Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-04 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Anouk, I'd be interested in hearing your experiences with nvda and braille displays. Off list of course. I always meant to try it but have lost track of NVDa over the years. There are actually two versions of system access. SA2go requires an internet connection but is free. System acces

Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-04 Thread anouk radix
Hi, I would like to add to this. In the Netherlands it is quite common for someone to also be able to get a braille display, I am not sure with system access but, at least imho, nvda is not ideal for braille only users. Voiceover works better in this way. Also, I have only used system access onc

Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-04 Thread anouk radix
further behind if they cannot afford the yearly charges for upgrades. Bill -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 8:29 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject:

Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-04 Thread anouk radix
Hi, I am behind with my mail reading so not sure if you got many replies yet. Some additional random thoughts: Software on the mac is generally less expensive then on the pc and some great software is even free of charge included with the mac and accessible (garageband for example, i seem to rem

Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Yes; but you can't really count system access. It isn't as powerful as Jaws or Window-eyes. I own system access to go and it's really a good enough screenreader, but lacks many of the powerful features of the other two such as set files or scripts. I don't know about NVDA. On Sep 1, 2011, at 11

Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-01 Thread Alex Hall
True. However, the cost of operating system upgrades is still less on the Mac than on Windows. Besides which, most agencies buy Jaws because it is, or was, the gold standard and is still the biggest name in screen reading today, and no one considers alternatives like SAToGo or NVDA. On 9/1/11, Mar

Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-01 Thread Mary Otten
To add a different perspective on the screen reader cost issue, depending on the needs of the end user, the "mac is cheaper in the long run" argument may not hold, because there are now perfectly adequate low or no cost screen reading solutions for Windows, namely NVDA and System Access. In the

Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-01 Thread Alex Hall
Robertson > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 8:29 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: reason to get a mac > > Hello Paul, > > I would just like to add that for people who use several languages, the Mac > comes with voices and Braille for quite a number of

RE: reason to get a mac

2011-09-01 Thread Bill Holton
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 8:29 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: reason to get a mac Hello Paul, I would just like to add that for people who use several languages, the Mac comes with voices

Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-01 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Paul, I would just like to add that for people who use several languages, the Mac comes with voices and Braille for quite a number of different languages. Cheers, Anne On 1 Sep 2011, at 12:56, Paul Erkens wrote: > Dear list, > > I have a question for us mac users. If anyone thinks it

Re: reason to get a mac

2011-09-01 Thread erik burggraaf
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reason to get a mac

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Erkens
Dear list, I have a question for us mac users. If anyone thinks it is off topic, if you have an idea where to better ask this, please let me know. Shortly, I will attend a discussion with one of our national funds that help blind people buy a computer. If a blind person living in the Netherlan