Re: Installing Maemo SDK 4 Beta Howto

2007-10-27 Thread Michael Stepanov
On 10/26/07, Laurent MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your work. But maybe the easiest way is to download that VMWare image - http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ After various tests with various Torrent clients, I'm still not able to download this VM image. For example, I

Re: Installing Maemo SDK 4 Beta Howto

2007-10-27 Thread Laurent MARTIN
I downloaded that image via HTTP successfully. Maybe you should report to the image creators. Thank you for your email after having read it, I've realised that I was downloading version 0.2 of the image from garage (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemovmware/), not from the website

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello! * Since Nokia holds most of the infrastructure I fear Nokia has the burden to supply the technical infrastructure while the community will support the daily work, the rating and the quality assurance. Fear? If this doesn't sound like a fair exchange then please suggest fair

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Antonio Orlando
I'm sorry, this is a long one, but I've done my best to be as clear as possible in order to avoid readers having to go on website and study a new system just to follow what I wanted to say, if the same concepts were written with few words as I could have done ;) So, please go with this

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Antonio Orlando
Errata: [...] Of course the reply to his question (The error message shown when you try to update python2.5-runtime doesn't mention anything about this?) was no and so I continued using the old Python runtime. [...] [...] Of course the reply to his answer was no and so I continued using

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello! - Nokia: We want to centralize the development to just make things easier, simpler and add service - without compromising the open source idea. (Simplicity, centric) Centralization doesn't compete with 'the open source idea'. We are I did meant that (it was meant exactly they

Re: scratchbox problem after new installation

2007-10-27 Thread Chris Mcnally
Mathias Uebelacker wrote: after installation, solving the resolve problem (thanks to Marius) and installing python via apt-get the basic problem is still the same. Every time i call the run-standalone.sh ./myscript.py i get the error: File ./myscript.py, line 2, in ? import gtk

RE: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread quim.gil
Alright, so we seem to agree in the general concepts. Let's go into details. The question is not the quality of the Quality awareness document which likely could be improved. The question is, if such a document is the right way to control quality? Alright, what about leaving the role of this

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Even better would be if it could build Debian source package on request. Just by giving it the package name it would fetch the sources from Debian repository and (try to) build them for Maemo. While I understand the appeal, this is a really bad

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Tim Teulings [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Note that debian FTP master as far as I know only check license stuff and similar - they do not check the application itself True. The Linux community distributions handle quality differently. They use same small initial checks and then a staged

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Antonio Orlando
* Also we need a very easy way to get bug reports (and feature requests) directly from the device into the bug tracking system. It is clear the convenience of having an automated way to send crash reports with traces, but what else would be needed other than that? Do you mean an option

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Kees Jongenburger
On 10/27/07, Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also want to point out the classic the perfect is enemy of the good enough. The processes and documents can, and should, evolve as the needs of the audience and developers evolve. But almost anything would be an improvement to the

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello! Alright, what about leaving the role of this document in a checkbox developers check in order to get upload rights to extras, à la terms conditions. Something like I'm aware of the maemo Quality Awareness criteria and I have tested my applications against them before uploading

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello! Depends. The guide (aka the Debian Policy Document, aka policy) distinguishes between musts and shoulds. Violations of musts are considered Release Critical bugs, violations of shoulds are non-RC bugs. Specific exceptions for specific packages have been made, when justified. In the

RE: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 21:17 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but at least nobody can say - 'sorry guys, I didn't know my app could brick the device'. Requiring any quality control before having a place to put the alpha/beta-quality stuff will just stop us from getting much software. Software

RE: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

2007-10-27 Thread Darius Jack
Sorry my friend, but Quim jest right. There is a number of applications ported to Nokia Tablet, in my case comoiled for N770, crashing my maemo. The only solution proposed to me at http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/ was to reflash my N770 with non-certified OS2007HE. Having installed 3

Installation failure

2007-10-27 Thread Stephen Berry
I could use some help with my install. I'm using Suse 10.3 for my development environment and I'm trying to install the 3.1/3.2 Bora SDK. Once I get to the step in the install instructions: 3.3 Nokia EUSA licensed binaries The following bad thing happens. Could someone tell me how to