[Mageia-dev] Bad signatures with latest updates

2012-05-30 Thread Robert Fox
The following packages have bad signatures: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-14.21-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm: Missing signature (OK ((none))) /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-backend-14.21-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm: Missing signature (OK ((none))) /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-curses-14.21-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm: M

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release perl-5.16.0-1.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 13:39, Iurt the rebuild bot wrote: > jquelin 2:5.16.0-1.mga3: > + Revision: 248812 > - update to perl 5.16 >  to minimize differences to upstream, i did not remove any module. >  dual-lifed modules conflicting on a script will rename the script to >  version it (eg: /usr/bin/script

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release git-1.7.10.3-2.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 22:40, blino wrote: > blino 1:1.7.10.3-2.mga3: > + Revision: 251838 > - rebuild for new perl Why? This is uneeded...

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
Στις 30/05/2012 20:44:12 Charles A Edwards έγραψε: >On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:49:19 +0200 >Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote: > >> > - The keyring related operations of importing public keys and >> >verifying package signatures have been split into a new "rpmkeys" >> >cli utility >> > >> > - Pack

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread lemonzest
On 30/05/12 09:38, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > Hi > > I think we must discuss the following point for next release: > currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. > > However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default > non-free is not enabled. > > 1) This makes the Mageia experience hor

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Agron Selimaj
Hi, I can see two objectives here. First objective is to have a high installation success rate. And second objective is to have happy users from both camps; the GNU-purists-camp and the don't-care-camp. I think the GNU-purists-camp is a minority here, but I could be wrong, I never counted them. F

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:49:19 +0200 Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote: > > - The keyring related operations of importing public keys and > >verifying package signatures have been split into a new "rpmkeys" > >cli utility > > > > - Package signing and signature deletion operations have been spl

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-05-30 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mercredi 30 mai 2012 23:43:03, Anne Nicolas a écrit : > Hi there > > Mageia 2 is out, it's now time to work on next version, Mageia 3. We > tried to improve the specifications process so that it can be more > efficient and less frustrating :). > > Some conclusions on Mageia 2 specifications: >

[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-05-30 Thread Anne Nicolas
Hi there Mageia 2 is out, it's now time to work on next version, Mageia 3. We tried to improve the specifications process so that it can be more efficient and less frustrating :). Some conclusions on Mageia 2 specifications: - lots of proposals, very few achieved - lots of incomplete proposa

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 30/05/12 17:53 did gyre and gimble: > On 30 May 2012 11:08, Thierry Vignaud wrote: >> Several of those have been ported to new x11-server-1.12 ABI in git >> but haven't yet been released (eg: chips, rendition, tseng) > > I've pushed those > >> eg: we need to

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release perl-URPM-3.40-1.1.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Olivier Blin
Thierry Vignaud writes: > On 30 May 2012 13:38, Iurt the rebuild bot > wrote: >> tv 3.40-1.1.mga2: >> + Revision: 223706 >> - add URPM::traverse_tag_find() for urpme --env > > Please bump release and puts some changelog next time > you rebuild :-( > sg such as: "rebuild for new perl" Yes, it w

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 11:08, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > Several of those have been ported to new x11-server-1.12 ABI in git > but haven't yet been released (eg: chips, rendition, tseng) I've pushed those > eg: we need to package a newer snapshot of nouveau > > Also I'ven't yet tried t orebuild several mi

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
Le 30 mai 2012 18:42, "Thierry Vignaud" a écrit : > > On 30 May 2012 17:25, Johnny A. Solbu wrote: > >> > dropped the --sign from rpmbuild > >> > >> Use rpmsign > > > > Why is "--sign" no longer supported? > > http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-announce/2011-March/27.html > > "* New command l

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 17:25, Johnny A. Solbu wrote: >> > dropped the --sign from rpmbuild >> >> Use rpmsign > > Why is "--sign" no longer supported? http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-announce/2011-March/27.html "* New command line utilities for spec queries (with much enhanced functionality), p

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:35, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > > dropped the --sign from rpmbuild > > Use rpmsign Why is "--sign" no longer supported? -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
Στις 30/05/2012 16:35:29 Thierry Vignaud έγραψε: >On 30 May 2012 16:28, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote: >> I see that rpmbuild does n't ask me any more (after upgrading to mga2) for >> the password when i add the --sign. >> With the bm it works fine. >> I don't know if it is dropped the --sign from

