On Mar 6, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
> 2009/3/6 Ryan Abel :
>> On Mar 6, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
>>
>>> of course you still need to have a fully charged battery in !
>>> If the charger fails, then the battery kicks i
rd. Either way, any benefits certainly aren't worth the risks.
Charge your tablet fully, unplug the charger, then flash.
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with the devices.
You obviously don't know me very well, then. You also, clearly, aren't
really interested in having a rational discussion here.
Thanks for the flames.
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aulty item that breaks in a millon pieces in the first
>> week of use.
>>
>
> The outrage is due to the *fact* that the device doesn't live up to
> its PR.
_What_ "PR"?
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On Mar 6, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
> 2009/3/6 Ryan Abel :
>
>> On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote:
>>
>>> the subject line says it: I can't get my N800 into flashing
>>> mode
>>> by holding dow
er "flashing mode" unless it's
connected to USB)? If so, are you sure you have the right "Home" key
(it's the one with the house on it)?
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ser apps? There's one, I think, and
that's "Map". Maybe you could make a case for Rhapsody, but everything
else works just fine without additional effort.
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On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Mark wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:48:26AM -0700, Mark wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Ryan Abel
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Mar 5, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Mark wr
>> Marius Gedminas
>>
>
> And *that* is the summary of the state of the tablets: they're *great*
> for hackers, but as consumer end-user devices, not so much.
And? This is exactly how Nokia's positioned them, so it sounds like
th
On Feb 20, 2009, at 5:14 AM, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
> 2009/2/20 Ryan Abel :
>> On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Wayne Fiori wrote:
>>
>>> Does Gizmo use less resources than Skype? Gizmo's sound quality was
>>> considerably lower than Skype's back i
On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Wayne Fiori wrote:
> Does Gizmo use less resources than Skype? Gizmo's sound quality was
> considerably lower than Skype's back in Gizmo v4 (PC). Is that still
> the case?
It does if you connect with rtcomm. . . .
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> [citation needed]
Let's make this even clearer. ;) No, no such option ever existed. The
USB port is not wired up to charge the battery, so please don't spread
lies.
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or real".
> Gizom has video calling, while Skype did not last I tried.
Well, the nice thing about Gizmo is that is uses free protocols
(Jabber, SIP) so you can use any Jabber or SIP client to connect to
its network (like rtcomm). Unlike Skype, which requires you to use
their client (whi
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If I remember correctly Nokia talked about April 2009 for the release of Maemo
5.
http://ovenordstrom.blogspot.com/2008/09/maemo-5-future-for-nokias-internet.html
(blogspam?)
You do not. Nokia has made no announcements about the next tablet.__
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Tim Ashman wrote:
> I took a look, and it is marked as Low or won't do. It is a shame since that
> is a show stopper for me. I've been using the web interface on the tablet
> but I now just have been ssh'ing to my home machine and running kmail
> remotely to che
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Gary wrote:
> Thanks for the useful links -- they're much more detailed than the
> Wikipedia entry on Maemo. I sometimes yearn for the days when one
> could find such information solely on Usenet, mailing lists, or FTP
> sites.
>
Well, having written most of the
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:35 PM, John Holmblad
wrote:
> what is the url to the www page that documents the new features and
> improvements that are contained in the latest upgrade to OS2008? I
> cannot seem to find anything at the Nokia www site for OS2008.
>
There never having been one in the pa
Also, please don't unnecessarily cross-post. I know everybody thinks
THEIR issue is so important that it requires spamming, but it's really
not, so please send it only to the appropriate list. Which, in this
case, is maemo-users.
Thanks! :)
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Andrea Grandi wrote:
> If you try to load Facebook.com website, the situation is even worse:
> it takes about 85% CPU simply doing nothing.
>
Is it _actually_ doing nothing, or do you just _think_ it's doing
nothing and, in fact, it's _actually_ running a ton of
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Dave Neary wrote:
> Sometimes, the server-side cache serves up an empty page
> (it has some problems which have not been resolved),
It's not Drupal is it? I ask because I've recently deployed a Drupal
instance (PHP) that's a subsite of my company's main site (J2EE) a
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Peter Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Small buglet: the page says "switch on your tablet while holding the
> Home-button (N800)" but I couldn't find any documentation which referred
> to a "home button". I guessed it referred to the middle button of the
> upper r
sn't
actually market them. I've yet to see anybody convincingly back up the
claim that a "bunch of Linux" is required to use the device "as
advertised", but this argument seems to be made up mostly of emotion,
and I've had it more times than I care to remember, so I'm quite
certain I know what the result of this one will be. Feel free to prove
me wrong, though.
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On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> "ext Ryan Abel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> Didn't the Application manager log provide enough information?
