Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
2005/7/6, Gustavo Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You understood me wrong, I liked the Maemo GUI, but I want some kde > apps, possible kontact (maybe as separated apps, like kmail), koffice > and khtml. > [...] > Talking about Apps... I know 770 is a device for browsing... but some > productivity w

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Timo Steuerwald
Nils Faerber schrieb: Ever tried the fullscreen mode? You do not have to switch anything to navigate. You have fullscreen width and a bottom button bar for the standard navigation. I do not see the point here... Ok, I was not sure if you can still see the button bar, but the issue with the

Re: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread sampo . nurmentaus
Hi, To connect GPS it needs USB serial port driver. The USB GPS modules actually contains USB to serial chip like ftdi or prolific. At the moment there is not at all in real device /lib/modules. Most propably it needs to have module for usb chip unless it is compiled into kernel. I was about

RE: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread sampo . nurmentaus
Hi, I am doing the web page to the www.katix.org. As addition to headers, it need some GUI fine tuning. One interesting thing is that when i minimize the window, it just disapears and i don't know how to maximize it again. It looks a like that it needs least to have maemo specific to get wor

AW: [maemo-developers] LiveCD under UML or qEMU?

2005-07-05 Thread Roger Sperberg
The explanation of using Virtual PC was really helpful. I downloaded the 45-day trial version and was running the Maemo LiveCD iso within 20 minutes of first hitting the MS site.  For a Win XP laptop-based user like myself, the one-two punch of the LiveCD and a way to run both environments simultan

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gustavo Barbieri wrote: > On 7/5/05, Timo Steuerwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>What I would like to say, that even if the screen has a really high >>resolution like the 770, there's no need to waste space like this. But >>sure, I don't think that

Re: [maemo-developers] GUI builder

2005-07-05 Thread Gustavo Barbieri
On 7/5/05, Damon Chaplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, it is quite difficult to know when glade-3 or gazpacho or other GUI > builders will be 100% ready. It turns out to be a lot more complicated > to write a GUI builder than people initially think. Yes... and this also brings me the idea to p

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Gustavo Barbieri
On 7/5/05, Timo Steuerwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I would like to say, that even if the screen has a really high > resolution like the 770, there's no need to waste space like this. But > sure, I don't think that you'll need to port QT and KDE if you want only > a smaller application bor

Re: [maemo-developers] No response from developer device program?

2005-07-05 Thread Gustavo Barbieri
On 7/5/05, Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I know, yes. As long as the address is still available on the > web page, you can still send an application =) What's the web page URL? -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri --- Comput

Re: [maemo-developers] GUI builder

2005-07-05 Thread Damon Chaplin
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 12:33 +0300, Karoliina T. Salminen wrote: > ext Tommi Komulainen wrote: > > >On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 00:04 +0100, ext Damon Chaplin wrote: > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I noticed that a GUI builder tool is slated for future releases. > >> > >>Are you extending glade-2 or glade-3 o

Re: UI concerns --- was [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 7/5/05, Pixelnate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 5, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Kalle Vahlman wrote: > > > On 7/5/05, Timo Steuerwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'd rather say they are comfortably big targets to poke at, but I > > guess that's more a question of preference than a hard numbe

Re: AW: [maemo-developers] wiki and maemo.org

2005-07-05 Thread Daniel Monteiro
I`ve added both english and portuguese entries.Steffen , please , translate them. The link is on the bottom of the main page. We need to have a better structure =-) this weekend, I will translate the howto from maemo.org. it is ok to post this on the wiki? my convention to translate things is thi

Re: AW: [maemo-developers] LiveCD under UML or qEMU?

2005-07-05 Thread Benjamin Stadin
I haven't tried Virtual PC, good summary. I should also mention that the "virtualization" performance penalty is actually not too bad, at least in the case of Microsoft VirtualPC. Microsoft people to whom I have spoken about the product say that the penalty is ~15 % or so for processor intensi

UI concerns --- was [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Pixelnate
On Jul 5, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Kalle Vahlman wrote: On 7/5/05, Timo Steuerwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd rather say they are comfortably big targets to poke at, but I guess that's more a question of preference than a hard number... On the PalmOS the targets are much smaller and there are

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Nils Faerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pixelnate schrieb: [...] > Exactly my point. Switching between user modes is cumbersome. Not an > enormous pain in the ass, but it will get annoying after awhile. Since > the 770 is (among other things) a web browsing device, there should be > as littl

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Pixelnate
===On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:47 AM, Timo Steuerwald wrote: Because I have still good eyes, I don't think this size is really needed for me. :-) Furthermore I don't know if it is userfriendly to browse a website in full screen mode and then for navigating switch to common screen mode and afte

AW: [maemo-developers] wiki and maemo.org

2005-07-05 Thread Steffen Vogel
I'm logged in too. Your idea is great. I think English is not so good... ^^ I could help by the German site. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Daniel Monteiro Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2005 19:02 An: Baab, Ingo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; m

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 7/5/05, Timo Steuerwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nils Faerber schrieb: > > I had already holded the device in my hands at the Linuxtag. I know the > display has a really impressive solution, but nevertheless the UI > elements and the font of the menu is really very big. I'd rather say the

[maemo-developers] Maemo update in OpenEmbedded

2005-07-05 Thread Florian Boor
Hello all, we have some updates of the maemo and Nokia 770 support in OpenEmbedded. Latest package descriptions can be found in the org.openembedded.dev Monotone branch. I started to write down some overview and instructions about maemo and OE. it can be found here: http://downloads.kernelconcept

Re: AW: [maemo-developers] LiveCD under UML or qEMU?

