Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-13 Thread Tony Green
On Friday 13 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reflashed last weekend, and have only added OpenSSH and FBREADER since then.  I could part with OpenSSH easily in the short run. Ssh hasn't been a problem for me. I have FBReader constantly loaded and my server polls my N800 every 5

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-12 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Dyer-Bennet wrote: you can have fun and google for details both in this ml and itt, but to spare you the search, you have to: -flash the standard image we release (not the leaked diablo for example) I'm on a standard image (and have never been on anything else). Currently

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-11 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Tue, June 10, 2008 13:16, Igor Stoppa wrote: you can have fun and google for details both in this ml and itt, but to spare you the search, you have to: -flash the standard image we release (not the leaked diablo for example) I'm on a standard image (and have never been on anything else).

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-10 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Mon, June 9, 2008 04:12, Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 02:13:03PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:14:27PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I'm voting for software. I see ke-recv occupying 50% of cpu and 25% of

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-10 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Dyer-Bennet wrote: If I'm not mistaken, ke-recv is the thing that mounts SD cards. It does also some other similar things, but basically it should be idle as should hald-* processes. Thanks. I seem to get various processes eating immense amounts of time and memory when the

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-10 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You should try using Offline mode from the power menu. Presence thing in statusbar uses WLAN now and then, there are also some WLAN APs with bad power management. If that doesn't help, then you could try closing all

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-10 Thread hendrik
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:26:00AM -0600, Mark wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, You should try using Offline mode from the power menu. Presence thing in statusbar uses WLAN now and then, there are also some WLAN APs with bad power

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-10 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 10:26 -0600, ext Mark wrote: I verified the settings, and they were indeed as I reported above. Something is definitely not right. Options: -your device is broken and needs to be repaired/replaced -you are running some broken 3rd party application/library (closing apps is

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-09 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 02:13:03PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:14:27PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I'm voting for software. I see ke-recv occupying 50% of cpu and 25% of memory when nothing is happening (it's connected to

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-08 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 02:13:03PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:14:27PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I'm voting for software. I see ke-recv occupying 50% of cpu and 25% of memory when nothing is happening (it's connected to local

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-07 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:14:27PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I'm voting for software. I see ke-recv occupying 50% of cpu and 25% of memory when nothing is happening (it's connected to local wifi, no web browser open) and hald-addon-something occupying 50% of memory. If I'm not

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-07 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:14:27PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I'm voting for software. I see ke-recv occupying 50% of cpu and 25% of memory when nothing is happening (it's connected to local wifi, no web browser open) and hald-addon-something occupying 50% of

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-07 Thread Ryan Pavlik
David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:14:27PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I'm voting for software. I see ke-recv occupying 50% of cpu and 25% of memory when nothing is happening (it's connected to local wifi, no web browser open) and

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-06 Thread Daniel M German
Kevin T Neely twisted the bytes to say: Kevin On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:07:49PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: One thing I know happens now is that touching the screen turns on the backlight while locked. So sitting in the case in my bag may be turning Kevin That shouln't happen.

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-06 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:26:31AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: and it spent the day in my shoulder bag, and when I unlocked it near bedtime to read for a little while (not having touched it since I took it off the charger in the morning), the battery was down to

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-06 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:26:31AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: And relating to the ongoing integration -- possibly I'm seeing drastically shortened battery life from having both wifi and bluetooth enabled. Since they're alternative connection profiles I think it

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-06 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Andrew Daviel wrote: I hadn't realized that the AP is part of the power-saving scheme; there is a power-save option on the tablet under advanced/other in the connection manager. If unchecked, battery life drops from 100 hours to 7 hours on my APs (Dlink at home, Proxim at work). I tried

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-05 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 03:36:00PM -0600, Mark wrote: Why didn't they just force owners login to their tablet like you do in most Linux distros? If they used the same kind of login process as desktop Linux, users could choose whether to autologin if they don't care about security or require

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-05 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Wed, June 4, 2008 12:14, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:07:49PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: On Tue, June 3, 2008 07:53, Marius Gedminas wrote: The device is very good at seamless power savings, but it's possible to install buggy applications that aren't smart

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-05 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:26:31AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: and it spent the day in my shoulder bag, and when I unlocked it near bedtime to read for a little while (not having touched it since I took it off the charger in the morning), the battery was down to 3 days standby, 1 hour

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-05 Thread Mark
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 03:36:00PM -0600, Mark wrote: Why didn't they just force owners login to their tablet like you do in most Linux distros? If they used the same kind of login process as desktop Linux, users could

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-05 Thread Ryan Abel
On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:26:31AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: and it spent the day in my shoulder bag, and when I unlocked it near bedtime to read for a little while (not having touched it since I took it off the charger in the

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:26:31AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: And relating to the ongoing integration -- possibly I'm seeing drastically shortened battery life from having both wifi and bluetooth enabled. Since they're alternative connection profiles I think it should only use one at a

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-05 Thread Andrew Daviel
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Ryan Abel wrote: Just ask lcuk, connecting to an access point that doesn't support powersaving will bring your battery life down to about 2 hours. I get about 60 hours out of my N800 with Bluetooth on and wifi connected (WRT54G with tomato). I had some problems where the

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-05 Thread Ryan Abel
On Jun 5, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Andrew Daviel wrote: On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Ryan Abel wrote: Just ask lcuk, connecting to an access point that doesn't support powersaving will bring your battery life down to about 2 hours. I get about 60 hours out of my N800 with Bluetooth on and wifi connected

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-04 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Tue, June 3, 2008 07:53, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 08:34:02PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 09:47:19AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: When I hit the power button and select lock device, I get an unlock dialog on the

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-04 Thread Kevin T. Neely
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:07:49PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: One thing I know happens now is that touching the screen turns on the backlight while locked. So sitting in the case in my bag may be turning That shouln't happen. Touching the screen should no bring the backlight up.

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-04 Thread Mark
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:07:49PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: On Tue, June 3, 2008 07:53, Marius Gedminas wrote: The device is very good at seamless power savings, but it's possible to install buggy applications

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-04 Thread Dave Sherohman
(Sorry about the duplicate message, David. Accidentally replied off-list the first time.) On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:07:49PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Yesterday I started the day fully charged, and it spent the day in my shoulder bag, and when I unlocked it near bedtime to read for a

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-04 Thread Mark
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Kevin T. Neely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:07:49PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: One thing I know happens now is that touching the screen turns on the backlight while locked. So sitting in the case in my bag may be turning That

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-04 Thread Mark
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:07 AM, David Dyer-Bennet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I can probably just be careful about ssh agent and keys, I don't use it *that* much on the N800. My fallback position on the email config would be to be prepared to change the password there on short notice,

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-03 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 08:34:02PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 09:47:19AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: When I hit the power button and select lock device, I get an unlock dialog on the screen. And it *stays* on the screen, overnight, in

Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-02 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
I'm apparently confused about the various states I can leave my N800 in. When I hit the power button and select lock device, I get an unlock dialog on the screen. And it *stays* on the screen, overnight, in my bag, wherever, until I unlock the device. That's unexpected behavior; it uses power

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-02 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 09:47:19AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I'm apparently confused about the various states I can leave my N800 in. When I hit the power button and select lock device, I get an unlock dialog on the screen. And it *stays* on the screen, overnight, in my bag, wherever,

Re: Lock, sleep, power-down

2008-06-02 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 09:47:19AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I'm apparently confused about the various states I can leave my N800 in. When I hit the power button and select lock device, I get an unlock dialog on the screen. And it *stays* on the screen,