On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:56:56PM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> * Correcting the content, if it's old or inappropriate
I'd like to make a request for specific up-to-date content.
I have tried several times to install scratchbox and other soeftware for
maemo development on my Debian system, and ha
Hi Hendrik,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have tried several times to install scratchbox and other soeftware for
> maemo development on my Debian system, and have not succeeded. There
> seem to be instructions and relevant repositories secreted in carious
> places on the web. However, when f
I have just installed Maemo Mapper , make it work with the internal GPS of my
N810 ( thanks to
morpheuz ) and configure to display French messages and ... I love it !
But I have two questions about it :
1 - The maps I have downloaded have been stored on the main memory of the N 810
I have
I flashed the latest version of maemo (the last one before Diablo). I've
also installed a lot of extra software. Now the N810 resets itself a lot
but I can't discern why or how to fix it.
Rick B.
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 02:53:37PM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi Hendrik,
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have tried several times to install scratchbox and other soeftware for
> > maemo development on my Debian system, and have not succeeded. There
> > seem to be instructions and rele
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:09 -0400, ext Rick Bilonick wrote:
> I flashed the latest version of maemo (the last one before Diablo). I've
> also installed a lot of extra software. Now the N810 resets itself a lot
> but I can't discern why or how to fix it.
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:58 AM, COURTAUD Didier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have just installed Maemo Mapper , make it work with the internal GPS of my
> N810 ( thanks to
> morpheuz ) and configure to display French messages and ... I love it !
>
> But I have two questions about it :
>
> 1 - T
-[ Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:15:22PM -0600, Denis Dimick ]
> I don't think you will see apt-get upgrade spawn child processes running
But what about apt-get _update_
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Cedric,
I fairly sure that apt-get update will/does spawn a number of http process
to download the Packages file, however, I have no idea how to change this.
I've looked in the documentation for apt-get and it's not defined, or I just
missed it.
Denis
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:27 AM, cedric cell
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
>
This is not helpful and in fact is inflammatory. When one has a
problem with a device it is helpful to find out if others are having
the same problem, and may have al
I have to agree that RTFM is a painful response,
Here's what I'd do.
1. Backup all your data.
2. Restore to the current version you are running.
3. DON"T restore your applications. Just restore your data.
4. Install one application at a time until you see the same behavior your
seeing now. - Keep
Have you tried uninstalling the additional software you added,
one-at-a-time, to determine if one of the third party packages is
causing your problem?
What steps have you taken to investigate the issue?
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On 7/15/08, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor
"ext Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
>>
>
> This is not helpful and in fact is inflammatory.
I have no clue what inflammatory means (and I'm too lazy to find out
Mark,
I went to the link and read it. I actually feel it is helpful. This week I
submitted 4 bug reports for both software and the OS.
The author stated his system was resetting and that he had lots of software
installed. Obvious questions would be if there's any particular action that
causes
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 09:36 -0600, ext Mark wrote:
> RTFM is *never* an acceptable response.
In fact my response was "Learn how to describe problems".
Far more useful than fixing any specific bug, imho.
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Hi Kalle,
Kalle Valo wrote:
> "ext Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> When one has a problem with a device it is helpful to find out if
>> others are having the same problem, and may have already solved it.
> So basically you want others do all the work for you? It doesn't work
> that way. Tr
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 09:36 -0600, ext Mark wrote:
>
>> RTFM is *never* an acceptable response.
>
> In fact my response was "Learn how to describe problems".
>
> Far more useful than fixing any specific bug, imho.
>
... by
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Kalle Valo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "ext Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
>>>
>>
>> This is not helpful and in fact is in
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:57 -0600, ext Mark wrote:
> ... by RTFM-ing something that has nothing to do with the problem.
I think the message "do ut des" was quite clear.
Make an effort to explain your problem and you might be helped.
End of transmission.
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A a Flamewar, can we do Vi vers. Emacs next?
Ducks and runs away..
Denis
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:57 -0600, ext Mark wrote:
>
> > ... by RTFM-ing something that has nothing to do with the problem.