2005-07-05 Thread John B. Holmblad
Steffen, with respect to Microsoft's VirtualPC product, here is the url to the Microsoft www page for the product and, from there you can download an evaluation guide and a deployment  white paper:             http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx Although Microsoft will no

Re: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread Timo Savola
> 770->ARM->big endian, right? ARMs can be big- or little-endian. 770 is using the more common little-endian ARM. timo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: [maemo-developers] wiki and maemo.org

2005-07-05 Thread Daniel Monteiro
Im already logged in. Can I start a section called "770 in other languages"? there , we can list available languages and its main pages. --- "Baab, Ingo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > I started a wiki at http://www.wiki770.org. > Such a 'wiki' is IMHO the perfect place for any kind > of ti

Re: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread Daniel Monteiro
the 770 is little endian? 770->ARM->big endian, right? now Im confused. --- Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mattias Schlenker wrote: > > Kate Alhola wrote: > > > >> The qt3 compiled without larger problems. Just > the uic was hangin

OFFTOPIC: Re: En: Re: [maemo-developers] N770 slow/Bluetooth discovery

2005-07-05 Thread Daniel Monteiro
folks, I want to make clear that when I said "hacking",I mean nothing illegal. I don´t use warez. My hacking was from a developer perspective: I was trying to relive the GNUPOC project.just that.Now that there is a Linux Toolchain for Symbian , this is not a priority. Also,for now, Maemo seem much

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Timo Steuerwald
Nils Faerber schrieb: Good luck! But have you seen the device already live in your hand's palm? The screen is "small" in terms of dimonsion but not in resolution. The Hildon GUI suits that really qiute well. You have plenty of space for regular aplications while still keeping an overview over th

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Raphael Jacquot
Nils Faerber wrote: > Good luck! imho, it's gonna be an "available ram" issue :D ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Nils Faerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pixelnate schrieb: > I disagree. I think there is a lot to be desired in the Maemo GUI. There > is way too much wasted space on a screen so small. IMHO, the top and > right side are the biggest offenders. If I ever get the Scratchbox/Maemo > thing work

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Pixelnate
I disagree. I think there is a lot to be desired in the Maemo GUI. There is way too much wasted space on a screen so small. IMHO, the top and right side are the biggest offenders. If I ever get the Scratchbox/Maemo thing working I want to try and play with some things. Maybe this weekend. n+

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Florian Boor
Hello, Gustavo Barbieri wrote: > Wel... my idea was to wipe out any gtk from it ;) > Okay, maemo UI is great, but I think using kde technology worth loosing it. is that really woth that effort? Who would want to maintain a hack like this? It might be a better idea to identify technologies which a

Re: [maemo-developers] No response from developer device program?

2005-07-05 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On tis, 2005-07-05 at 10:59 -0300, ext Gustavo Barbieri wrote: > On 7/5/05, Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On sön, 2005-07-03 at 17:45 +0200, ext Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I recenty sent a request to qualify for a developer device to

Re: [maemo-developers] No response from developer device program?

2005-07-05 Thread Gustavo Barbieri
On 7/5/05, Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On sön, 2005-07-03 at 17:45 +0200, ext Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I recenty sent a request to qualify for a developer device to the > > mail address given on the web. But never got a response (neither

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Gustavo Barbieri
On 7/5/05, Tapani Paelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ext Gustavo Barbieri wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >Has anyone started a KDE port or is interested in one? > > > > > > > I'm doing some feasibility study on Qt application usage. Some problems > listed : > > * memory usage (especially if running

AW: AW: [maemo-developers] external usb devices

2005-07-05 Thread Steffen Vogel
Hab mich jetzt doch entschieden maemo live als virtuellen Rechner laufen zu lassen. Ich benutze Win XP und werde mich jetzt mal in virtual pc und wmware einarbeiten... Tipps könnte ich gut gebrauchen... -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Mattias Schlenker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet:

AW: [maemo-developers] LiveCD under UML or qEMU?

2005-07-05 Thread Steffen Vogel
Hello, i’m using win xp too. So i’m interested in your solution with the virtual pc. Sorely I’m a total newbie on this area. Have you a tutorial or introduction for me? I am very happy to porting applications!   Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von John

Re: [maemo-developers] how to save???