>>>
>>> (And if not, what was missing from it and could you file a bug abo
On Nov 24, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext Mark Haury wrote:
>> Ryan Abel wrote:
>>>> Yes, upgrade to Diablo, it has a much more useful Application
>>>> Manager. :)
>>
>> ...and a bunch of other stuff is broken that p
gs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3788
Editing anonymously over https shouldn't present a problem. . . .
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oted, primarily, for its god-
awful js compatibility and performance. :)
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On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Peter Flynn wrote:
> Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> Ignore trolls and upgrade. :) Seriously, you get a whole 70 extra
>> megahertz for _free_, not to mention improvements pretty much
>> _everywhere_.
>
> A lot depends on what the improvements a
lt of your blurting is usually threads exactly like this one.
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On Nov 22, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Mark Haury wrote:
> Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>>> Yes, upgrade to Diablo, it has a much more useful Application
>>> Manager. :)
>
> ...and a bunch of other stuff is broken that previously worked...
"bunch of stuff" isn't
On Nov 22, 2008, at 5:08 PM, Peter Flynn wrote:
> Ryan Abel wrote:
>> Yes, upgrade to Diablo, it has a much more useful Application
>> Manager. :)
>
> I haven't got that far yet. Having avoided OS2008 on the information
> on
> most forums that it basically b
ize on Extras came from the
community and maemo.org. Nokia was not involved. ;)
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are working fine, so we're down to two culprits
something local to the user or one of the half-dozen other
repositories I'm sure they're using. . . .
> Even if a repository is gone or has
> a problem, it should skip it and finish the refresh, with a message
> that
On Nov 21, 2008, at 8:00 PM, sebastian maemo wrote:
> 2008/11/22 Ryan Abel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Nobody's arguing that moving things to the maemo repositories is
> bad,
> > the issue is the process.
>
> The specific question was and still is th
is
that one of them is gone for good.
Actually, the Application Manager lies. Even though it says the old
list is still being used, it actually means that the old list is still
being used for the repositories that failed to refresh. The
repositories that d
On Nov 21, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Ryan Abel wrote:
> On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:24 PM
>
>> The descriptions are frequently insufficient to figure out what a
>> package is or does.
>
> This is a packager issue, maemo.org has no control over how people
> describe their packa
On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Mark wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Ryan Abel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Clearly transitions like these can cause some short-term instability
>> that makes things harder for specific individuals, but the overall
>> effect for
In fact, the first major fruits of those
efforts went live just on Monday.[2]
. . . and, no, the repositories are not similarly affected.
repository.maemo.org has a massive akamai cache that keeps it running
quickly.
[1]https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Fast_Server
[2]http://bergie.iki.fi
ora Application
Manager included logs, but you might poke around its menu a bit).
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ing FUD instead of looking at the facts:
[1]https://wiki.maemo.org/Extras
[2]https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Reducing_number_of_external_repositories
[3]https://wiki.maemo.org/Extras_repository_process_definition
[4]https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Consolidation_of_Extras
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On Nov 18, 2008, at 5:02 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ryan Abel wrote:
>> On Nov 18, 2008, at 4:16 AM, COURTAUD Didier wrote:
>>> I tried to look at the new Package Categories that have been
>>> announced
>>> and for that I load
>>>
ing Firefox 3 on Red Hat Linux
Reload and make sure you clear your cache. . . . (ctrl-shft-r)
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t; removing features in order to lighten the load, then there's no point.
> Complete compatibility and functionality is necessary, and incomplete
> versions are more frustrating than useful.
Such are the pitfalls of working with limited hardware.
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On Nov 2, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Leonardo F. Fontenelle wrote:
> Em Dom, 2008-11-02 às 18:27 -0500, Ryan Abel escreveu:
>>
>> Or how about the up-to-date version https://wiki.maemo.org/
>> Bluetooth_PAN ?
>>
>> Though I believe the dummy fixes are bundled with 36-5.
-to-date version https://wiki.maemo.org/
Bluetooth_PAN ?
Though I believe the dummy fixes are bundled with 36-5.
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until we see what the hardware is capable of really.
Considering the hardware is already doing 720p with only NEON
optimizations, well. . . .
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his discussion has been had many times before, though, so I suggest
anybody interested visit the mailing list archives.
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On Oct 29, 2008, at 5:40 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
> ext Ryan Abel wrote:
>> Well, when Nokia is done with Diablo to the point that they wont even
>> apply a simple patch like this[1], then I'd say future plans are
>> pretty
>> important.
>
> It's not that &
ture plans are
pretty important.
[1]https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3470
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said, I'm fairly certain Nokia doesn't even know for certain
whether Fremantle will be supported on the OMAP2 generation yet. Let's
wait until it's decided one way or the other before we start throwing
stones.
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tells me it's a city in Australia, which seems not relevant.
Your google-fu is very weak.
