Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-15 Thread Angel Perles
Hi, I think the point of view of Niels is the best way, but with some considerations. I would like: - an open platform - based on (de facto) standards - the posibility of earning money with it, so no a geek/exclusive/niche platform In this moment Meego is out of my consideratons. We have

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-14 Thread Dawid Lorenz
On 13 February 2011 22:59, Jeremiah C. Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.comwrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:01:23PM +0100, Klaus Umbach wrote: On 11.02.11 13:25, Demetris wrote: How does this affect the future of Maemo on Nokia's devices? Maemo is dead and Meego will die, too. Don't

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-14 Thread Nils Faerber
Am 14.02.2011 11:54, schrieb Dawid Lorenz: On 13 February 2011 22:59, Jeremiah C. Foster jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com mailto:jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:01:23PM +0100, Klaus Umbach wrote: Even if the community supports Maemo/Meego, there will be no new

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-14 Thread Nils Faerber
Am 14.02.2011 14:27, schrieb Hämäläinen Kimmo: On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 13:07 +0100, ext Nils Faerber wrote: ... I am very sceptical about all that and don't really buy that redefintion of MeeGo within Nokia as a learning platform for future disruptions. Even if it somehow survives within Nokia

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-14 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Hämäläinen Kimmo wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 13:07 +0100, ext Nils Faerber wrote: ... I am very sceptical about all that and don't really buy that redefintion of MeeGo within Nokia as a learning platform for future disruptions. Even if it somehow survives within Nokia as a side project

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-13 Thread ds
Yes, both is dead! When I bought my 770 five or six years ago, I hoped for a tablet beeing the direction of development. Obviously it wasn't and I had to buy an iPad last year. And immediately I loved the toolchain, I always missed for my N770, N800, N810, N900. From an application developers

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-13 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:01:23PM +0100, Klaus Umbach wrote: On 11.02.11 13:25, Demetris wrote: How does this affect the future of Maemo on Nokia's devices? Maemo is dead and Meego will die, too. Don't be so sure. MeeGo is a set of vertical Linux distros. There are other phone

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-13 Thread Ian Stirling
Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:01:23PM +0100, Klaus Umbach wrote: Don't be silly. Intel has to _compete_ with Android - Android doesn't run on x86 hardware! MeeGo is Intel's embedded OS, and they are spending 100 million US to support just the IVI vertical. I think

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-12 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 13:25 -0500, Demetris wrote: How does this affect the future of Maemo on Nokia's devices? For quite a while the future

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-12 Thread Ian Stirling
Andrew Flegg wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 13:25 -0500, Demetris wrote: How does this affect the future of Maemo on Nokia's devices? I've

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilson
Added to the promise of the CSSU, and related efforts, as well as the increasing potential freedom both from reverse engineered bits, as well as documentation that should have been found ages ago, but for various reasons hasn't been - and code 'newly' released for meego - the platform could be an

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-11 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 13:25 -0500, Demetris wrote: How does this affect the future of Maemo on Nokia's devices? For quite a while the future has been MeeGo instead of Maemo, hence no changes to *Maemo* on Nokia devices. andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster)

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-11 Thread Sivan Greenberg
AFAIK it is in the hands of the Maemo community no? -Sivan On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 13:25 -0500, Demetris wrote: How does this affect the future of Maemo on Nokia's devices? For quite a while the future has been MeeGo

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-11 Thread Sivan Greenberg
Hm, council that is. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Sivan Greenberg si...@omniqueue.com wrote: AFAIK it is in the hands of the Maemo community no? -Sivan On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 13:25 -0500, Demetris wrote: How

Re: Nokia and MS

2011-02-11 Thread Klaus Umbach
On 11.02.11 13:25, Demetris wrote: How does this affect the future of Maemo on Nokia's devices? Maemo is dead and Meego will die, too. Although Maemo is the plattform, that suits my personal needs best of all, I lost hope, there will be a successor to my N900. I think I just give up and get