Re: TestGtkEmbed on N800

2008-02-07 Thread Andrew Gatt
Andrew Gatt wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Andrew wrote: >> >> >>> You suggest i need a symlink, but i'm still unclear where. The >>> libgtkembedmoz.so is at /usr/lib/ on the device, but ldd says that >>> TestGtkEmbed doesn't depend on it anyway. >>> >>> Using nm on TestGtkEmbe

maemo.org work on sprint mode

2008-02-07 Thread Quim Gil
Brief not-so-new news: Since few days ago all the maemo.org related work is done based on monthly sprints publicly documented and open to your input and involvement. Interested? See https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo2midgard-discussion/2008-February/000220.html The monthly sprint planning

Re: Development for Nokia N800 / N810

2008-02-07 Thread Jesse Guardiani
On 2/7/08, Merrick Fonnesbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Based on my poking around and finding various posts on the internet and > different tutorials can anyone confirm what I have found. > > I have a Nokia N800 and N810 and would like to write some applications > for them, which access the soun

Development for Nokia N800 / N810

2008-02-07 Thread Merrick Fonnesbeck
Based on my poking around and finding various posts on the internet and different tutorials can anyone confirm what I have found. I have a Nokia N800 and N810 and would like to write some applications for them, which access the sound and camera on the devices and use them. Am I understanding that

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Benoit HERVIER
Mikhail Sobolev a écrit : > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 03:02:10PM +0200, (int) Eero Tamminen wrote: >> ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:47:07AM -0500, Levi Bard wrote: Comments: * Is it necessary to separate each package into source/armel/i386/etc? Why not just

Re: VS: How can I test a GPS application without using the device?

2008-02-07 Thread Julius Luukko
Andrea Grandi wrote: > Hi, > >> You can use gpsfake on your host machine (comes with gpsd). I noticed >> that it works with scratchbox, I don't know how, but it does. I was about to >> try to run it inside scratchbox, but there is no need. > > I noticed it but I wasn't able to make it work, beca

Re: Maemo Mapper crash

2008-02-07 Thread Krischan Keitsch
I do have the same problem. First I thought the file system is corrupt but I could not confirm this yet. Then I tried to reload the map tiles but mm kept crashing. I have to admit that I did not check bugzilla yet if someone else had the same problem. I am running maemo mapper 2.3.1 on n810. Kr

Re: VS: How can I test a GPS application without using the device?

2008-02-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi, > You can use gpsfake on your host machine (comes with gpsd). I noticed > that it works with scratchbox, I don't know how, but it does. I was about to > try to run it inside scratchbox, but there is no need. I noticed it but I wasn't able to make it work, because I couldn't find any gps log

VS: How can I test a GPS application without using the device?

2008-02-07 Thread Julius Luukko
Hello Andrea, You can use gpsfake on your host machine (comes with gpsd). I noticed that it works with scratchbox, I don't know how, but it does. I was about to try to run it inside scratchbox, but there is no need. Sorry for top posting, using the ITOS default e-mail client. -- Julius -

Re: How can I test a GPS application without using the device?

2008-02-07 Thread Brad Midgley
Andrea I haven't tried with n810 yet, but making gumstix or neo1973 act as a bluetooth gps is fairly straightforward as long as gpspipe is installed. sdptool add SP rfcomm -r watch 0 1 sh -c "/usr/bin/gpspipe -r >/dev/rfcomm0" & Brad On Feb 7, 2008 9:42 AM, Andrea Grandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Maemo Mapper crash

2008-02-07 Thread MoRpHeUz
Hi, I'm having problems with maemo mapper while using it. Sometimes it just crashes, rebooting the device some times and other times just crashing maemo mapper. I'm using a bluetooth gps unit from leadtek. Somebody else having this kind of trouble ? It looks like that it started when I upgrad

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Feb 7, 2008 3:32 PM, Levi Bard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What do you propose to do with these comments? Include in > > notifications, store somewhere, something else? > > At least include in notifications, and probably store for later review > (i.e., when v2 is considered for promotion,

How can I test a GPS application without using the device?