The first four results are all relevant:
http://www.google.com/search?ie=utf8&oe=utf8&q=fremantle+maemo
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> tablet game, and if they didn't start out with something more cutting
> edge, that's their problem, and shouldn't be ours.
So, using one of the fastest ARM SoCs at the time of release doesn't
count as usi
On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Urivan Saaib wrote:
> I've been playing with Diablo on my n770 for several months. It has
> been
> fairly stable.
No, you've been playing with Chinook. Diablo is not available for the
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What about something like powerlaunch? Music playback is a pretty
common use case, and having to take the tablet out of your pocket to
change the volume or the song is a pain. Some hooks into dsme/mce so
you can issue commands with the screen turned off would be a nice
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Archos is a bad example. I doubt they'd ever be interested in anything
than their own proprietary, accessory peddling mess.
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aScript improvement, not necessarily a general
performance improvement. Fennec is only faster because it is based on
a newer version of Firefox. MicroB will get faster, too (it already
has over the past two SSU updates), as it comes inline with Firefox
trunk.
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On Oct 20, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote:
> Where is my "Documents" folder?
/home/user/MyDocs/.documents[1]
[1]http://wiki.maemo.org/MyDocs_folder
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dure), and, perhaps, a cloning wizard, then things would be
much simpler.
[1]http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3745
[2]http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_Community_distribution
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e to the conclusion that it wasn't worth
the time and effort (and suffering for their support staff) for their
average user's use-case.
Clear enough?
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On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Denis Dimick wrote:
> Maybe I'm confusing it with the lower bar that lists words you can
> pick from when your typing in a URL.
Which is a global feature completely unrelated to MicroB. Toggle it in
input setting in the control panel.
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ssu
> update
> shows up in app manager, until whoever do those alternate boot
> systems can
> get back up to speed.
Personally, I'm hoping the N900 ships with a NAND-free 256MB RAM PoP
and moves the OS to a big eMMC (2-32GB).
Problems solved.
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it, then bad things, but if the tablet is
powered off, and you're using a machine that can recognize ext2/3,
then you just copy as usual.
Both tablets have two mass storage devices (the N810's just happens to
be soldered on), so use one SD as a permanent boot device, and the
other fo
yboard, it changed the behavior of MicroB and
> made it useless as well.
Were you a responsible tester? Did you file a bug?[1] Or do you just
expect devs to fix things even when they don't know there's a problem?
[1]http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
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perhaps the Mozilla team is clueless about the platform?
Nah, the guys working on Fennec aren't clueless, they just don't have
unlimited free time, so getting it working with a device that has a
hardware keyboard to make their job easier was probably a priority. ;)
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the system over multiple partitions"-
methods (it also provides you with a bootable backup).
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s the newest "vintage" has the upper hand.
Considering that the OMAP3 in the Archos 5 has easily 2-3x the
performance of the OMAP2420 in our tablets, yes, the differences
illustrated here are certainly CPU-bound.
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It should be noted that what this comes down to, really, is a CPU
speed comparison and not a useful browser comparison.
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er concern though...
Honestly, if your system is that broken, Application manager isn't
going to help you much. Better to say yourself the frustration and
just reflash. . . .
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to get yourself in trouble. You don't need it and you don't want it,
so don't use it.
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ic, again?
[1]http://lists.maemo.org/mailman//listinfo/maemo-users
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ash: SHA1
>
>Hy all,
>
> I juste discover the last Internet device from BenQ :
> http://benq.com/products/MobileInternetDevice/?product=1402&page=specifications
>
> Atom powered with 512M of RAM, and it run with Midinux ...
>
> what do you think about it ?
Plea
uot; when installing this update.
I can't explain it myself.
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there's no public images available for RX-48.
The RX-34 and RX-44 images don't have the stuff needed for the RX-48,
so getting them running on the RX-48 isn't going to be an option like
it was for the RX-34 back in November with the RX-48 image.
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on't know if that would work, but
> this
> is a "heads up" to those who, like me, did the same to get Flash to
> work
> with Youtube and Myspace etc.
Just uninstall the package from Application manager and all will be
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bably be quite affordable.
SDHC specifies up to 32GB, but the hardware tops out at 2048GB. I'm
not sure why it's at 32GB at the moment, but it certainly wont require
hardware changes (and shouldn't require software changes as far as I
can guess).
By the way
On Sep 27, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Eric Warnke wrote:
> It's in garage.
>
> https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=browser
That's old. tablet-browser-ui is indeed closed.
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On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Ryan Abel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> There is a project to combine the Bluetooth and WiFi applets into a
>>> single applet (an "Advanced
th and WiFi applets into a
single applet (an "Advanced Connectivity" of sorts), but it hasn't
really gotten off the ground lacking anybody with real knowledge of
libconic and the connectivity interfaces, and, unfortunately, because
both applets are closed there are no examples
ass 4. I have no clue
> if class 2
> would be to slow or class 6 would be a significant boost, but cannot
> complain
> about my class 4 card.
