Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Scott Howell
Yuma, Yes this does help and thanks for the reminder. I was doing some testing a while back for someone on a website and f7 does ring a bell. SO, time to go break stuff. :) THanks, On Mar 8, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > Scott, > > The developer tools are all included in the DVD if

Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Yuma Decaux
Scott, The developer tools are all included in the DVD if my memory serves me right, they are part of the xcode bundle unless those accessibility tools have been recently added with the latest version. If the app uses a standard coco framework, the elements are broken down with information on

Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Scott Howell
Yuma, Are the tools provided on the DVD (and updated via software date) the same or can you get additional tools. ALso just to clarify, if I have an app that has issues, can I use this inspector to look at the controls etc. and provide the developer feedback? There is a specific reason for the

Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi Bryan, Yes to certain extents this is what it does, it does also provide what accessibility class is missig which would Be useful when navigating with a sighted person who can say whether an object is a button or anything else in the interface (i'm talking about image maps here) And as for

Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hey Kevin, I'd so much like scratch live to be accessible it makes me hungry. But ableton having become a behemoth of a company, its harder to get to their channels unless you got someone who directly works there. So anyone got a german friend who got a frined working ther? As for the WWDC thi

Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi christer, the wet/dry parameters for echo and reverb are best used with a fader but yes i agree, the image maps need to be rendered accessible. If you care to go on the algoriddim forum, and just like me contact anders via the forum on the accessibility it would help them and perhaps me some

Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Colin M
Hi all! Ok This sounds like a good thing to me! If those of you who can use this to help dev's and they respond this only can be good! And like someone already said it's better than fix it! :] Colin I'm far too bad for Heaven! The Devil is afraid I'll take his place! On 8 Mar 2011, at 14:10, Bry

Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello Yuma, Just to clarify -- Are you saying that if we have the xcode tools on our Mac we can plug any App from the App Store into the Accessibility Verifier and get this sort of report? I would have thought this would only work with the raw code and not with compiled Apps as purchased from t

Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Kevin Shaw
This is a very positive step towards accessibility. What I like about this is that devs can receive more useful feedback than, "Dear developer, your program isn't accessible with Voiceover. Fix it." If this can be brought to light at something like the WWDC, I think huge strides can be made for

Re: a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, I'm not sure i understood everything in your mail, but i'm thinking of 2 apps that could use this sort of help, one of which you are familiar with and the other i've mentioned before here on the list. The familiar one i thought of was Algoriddims DJay for the Mac. What's needed there is a wa

a helping hand for developers in assessing their accessibility

2011-03-08 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi everyone,, I've looked into the accessibility tools available in xcode, and there's an intersting one which is the accessibility verifier which tests accessibility defaults with the standard apple api and breaks down every element of a given application, checks whether ax atrributes have bee