Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-03 Thread Nils Faerber
Dave Neary schrieb: > Hi, > > Faheem Pervez wrote: >> You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're >> already violating the GPL. > > I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you > that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all > Goo

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-03 Thread Mohammed Hassan
Oops. Forgot to CC him. On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 14:33 +0200, ext e...@okerson.com wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Faheem Pervez wrote: > >> You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're > >> already violating the GPL. > > > Dave Neary wrote: > > I don't know the details of the situation.

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-03 Thread Mohammed Hassan
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 14:33 +0200, ext e...@okerson.com wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Faheem Pervez wrote: > >> You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're > >> already violating the GPL. > > > Dave Neary wrote: > > I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you

RE: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi, >-Original Message- >From: ext Frantisek Dufka [mailto:duf...@seznam.cz] >Sent: 02 July, 2009 15:54 >To: Dave Neary >Cc: Faheem Pervez; maemo-developers@maemo.org; Tikka Jarmo >(Nokia-D/Helsinki) >Subject: Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Dave Neary wrote: > I've seen people say that Nokia doesn't even distribute the initfs > tools. If that's the case, there wouldn't be any GPL violation. Let's move detailed discussion back to the bug report. Quick and hopefully correct summary is that Nokia is distributing modified uclibc (EABI

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread ed
> Hi, > > Faheem Pervez wrote: >> You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're >> already violating the GPL. > Dave Neary wrote: > I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you > that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all > Google

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Faheem Pervez
Hi, I'm certainly far from being a licensing expert. But there is a paragraph on a page at the busybox site which does make it clear wrt busybox and releasing source: http://www.busybox.net/license.html I see a /mnt/initfs/bin/busybox but I don't see the source available for the busybox 1.00 used

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Faheem Pervez wrote: > You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're > already violating the GPL. I don't know the details of the situation. I just want to remind you that the GPL is a distribution licence. That's why we don't get all Google's changes to the Linux kernel an

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Faheem Pervez
(Well, s/you/Nokia/) On 7/2/09, Faheem Pervez wrote: > You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're > already violating the GPL. > > On 7/2/09, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: >> And I do not >> belive we have any plans to release toolchain for initfs development for >> Diablo a

Re: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Faheem Pervez
You sure you have a choice in the matter? Considering how you're already violating the GPL. On 7/2/09, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: > And I do not > belive we have any plans to release toolchain for initfs development for > Diablo anymore. > > Cheers, > //Jarmo > _

RE: closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-02 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi, >-Original Message- >From: ext Frantisek Dufka [mailto:duf...@seznam.cz] >Sent: 02 July, 2009 09:46 >Fremantle and Diablo released > >jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: > >> BTW I think flasher is the only closed source tool we have >in maemo development environment. Or at least I do not

closed tools, Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Frantisek Dufka
jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote: > BTW I think flasher is the only closed source tool we have in maemo > development environment. Or at least I do not know any other binary only tool > :). > I think gcc/uclibc toolchain for initfs development would qualify but it is much worse here, we even don't