Class 6. All the decent cards are cheap these days, anyway.
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ntinued or not.
> In fact, it's still available from Nokia UK's shopping site.
>
> I asked Nokia repeatedly, they wouldn't answer me.
Nokia doesn't announce discontinuations. They just sort of slowly stop
selling them and don't tell anybody.
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On Sep 19, 2008, at 1:12 PM, Denis Dimick wrote:
> The n800 has been discontinued, about a year ago. You may find one
> on e-bay, or just pick up the n810.
Er, year? The N810 hasn't even been _out_ a year. More like 4-6 months.
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On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:42 AM, Justin Slootsky wrote:
> How do I reset my Nokia 770 back to "as delivered" ??
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
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#x27;s a proprietary Microsoft technology; I'm not aware of even
>> how
>> you'd *begin* to attempt to bring ActiveX controls to the N810.
>
> using Wine, maybe?
You are aware that Wine is x86-only, right?
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s (reduced battery
life, potentially, being one of them). Installing a package is both
simpler and safer. ;)
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On Sep 11, 2008, at 5:30 AM, Michael Stepanov wrote:
> If you activate R&D mode (using flasher, for example:
>
> sudo ./flasher-3.0 --enable-rd-mode -R
>
> ) you can use a command
>
> sudo gainroot
>
> To get root privileges.
R&D mode is the wrong way to go about getting root access.
Install bec
On Sep 10, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Mark wrote:
> Once again, nice theory, but very far from reality. In reality, *very*
> few open source products approach anything like the reliability,
> usability, versatility or feature set of their commercial competition.
> Yes, a few projects beat their commercial r
On Sep 8, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:
> I just wanted to write that I don't think Andre Klapper wanted to be
> rude and force others to follow his own ideas.
> I might be wrong, of course, but having followed his work on Maemo as
> bugmaster and having read several of his mails, I
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eugene Antimirov wrote:
>> May be there are some other(free) web page
>> sanitizing proxies?
>>
> I'm not sure if this still works but one used to be able to go to
> m.google.com, search for a site by FQDN, then view the page(s) san
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> "ext R. G. Newbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > These along with many other packages (chinese-font, clink-av0, gnuchess
> > for example) are listed as dependencies/requirements of 'OS2008 feature
> > upgrade 1:4.2008.23-14'.
> >
> > Is there any way to remove t
> But your hint is good. Is there a history of the nokia repositories used for
> upgrades?
>
Well, uh, diablo/ is the upgrade path for 23-14 and diablo-1/ for 30-2. Other
than that, no other updates have been pushed via the repo.
I do wonder why Nokia though it would be a better idea to have a
r
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Uwe Kaminski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But i can't browse trough the Nokia system catalogue:
> http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo-1/
Well, you can probably get all the packages you need back by adding
http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/update
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Christer Eliasson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So there is no possibility to mount the internal flashcard as a /home/user
> on the N810 ?
> Or even move the /usr to a external flashcard ?
>
Well, you COULD, but it's a stupid idea.
> Would be a nice hack todo enabl
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> I am trying to install several updates but I get a message that I don't
> have enough memory. One of the updates is an OS2008 update. Do I have
> any options other than removing apps to free up space? Is there any way
> to store apps in the internal memory or an exte
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The spam problem can be solved using a captcha.
Well, here we are almost over a month and a half later still with no
real solution and still with just a few people fighting the spam.
As https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?
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> This was meant to be a bug report, but since the bugtracker is
> following the fate of the repositories (i.e. it's currently borked)
> here it goes.
>
> SOFTWARE VERSION:
> 4.2008.23-14
>
>
> The new combo browser/browserd is very unreliable. Things that happened to
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:38 PM, ScottW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I keep seeing people saying they have 2 8gig SD chips in their n810, yet I
> only see a slot for 1. Where does the 2nd one go?
That'd be an N800. The N810's internal card is a permanent 2GB.
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does the rotation function in Advanced Backlight depend on something
>> else being installed? The screenshot shows the setting and the
>> description mentions it, b
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Matt Emson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Holmblad wrote:
>
> Log in as root (install becomeroot deb and type "sudo gainroot" in
> terminal.. or do the ssh trick, whatever you find easier.)
>
becomeroot is deprecated. rootsh should be used instead, as it is
avai
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> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does the rotation function in Advanced Backlight depend on something
> > else being installed? The screenshot shows the setting and the
> > description mentions it, but it doesn't have that option o
On 7/22/08, tj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am befuddled and confused by all of these names. I have OS2008 loaded
> on my N800, so
> What is Diablo?
> What is Chinook?
>
Nokia's codenames are no different from Apple's big cats. Except Nokia
uses winds.
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