Re: [Mageia-dev] PPA-like repos

2011-07-08 Thread Funda Wang
2011/7/8 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org: There is nothing planned yet. ( we do not even have enough servers to have a shell for packagers or others :/ ) The problem I see with ppa is they lack basic quality control, they often interfere with upgrade and when they break, people blame the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Standardising the virtual Provides in -devel packages

2011-07-08 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I've had a rather vague idea about standardising the virtual provides in the distro, there should be: Provides: %{name}-devel Provides: lib%{name}-devel either both of them in _all_ packages, or one of them

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-08 Thread James Kerr
This thread has strayed far from the original question, which could be re-stated as: Should tainted free software and tainted nonfree software be commingled in a single tainted repository? Given Mageia's commitment to the promotion of free software, I believe that they should not. If Mageia

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates testing

2011-07-08 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le vendredi 8 juillet 2011 06:22:38, Ahmad Samir a écrit : On 7 July 2011 22:04, philippe makowski makowski.mag...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/7 nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org: Yes, for the test about the bug fixed. But isn't there tests to check for regressions ? when you push a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates testing

2011-07-08 Thread David W. Hodgins
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 00:22:38 -0400, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, for big packages like libreoffice, we'll have to rely on the free-cost-daily-usage QA, i.e. pushing it to Cauldron users for 1-2month, and waiting till the dust settles before pushing to older stable

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-08 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/7/8 James Kerr j...@jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk: This thread has strayed far from the original question, which could be re-stated as: Should tainted free software and tainted nonfree software be commingled in a single tainted repository? How can tainted software be free software at the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates testing

2011-07-08 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le vendredi 8 juillet 2011 10:20:16, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le vendredi 8 juillet 2011 06:22:38, Ahmad Samir a écrit : On 7 July 2011 22:04, philippe makowski makowski.mag...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/7 nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org: Yes, for the test about the bug fixed. But

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-08 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/7/8 Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de: Am 08.07.2011 10:42, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath: 2011/7/8 James Kerrj...@jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk: This thread has strayed far from the original question, which could be re-stated as: Should tainted free software and tainted nonfree software be

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates testing

2011-07-08 Thread nicolas vigier
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011, andre999 wrote: nicolas vigier a écrit : On Thu, 07 Jul 2011, Damien Lallement wrote: Le 07/07/2011 14:18, nicolas vigier a écrit : On Wed, 06 Jul 2011, José Jorge wrote: Le mercredi 6 juillet 2011 18:12:44, nicolas vigier a écrit : Hello, A few package updates need

[Mageia-dev] Mageia educational - part 2

2011-07-08 Thread Angelo Naselli
Hi folks, thanks to mamming we've improved our wiki page [1]. It's always work in progress of course, new project entries and movement from to be packaged to package are always welcome :D Let's talk about what to do now, two main steps are: * add missing educational programs * group educational

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates testing

2011-07-08 Thread philippe makowski
2011/7/8 nicolas vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org: I think the goal is not to do full regression tests, as we don't have time for this. But do minimal testing, in 1 or 2 minutes, to check that basic functionality is still working, to check that the update didn't break everything. For LibreOffice

Re: [Mageia-dev] PPA-like repos

2011-07-08 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Eugeni Dodonov at 07/07/11 22:38 did gyre and gimble: But as for QA, yes, this is true. Probably the best solution for it was Meego's one, in the n800 era - when you install something from non-official repo it shows a window saying 'You are installing something that could

Re: [Mageia-dev] PPA-like repos

2011-07-08 Thread Cazzaniga Sandro
Le 08/07/2011 12:28, Colin Guthrie a écrit : I think also the ppa-purge tool is quite useful (I've not used it myself, just read instructions of it's use) which can aid the purging of a given PPA's packages and the installation of the offical packages needed to solve any dependency holes left

[Mageia-dev] Out of town until 18/07

2011-07-08 Thread Michael Scherer
Hi, As seen on the blog, I will be at Libre Software Meeting and in holidays for a few days after, do not expect a fast answer from me nor much answer on irc until 18th July. I will also not be present in meeting during the week. -- Michael Scherer

Re: [Mageia-dev] Standardising the virtual Provides in -devel packages

2011-07-08 Thread EatDirt
On 08/07/11 06:37, Ahmad Samir wrote: Hello. I've had a rather vague idea about standardising the virtual provides in the distro, there should be: Provides: %{name}-devel Provides: lib%{name}-devel either both of them in _all_ packages, or one of them in _all_ packages, so that we don't have

Re: [Mageia-dev] Standardising the virtual Provides in -devel packages

2011-07-08 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 8 July 2011 13:44, EatDirt dirt...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/07/11 06:37, Ahmad Samir wrote: Hello. I've had a rather vague idea about standardising the virtual provides in the distro, there should be: Provides: %{name}-devel Provides: lib%{name}-devel either both of them in _all_

Re: [Mageia-dev] Standardising the virtual Provides in -devel packages

2011-07-08 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 08.07.2011 07:37, Ahmad Samir wrote: Hello. I've had a rather vague idea about standardising the virtual provides in the distro, there should be: Provides: %{name}-devel Provides: lib%{name}-devel either both of them in _all_ packages, or one of them in _all_ packages, so that we

Re: [Mageia-dev] Standardising the virtual Provides in -devel packages

2011-07-08 Thread nicolas vigier
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote: Hello. I've had a rather vague idea about standardising the virtual provides in the distro, there should be: Provides: %{name}-devel Provides: lib%{name}-devel Good idea. With version and release included : Provides: %{name}-devel =

[Mageia-dev] A tool to help spotting backports needs

2011-07-08 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Hi, Mageia App Db (still under development but already usable and making progress) has a new page which compares all packages in stable releases to the packages in the development branch (here, cooker). You can find it here : http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/package/comparison/ It

Re: [Mageia-dev] Standardising the virtual Provides in -devel packages

2011-07-08 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 08.07.2011 17:31, schrieb nicolas vigier: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote: Hello. I've had a rather vague idea about standardising the virtual provides in the distro, there should be: Provides: %{name}-devel Provides: lib%{name}-devel Good idea. With version and release included :

Re: [Mageia-dev] Standardising the virtual Provides in -devel packages

2011-07-08 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 08 juillet 2011 à 17:27 +0300, Anssi Hannula a écrit : On 08.07.2011 07:37, Ahmad Samir wrote: Hello. I've had a rather vague idea about standardising the virtual provides in the distro, there should be: Provides: %{name}-devel Provides: lib%{name}-devel either both

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updates testing

2011-07-08 Thread andre999
philippe makowski a écrit : 2011/7/8 nicolas vigierbo...@mars-attacks.org: I think the goal is not to do full regression tests, as we don't have time for this. But do minimal testing, in 1 or 2 minutes, to check that basic functionality is still working, to check that the update didn't break

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia educational - part 2

2011-07-08 Thread andre999
Angelo Naselli a écrit : Hi folks, thanks to mamming we've improved our wiki page [1]. It's always work in progress of course, new project entries and movement from to be packaged to package are always welcome :D Let's talk about what to do now, two main steps are: * add missing educational

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-08 Thread andre999
Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2011/7/8 Thorsten van Liltv...@gmx.de: Am 08.07.2011 10:42, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath: 2011/7/8 James Kerrj...@jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk: This thread has strayed far from the original question, which could be re-stated as: Should tainted free software and