2008-02-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hello, I'd like to write a Python application that interface itself to GPS (using gpsd). I'd like to be able to develop it on my PC as well, without using the real hardware. Not because I don't want to use my N810, but because I should use it outside to test it! I've discovered this application:

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Levi Bard
> > Things that might be nice for the future: > > * Ability to add comments (e.g. "This package bends rule F, but > > promoting for now...") > What do you propose to do with these comments? Include in > notifications, store somewhere, something else? At least include in notifications, and probabl

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Graham Cobb wrote: > On Thursday 07 February 2008 13:24:32 Eero Tamminen wrote: >> If some specific package has issues on x86 due to its development >> happening on ARM only, I don't see that as a problem except in a sense >> that its developers not caring that much about quality in genera

Re: TestGtkEmbed on N800

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Andrew Gatt wrote: >> TestGtkEmbed is probably linked against libgtkmozembed.so, a symlink >> from libgtkembedmoz.so to libgtkmozembed.so would probably make things >> happy. >> >> ./run-mozilla.sh `which ldd` ./TestGtkEmbed >> >> > OK so now i'm feeling quite stupid, i ran the command

Re: TestGtkEmbed on N800

2008-02-07 Thread Andrew Gatt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Andrew wrote: > >> You suggest i need a symlink, but i'm still unclear where. The >> libgtkembedmoz.so is at /usr/lib/ on the device, but ldd says that >> TestGtkEmbed doesn't depend on it anyway. >> >> Using nm on TestGtkEmbed in the armel environment gives "B" addr

RE: TestGtkEmbed on N800

2008-02-07 Thread josh.soref
Andrew wrote: > You suggest i need a symlink, but i'm still unclear where. The > libgtkembedmoz.so is at /usr/lib/ on the device, but ldd says that > TestGtkEmbed doesn't depend on it anyway. > > Using nm on TestGtkEmbed in the armel environment gives "B" addresses > next to all the gtk_moz_emb

Re: Maemo documentation not uptodate

2008-02-07 Thread Juha Kallioinen
ext David Hautbois wrote: > Hi > > This documentation is not uptodate : > https://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/maemo_4-0_tutorial.html > > Some #include line are not right > > Example : > #include > > wrong > > The hildon header files for hildon widgets are in hildon director

Re: TestGtkEmbed on N800

2008-02-07 Thread Andrew Gatt
>> I would like to use the one shipped with the device, to keep any >> installed files to a minimum. >> >> I've patched run-mozilla.sh with the diff file linked above. >> This sets >> the GRE_HOME for you so my command line becomes ./run-mozilla.sh >> ./TestGtkEmbed. I couldn't find the ibid f

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Graham Cobb
On Thursday 07 February 2008 13:24:32 Eero Tamminen wrote: > If some specific package has issues on x86 due to its development > happening on ARM only, I don't see that as a problem except in a sense > that its developers not caring that much about quality in general and > wasting their time debugg

RE: TestGtkEmbed on N800

2008-02-07 Thread josh.soref
> > This too can be answered w/ google (as mentioned in one of > the links in > > my previous email, which sorta cross paths with the one to > which I'm now > > replying) > > > > > >> or do i need > >> to copy all these files somewhere to get the TestGtkEmbed working? > >> > > > > There

RE: TestGtkEmbed on N800

2008-02-07 Thread josh.soref
> Does anyone know what tools i can use to track down where > these symbols > are coming from inside the scratchbox environment? If i can > do that then > i should be able to work out whats missing on the device. Typically nm and ldd are your friends. That and a debugger which will tell you

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 03:02:10PM +0200, (int) Eero Tamminen wrote: >>> I do agree with you with respect to sources, however as for different >>> architectures, the situation is a bit different: one architecture could >>> be better supported than the other, so...

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 03:02:10PM +0200, (int) Eero Tamminen wrote: > ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:47:07AM -0500, Levi Bard wrote: > >> Comments: > >> * Is it necessary to separate each package into source/armel/i386/etc? > >> Why not just display the package name (e.

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:47:07AM -0500, Levi Bard wrote: >> Comments: >> * Is it necessary to separate each package into source/armel/i386/etc? >> Why not just display the package name (e.g. xmaeme), perhaps with a >> link to click to view the contained files, a

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:44:48AM +0100, Niels Breet wrote: > > * to see if anything like this would really > > encourage community developers to use central 'extras' repository > > We would also need to provide an easier way for developers to upload > packages. If we can make a webinterface wher

Re: Debian packaging

2008-02-07 Thread phil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there any way to create a debian package with libraries/binaries > when the source code is unavailable. > Yes, when you create a debian package you can install pretty much anything with the file /package/debian/package.install if you aren't going to do any compi

Re: TestGtkEmbed on N800

2008-02-07 Thread Andrew Gatt
Andrew Gatt wrote: or do i need to copy all these files somewhere to get the TestGtkEmbed working? >>> There is one (ibid) >>> >>> https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser/mozilla/trunk/microb-engine/microb- >>> engine/debian/patches/125_MICROB_autoset_gre

Re: extras: promotion interface

2008-02-07 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:47:07AM -0500, Levi Bard wrote: > > After quite some time of fighting with myself as well as getting > > encouragement from certain members of this community, I'm humbly offer > > to your attention a first {alpha,beta} release of a manual promotion > > interface. > > Gre

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Johan Bilien
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008, Ross Burton wrote: > > if I use a GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL it appears maximized, and I can't move > > it neither change its size. > > Oh I see, you are trying to use GtkWindows as the notes themselves. > > Matchbox (the window manager) enforces normal windows to fill the screen >

Re: Wish list

2008-02-07 Thread Graham Cobb
On Thursday 07 February 2008 08:18:57 Martin Grimme wrote: > 2008/2/7, Al Khadra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2- Is it possible to make an application that will turn the Tablet into > > Bluetooth Speakers using the A2DP profile? For instance, you can stream > > audio from the Motorola DC800 gateway ri

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Frédéric Charrier wrote: >> Yep, it is technically possible to implement these notes as dialogs >> but >> the moving of them (dragging) needs to be implemented by the >> application >> itself. (The dialog movement behaviour can be also modified from >> startup >> parameters if you want this pro

Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Frédéric Charrier wrote: >> Only dialogs without a parent are made system modal by the window >> manager as otherwise user could lose them (as dialogs are not >> listed >> in the task navigator, there's no way to return system dialog once >> an application would be topped above one). This

RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Frédéric Charrier
> Only dialogs without a parent are made system modal by the window > manager as otherwise user could lose them (as dialogs are not > listed > in the task navigator, there's no way to return system dialog once > an application would be topped above one). This behaviour can be > disabled by modifyi

RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Frédéric Charrier
> Yep, it is technically possible to implement these notes as dialogs > but > the moving of them (dragging) needs to be implemented by the > application > itself. (The dialog movement behaviour can be also modified from > startup > parameters if you want this program only for yourself). Hum... Int

Re: libgsf-1-114 (needed to build Abiword) not found - info and sources questions

2008-02-07 Thread Thomas Schmidt
Hi, * Ryan Pavlik schrieb am 07.02.08, um 00:23 Uhr: > Hmm, not sure what's going on here - I haven't touched the sources.list > but here's mine from chinook: > [sbox-CHINOOK_X86: ~] > cat /etc/apt/sources.list > deb http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free non-free > deb-src http://repository.maem

RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Frédéric Charrier
> Oh I see, you are trying to use GtkWindows as the notes themselves. Yes ! Exactly. Sorry, my english is sometimes not as clear as it should be. > Matchbox (the window manager) enforces normal windows to fill the > screen > (excluding panels), dialogs are centered and modal, and "popup" > windo

Re: libgsf-1-114 (needed to build Abiword) not found

2008-02-07 Thread Thomas Schmidt
Hi, * Roberto Resoli schrieb am 06.02.08, um 23:27 Uhr: > Hello, > I'm trying to find > > libgsf-1-114 > libgsf-1-dev > > packages, needed to build Abiword, but they are not available in current > chinook > repository. > I have also tried to build from source, using the instructions found here:

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Tapani Pälli
Hello; ext Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > > ext Ross Burton wrote: > >> On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 20:57 +0100, Frédéric Charrier wrote: >> > what do you mean by "normal" window ? > a GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL ? > Yes, a popup window is only for special rare uses, like toolt

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Ross Burton wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 20:57 +0100, Frédéric Charrier wrote: what do you mean by "normal" window ? a GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL ? >>> Yes, a popup window is only for special rare uses, like tooltips. >> if I use a GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL it appears maximized, and I can't

Re: Wish list

2008-02-07 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Thursday, 7 of February 2008, Al Khadra napisał: > Hello all, > > I would like to know where I can send my wish list for new features? > > Among the things I would like to see: I have one wish: i18n support done right not like it is done now. To be more detailed: 1. Allow user to add new

Re: Wish list

2008-02-07 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 17:16 -0800, Al Khadra wrote: > 1- When the battery is fully charged the Tablet will not only display > the > regular message but will also BEEP. This way you do not have to keep > checking whether it's full or not yet. You will hear the beep. As you > know overcharging kill

Re: Wish list

2008-02-07 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi, 2008/2/7, Al Khadra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 1- When the battery is fully charged the Tablet will not only display the > regular message but will also BEEP. This way you do not have to keep > checking whether it's full or not yet. You will hear the beep. As you > know overcharging kills the ba

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Non modal dialog

2008-02-07 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 20:57 +0100, Frédéric Charrier wrote: > > > what do you mean by "normal" window ? > > > a GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL ? > > > > Yes, a popup window is only for special rare uses, like tooltips. > > if I use a GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL it appears maximized, and I can't move > it neither ch

Re: Best Wishes for you in the coming Chinese new year :)

2008-02-07 Thread Martin Grimme
Dajia, xinnian hao! Sorry, can't input Chinese characters at work. Cheers, Martin 2008/2/6, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Happy New Year of the Rat ;) > > Salut, > Sebas. > > > 2008/2/6, 黄杲 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, all: > > Tomorrow is Chinese New Year, and tonight is one