>
> I think the message
"ext Dave Neary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi Kalle,
Hello Dave,
>>> When one has a problem with a device it is helpful to find out if
>>> others are having the same problem, and may have already solved it.
>
>
>
>> So basically you want others do all the work for you? It doesn't work
>> th
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you sure you haven't misinterpreted Mark here?
>
> It seems to me like the original question was "Is this happening to
> anyone else?" which is a reasonable question to ask on a users list.
> Asking him to search Bugzilla
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 09:20 -0600, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:58 AM, COURTAUD Didier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have just installed Maemo Mapper , make it work with the internal
> > GPS of my N810 ( thanks to > morpheuz ) and configure to display
> > French messages and ... I lo
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Kalle Valo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "ext Dave Neary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi Kalle,
>
> Hello Dave,
>
When one has a problem with a device it is helpful to find out if
others are having the same problem, and may have already solved it.
>>
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Kalle Valo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still I think the original poster should do more than just say that
> "my device reboots". He should explain what version he is using, did
> he install any applications, what kind of network environment he has
> etc. It would
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 19:25 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
> "ext Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
> >
> > This is not helpful and in fact is inflammatory.
>
> I h
Let's try again.
ext Rick Bilonick wrote:
> I flashed the latest version of maemo (the last one before Diablo). I've
> also installed a lot of extra software. Now the N810 resets itself a lot
> but I can't discern why or how to fix it.
With that description the shortest way to solve your problem
Ooohh, that would be a good one. J
Nick.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently
A a Flamewar, can we do Vi vers. Emacs
ext Karsten Bräckelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 19:25 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
>> "ext Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
>> >
>
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 01:06:36PM +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote:
> > Related but different question: Can the N810 internal GPS be used by
> > other devices as a bluetooth GPS?
>
> at least it should be possible to connect to its gpsd via IP.
My solution a while back was to configure /etc/bluetoo
ext Kalle Valo wrote:
> That's a very good summary how a bug owner should behave. Maybe you
> should write an essay about that? :)
Instead, he and others are writing https://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Stock_answers
You (plural) might want to give a hand there and give a rest to your
mailboxes. :)
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Mark,
Have you ever considered following a little of your own advice and
ignoring the RTFM replies? A lot of the threads you participate in
seem to descend into flamewars. If you had simply ignored Igor's
response, then either the user would've followed and read the URL,
come back with mor
Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ext Kalle Valo wrote:
>
>> That's a very good summary how a bug owner should behave. Maybe you
>> should write an essay about that? :)
>
> Instead, he and others are writing https://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Stock_answers
I guess the idea is to make it easy to cop
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 22:07 +0300, ext Kalle Valo wrote:
> Now that I'm categorised as a bad boy, hehe, I have to improve my
> public image and do my share on the WLAN part ;)
Since I have no public image left to defend, instead I'll take the
chance to point to something that is part of our inter
Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 22:07 +0300, ext Kalle Valo wrote:
>
>> Now that I'm categorised as a bad boy, hehe, I have to improve my
>> public image and do my share on the WLAN part ;)
>
> Since I have no public image left to defend
:)
> After some random sam
On Jul 15, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Igor Stoppa wrote:
After some random sampling of bugs present in the external bugzilla, I
don't see such template being used in the bug creation.
Why?
Well, there is a template (not exactly the same, but very similar)
being used. It looks like:
SOFTWARE VERS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> I have tried several times to install scratchbox and other soeftware for
>>> maemo development on my Debian system, and have not succeeded. There
>>> seem to be instructions and relevant repositories secreted in carious
>>> places on the
It was there when I posted a bug with OS2008 yesterday and I used it. The
template is a very good one - thanks, Igor.
Nick.
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To: ext Kalle Valo
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I agree with that.
Nick.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kalle Valo
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 13:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)
Igor Stoppa
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 20:43:03 Kalle Valo wrote:
> Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yeah, that would be a good addition. One minor point before any copies
>
> it:
> > FREQUENCY OF OCCURRENCE:
> > (always, less than 1/10, 5/10, 9/10)
>
> Remove the word "always" from the template. The rea
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