2005-07-05 Thread Jorge Souza
Please, There is no SPUTNIK. It's NOKIA 770. regards > How to permit save in sputnik?? is a permission to > change, where?? --Jorge Souza ___ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o dis

Re: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Koen Kooi wrote: > Mattias Schlenker wrote: > >>>Kate Alhola wrote: >>> >>> The qt3 compiled without larger problems. Just the uic was hanging or crashing with scratchbox/ARM compilation.There is some incompatibility with qemu and uic. Whe

Re: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mattias Schlenker wrote: > Kate Alhola wrote: > >> The qt3 compiled without larger problems. Just the uic was hanging >> or crashing with scratchbox/ARM compilation.There is some incompatibility >> with qemu and uic. When made all uic stuff with scrat

Re: [maemo-developers] Hands on with the 770

2005-07-05 Thread Tapani Paelli
ext Jussi Pakkanen wrote: The X mouse pointer can be seen on the screen just like with the Maemo dev kit + xvnc. It may be a bit distracting. Pointer will disappear in the final release, now it is needed for debugging purposes and such. Applications can specify their own cursors if they

Re: [maemo-developers] No response from developer device program?

2005-07-05 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On sön, 2005-07-03 at 17:45 +0200, ext Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Hi all, > > I recenty sent a request to qualify for a developer device to the > mail address given on the web. But never got a response (neither an > ok, nor a decline). I even repeated to get a confirmation. > > So, I a

[maemo-developers] Hands on with the 770

2005-07-05 Thread Jussi Pakkanen
Hi all I had the possibility to use an actual 770 device for around 45 minutes or so yesterday. Nokia's David Weinehall was at Debconf with two 770s and he allowed me to test one. Thanks David. Here are some random thoughts. The display is awesome. It is bright and extremely sharp. If you get the

Re: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread Mattias Schlenker
Kate Alhola wrote: Then i tried to take screenshots from real 770 device, I noticed that it is listening the only unix domain socket so i can't grap screen with external application. I also compiled xgrabsc to grab screen locally but xgrapsc just makes the device to boot. Maybe reading the k

Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port

2005-07-05 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 7/5/05, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/5/05, Gustavo Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Has anyone started a KDE port or is interested in one? > > It would be smarter to write the UI from (almost) scratch, since most > of maemo's current UI relies on Gtk. I

Re: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread Komal Shah
--- Mattias Schlenker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use a Linksys NSLU2 for compiling apps for the > NSLU2 (armv5b). Are > there similar OMAP based boxes or boards that would > allow native > compiling for ARM/OMAP? I don't think so. They provide Evaluation Boards, *not* a complete PC like b

RE: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread kate.alhola
I am doing the web page to the www.katix.org. As addition to headers, it need some GUI fine tuning. One interesting thing is that when i minimize the window, it just disapears and i don't know how to maximize it again. It looks a like that it needs least to have maemo specific to get working co

Re: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread Mattias Schlenker
Kate Alhola wrote: The qt3 compiled without larger problems. Just the uic was hanging or crashing with scratchbox/ARM compilation.There is some incompatibility with qemu and uic. When made all uic stuff with scratchbox in i386 mode i get qt compiled. I use a Linksys NSLU2 for compiling apps f

RE: [maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread joni.kaki
Hello, Great stuff, I also tried to compile gpsdrive with scratchbox but failed due those header problems, could you put those tips and tricks on mailinglist, or maybe preferably on some webpage (maemo wiki?). -Joni -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread Kate Alhola
I have been porting two GPS applications to 770, the gpsdrive http://www.gpsdrive.cc and cumulus http://www.kflog.org/cumulus The gpsdrive is GTK program and it compiles with litte hacking with incompatible system headers ( some serial port stuff etc ). It looks a like that problem is more in gps

[maemo-developers] Porting applications for Maemo

2005-07-05 Thread Kate Alhola
I have been porting two GPS applications to 770, the gpsdrive http://www.gpsdrive.cc and cumulus http://www.kflog.org/cumulus The gpsdrive is GTK program and it compiles with litte hacking with incompatible system headers ( some serial port stuff etc ). It was easy to get running but to get it i

[maemo-developers] wiki and maemo.org

2005-07-05 Thread Baab, Ingo
I started a wiki at http://www.wiki770.org. Such a 'wiki' is IMHO the perfect place for any kind of tips & tricks, information and also inter-communication. Ferenc mentioned to link it from maemo.org, but it seems he -and I also- wants to see some content and activity on it first.. Short explan

[maemo-developers] "Home" view plugin.

2005-07-05 Thread alterego
I'm working on a couple of applications that I wish to use the home plugin framework. I was wondering if Nokia will be releasing source code for one of their plugins. This would aid my development a _lot_ also, making any other choice application for a specific "type" of applications' source co

[maemo-developers] LugRadio

2005-07-05 Thread Stuart
LugRadio have an interview with Yannick and Carlos from Nokia about 770 development. http://www.lugradio.org/ Stuart. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers