gtk clutter tearing

2009-12-29 Thread Mark Clarkson
Hi, I have made a simple animation using a clutter timeline with clutter-gtk-0.10 and clutter-1.0 but there is excessive tearing when the animation plays making the animation look terrible. I have tried none, dri and glx values for the CLUTTER_VBLANK environment variable but this seems to

Re: Smalltalk developers on N900.

2009-12-29 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 18:36 -0500, Joseph Charpak wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 15:55 -0500, Aldon Hynes wrote: I've kicked around trying to get Logo running as well as thinking about other languages. I'm interested in Ada on the devices. It looks like progress is being made on the Debian

Re: Diablo AutoBuilder - maemo-optify issue [broken]

2009-12-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Nathan Anderson nat...@andersonsplace.net writes: It appears that maemo-optify doesn't work (not sure where the --auto came from) doesn't work on the diablo builder. Looks like maemo-optify in Diablo is too old. It shouldn't be there at all, I think, but it's better to keep it

New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, i have just been instructed to reduce the size of osm2go _incl._ its depending libraries to under 500k: http://maemo.org/midcom-permalink-fd66da42f17511dea9eb9b28404387138 Guys, i really hate the fact that you come up with new rules every three days. I have already had complains about

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, sorry, the link was truncated. I am talking about: http://maemo.org/midcom-permalink-fd66da42f17511dea9eb9b28404387138713 Additional info: There already is a version in extras that is exceeding these new limits. The new version fixes some bugs. So the new version gives no disadvantage

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 29.12.2009, 13:18 +0100 schrieb Till Harbaum / Lists: http://maemo.org/midcom-permalink-fd66da42f17511dea9eb9b28404387138 Error 404: Page could not be found. Probably https://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/osm2go/0.8.1-maemo1/ Guys,

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, the page you are referring to says: The application or its dependencies ignore the recommendation to use the eMMC to install as much files as possible, filling the root partition with 500kb or more. It does not say that the _sum_ of all dependencies has to be below 500k. This rule that

Re: [SyncEvolution] SyncEvolution in Fremantle

2009-12-29 Thread Patrick Ohly
Hi! This is becoming more SyncEvolution specific. Should we continue cross-posting to maemo-developers? On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 13:53 +, Ove Kaaven wrote: Patrick Ohly skrev: I was planning to do a 0.9.2 update release in a few weeks. Should we merge your code and include the Maemo

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Attila Csipa
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 14:01:40 Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: This rule that the sum of all components also has to stay below a certain limit is new. Osm2go is below 500k and so is the goocanvas it depends on. Now this guy is talking about the fact that the sum is over 500k. Any limit that

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 13:01, Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org wrote: the page you are referring to says: The application or its dependencies ignore the recommendation to use the eMMC to install as much files as possible, filling the root partition with 500kb or more. It does not

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Attila Csipa ma...@csipa.in.rs writes: A broader question is if the 500K as a *number* should be part of the blocker paragraph. [...] I think the only sane thing to do is to look at the ratio of files in /opt to those not in /opt, and require that ratio to be at least the same as the

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Jeff Moe
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 11:03:01 Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Attila Csipa ma...@csipa.in.rs writes: A broader question is if the 500K as a *number* should be part of the blocker paragraph. [...] I think the only sane thing to do is to look at the ratio of files in /opt to those not in

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: The application or its dependencies ignore the recommendation to use the eMMC to install as much files as possible, filling the root partition with 500kb or more. It does not say that the _sum_ of all dependencies has to be below 500k. I agree, it looks

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jeff Moe on 12/29/2009 08:20 AM wrote: I don't understand why maemo-optify doesn't just move*everything* to /opt, including files under 2k etc. What advantage does it give to not have them in /opt? For instance, I ran into this problem with asterisk where it had many small sound files which

Re: gtk clutter tearing

2009-12-29 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Mark Clarkson wrote: I have made a simple animation using a clutter timeline with clutter-gtk-0.10 and clutter-1.0 but there is excessive tearing when the animation plays making the animation look terrible. I have tried none, dri and glx values for the CLUTTER_VBLANK environment

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Tim Teulings
Hallo! In sum, what is the upside of including anything but symlinks on the NAND? IMHO, it should punt everything to /opt as long as it is needed at all. Thanks for maemo-optify, it makes things so much lazier^H^H...easier. :) Symlinks take space on disk, too. I'm not sure if they

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Mohammed Hassan
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 16:57 +0100, ext Tim Teulings wrote: Hallo! In sum, what is the upside of including anything but symlinks on the NAND? IMHO, it should punt everything to /opt as long as it is needed at all. Thanks for maemo-optify, it makes things so much

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Jeff Moe
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 13:07:36 Mohammed Hassan wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 16:57 +0100, ext Tim Teulings wrote: Hallo! In sum, what is the upside of including anything but symlinks on the NAND? IMHO, it should punt everything to /opt as long as it is needed at all.

