity panel of VoiceOver Utility there is an
option to customise how VoiceOver reads capital letters. Two of the most
relevant options are change pitch and speak cap. However, when change
pitch is selected, VoiceOver will read a capital X as, capital X in a
higher
Thanks, everyone.
Indeed, now I've switched to Alex it's reading capitals as it's supposed to.
But I hate the Alex voice. I have to set it to really, really slow to be able
to understand it. Neither of the male or female Australian voices — my number
one preference being Karen — read capitals
HI Anne,
The problem isn't that the pitch doesn't change. The pitch does change. The
problem is that in addition to the pitch changing VoiceOver still says the word
capital before the letter. PERHAPS THE BEST EXAMPLE IS FOR YOU TO READ
SOMETHING IN ALL CAPS SUCH AS THIS SENTENCE BY CHARACTER.
Hi Nic!
Sorry you miss understood what Anne said!
I've change my voice to Alex and with him Capitals at as they should! even in
this example when I arrow through and it is set to change pitch all that
happens is the pitch changes!
And with speak all that happens is Alex says Cap X and nothing
I tried this, and I'm only getting a pitch-change with Alex. It doesn't say
cap or capital.
Teresa
On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
wrote:
HI Anne,
The problem isn't that the pitch doesn't change. The pitch does change. The
problem is that in
hi Anne, i dunno but after you have mailed apple accessibility a few
times without getting a answer you tend too roll your own.
I am sure i am not the only one who have mailed A A , about the
problem with the newer voices, but they may not be sure how too
address it.
I wont say i know of a easy
lol,
So, you feel that this issue would have a meaningful impact on the education
of a large number of kids who might be using a Mac? After all, unless they are
speaking a language not english of course, they could use Alex where the
problem doesn't seem to exist. Keep in mind, 2 years ago,
for any responses.
Hi,
In the Text tab of the Verbosity panel of VoiceOver Utility there is an option
to customise how VoiceOver reads capital letters. Two of the most relevant
options are change pitch and speak cap. However, when change pitch is
selected, VoiceOver will read a capital X
.
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Hi,
In the Text tab of the Verbosity panel of VoiceOver Utility there is an
option to customise how VoiceOver reads capital letters. Two of the most
relevant options are change pitch and speak cap. However, when change
pitch is selected, VoiceOver
Thanks for that! When you use speak Cap does VoiceOver still say capital as
well as cap? E.g. cap capital x for X?
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Ok it must be I've noticed before but going through again it does indeed say
cap, capital x!
Not just something like cap x or capital x!
Colin
On 18 Apr 2013, at 00:05, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks for that! When you use speak Cap does VoiceOver still say
Thanks for that. Yes, I think our brains sometimes tune that stuff out
automatically because it knows it's not important and we just retain the
knowledge that it's a capital letter, without focusing on how we know it. But
when I'm spelling out a word in all caps it becomes really annoying and
Hello,
If you use one of the native Apple voices rather than the new third-party
voices, the change of pitch for capital letters will work. I always use Fred as
this is a very reactive voice and the pitch change works perfectly. It also
works with Alex, but if you use one of the new voices
Hi,
I want to hear when I cursor over a capital letter on my IPod Touch. Is
it really true that you can't make VoiceOver indicate when a letter is
capitalized?
Thanks and best regards
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