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jeff Moe on 12/29/2009 08:20 AM wrote: Symlinks take space on disk, too. I'm not sure if they take a whole block or a part of it but there is likely a limit where a links costs more space than the data itself. Is this where the 2K come from? An inode on the default file system is only 256

Re: gtk clutter tearing

2009-12-29 Thread Mark Clarkson
- Original message - Is there a way to fix this? Screen update isn't yet synched to LCD refresh.  Please file a bug about it to bugs.maemo.org (it needs support from kernel display driver, X server, SGX driver, Clutter and hildon-desktop compositor, but I guess you could file it

Re: How to change button shape?

2009-12-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi Till, How can i influence the shape of such buttons explicitely? I don't think you can influence the shape explicitly. This is done completely via Gtk theming. The theming is defined here: /usr/share/themes/default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc If you look for example for fremantle-button-group-box you

Re: gtk clutter tearing

2009-12-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Eero Tamminen on 12/29/2009 09:17 AM wrote: because Gtk doesn't have any support for Vsync. Gtk doesn't need to support Vsync. Qt won't magically fix this problem either. Only the compositor needs to support Vsync. Once it does then *all* 2D operations will be tear-free. Gtk, Qt,

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, it's likely wait too late for such a question, but why doesn't just /opt/bin, /opt/share etc exist with the system looking into those paths as well? Noone would have to care about optification then, no symlinks would be required and most packages could just be optified by configure

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Dienstag 29 Dezember 2009 schrieb Eero Tamminen: Where this 500kB figure for these packages come from? As long as there's no indication whether the limit itself is meant to be interpreted as logical or physical memory space there's imho no point of discussing what this guy actually

Re: How to change button shape?

2009-12-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Dienstag 29 Dezember 2009 schrieb Cornelius Hald: The theming is defined here: /usr/share/themes/default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc If you look for example for fremantle-button-group-box you will find a style which defines those toggle buttons which are only rounded at the outer left and right

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Dienstag 29 Dezember 2009 schrieb Andrew Flegg * you maintain both libgoocanvas3 and osm2go Still this would require additional work i'd like to avoid. * neither are optified (according to the comments) Osm2go is of course optified, otherwise it wouldn't already be in extras. Just

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 19:49, Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org wrote: Am Dienstag 29 Dezember 2009 schrieb Andrew Flegg   * you maintain both libgoocanvas3 and osm2go Still this would require additional work i'd like to avoid. Well, the creation of debian/optify containing the one word

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Jeff Moe
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 16:49:21 Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: Now, on to solving the problem, have you tried putting auto in debian/optify? If so, did both packages continue to work after being auto-optified by the builder (or maemo-build-deb in Scratchbox, if you prefer). Why should

how to hide libs project etc.

2009-12-29 Thread Kimitake
Hi, I'm planning to release a package that requires some libs and other relating projects, so I will upload them to auto build and extras-devel. But I'm wondering if I can hide some of them from application manager list, because the user needs to select the main project only. Is it possible ? If

Re: how to hide libs project etc.

2009-12-29 Thread Kimitake
Sorry, I found it could be controlled by debian/control's section. Regards, Kimitake On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Kimitake kimit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm planning to release a package that requires some libs and other relating projects, so I will upload them to auto build and

Re: how to hide libs project etc.

2009-12-29 Thread Jeff Moe
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:40:34 Kimitake wrote: Hi, I'm planning to release a package that requires some libs and other relating projects, so I will upload them to auto build and extras-devel. But I'm wondering if I can hide some of them from application manager list, because the

portrait view of Hildon-desktop

2009-12-29 Thread bocheng cheng
Hi Everyone: Does maemo5 support portrait view by now ? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: [SyncEvolution] SyncEvolution in Fremantle

2009-12-29 Thread Ove Kaaven
Patrick Ohly skrev: This is becoming more SyncEvolution specific. Should we continue cross-posting to maemo-developers? Dunno, I wasn't subscribed to the syncevolution list yet. I suppose I should subscribe to it. But I think some Maemo developers may have some interest in the progress of this

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org writes: it's likely wait too late for such a question, but why doesn't just /opt/bin, /opt/share etc exist with the system looking into those paths as well? My gut feeling is that this is not feasible in the short term, and not good enough for the

Re: [SyncEvolution] SyncEvolution in Fremantle

2009-12-29 Thread Ove Kaaven
Ove Kaaven skrev: This is already possible, but we aren't sure yet how to maintain the different profiles. Right now, src/syncclient_sample_config.xml contains a contacts field list (internal representation) and vCard profile that is used both for the SyncML peer and the local backends, with