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 16:38, Johnny A. Solbu ha scritto: > On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:20, Angelo Naselli wrote: > > If you really mean that you should also remove non-free repositories etc... > > I don't think being a don Quijote is that good... always imho of course. > > They do exactly

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:36, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > We're speaking about those who actually have (a decent number of) users Then you should say so, and not pretend that the other ones don't exist. -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally sig

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread paiiou
And here is the opinion of a user. I read little English and I'm not sure that I understand the totality of interventions. Anyway, the basic user requests a distribution that works, without needing to get their hands dirty. If this can illuminate your discussion! Païou (Georges)

Re: [Mageia-dev] packages pushed to cauldron updates_testing before release

2012-05-30 Thread nicolas vigier
On Tue, 29 May 2012, David Walser wrote: > Thomas Backlund writes: > > 29.05.2012 19:48, David Walser skrev: > > > Packagers, > > > > > > If you pushed a package to updates_testing in Cauldron before Mageia 2 was > > released, please make sure you re-push it if you want the fix/update > > inclu

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:20, Angelo Naselli wrote: > If you really mean that you should also remove non-free repositories etc... > I don't think being a don Quijote is that good... always imho of course. They do exactly that. They do not have any non-free repo. They have a policy that do not a

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 15:32, Johnny A. Solbu wrote: >> So there're two kinds of Linux distro: > > I beg to differ, there are three kinds, using your way of counting. > >> - those who provides free & proprietary drivers >> - those who only provides free drivers, with the needed firmwares > > - those who o

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 16:28, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote: > I see that rpmbuild does n't ask me any more (after upgrading to mga2) for > the password when i add the --sign. > With the bm it works fine. > I don't know if it is dropped the --sign from rpmbuild or is something that > needs to have a look.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [4714] rename internal function to mark themas private

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 29 May 2012 19:29, wrote: > -sub sqr { $_[0] * $_[0] } > -sub round { int($_[0] + 0.5) } > -sub group_by2 { > +sub _sqr { $_[0] * $_[0] } > +sub _round { int($_[0] + 0.5) } > +sub _group_by2 { Please add a comment that all these functions came from MDK::Common. So that we think about syncing

[Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
I see that rpmbuild does n't ask me any more (after upgrading to mga2) for the password when i add the --sign. With the bm it works fine. I don't know if it is dropped the --sign from rpmbuild or is something that needs to have a look. -- Dimitrios Glentadakis

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 15:32, Johnny A. Solbu ha scritto: > If some hardware does not work without having a proprietary firmware or > driver, then that particular hardware does not work. Period. The user must > install a proprietary driver them selves afterwards if they want to use it, >

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release xfprint-4.6.1-6.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Jani Välimaa
On 30.05.2012 07:51, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2012 06:58:50 +0300 > Jani Välimaa wrote: > >> Libxfcegui4 is deprecated, but it's not entirely "dead and buried", >> there's still some plugins which aren't ported to libxfce4ui and needs >> libxfcegui4. Also, new version 4.10.0 was

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 10:38, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > So there're two kinds of Linux distro: I beg to differ, there are three kinds, using your way of counting. > - those who provides free & proprietary drivers > - those who only provides free drivers, with the needed firmwares - those who on

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release perl-Glib-1.251.0-3.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 14:36, jquelin wrote: > jquelin 1.251.0-3.mga3: > + Revision: 250648 > - rebuild for perl 5.16 You can resubmit all of perl-Gtk2, perl-Gnome2 now. Preferably starting with perl-Gtk2, then everything else. There's a couple interdepedancies left but that would be a beginning

Re: [Mageia-dev] don't update perl modules yet

2012-05-30 Thread Jerome Quelin
hi, On 12/05/29 18:48 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: > blino will submit it soon using some special tricks - those are needed > since there is a bootstrap problem between perl and urpmi. blino did his magic trick, and pascal then uploaded the result. thanks to both of them. as you can see, a lot of

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne nicolas
2012/5/30 Claire REVILLET : > Hi > > Le 30/05/2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas a écrit : >> >> - Development planning for Mageia 3 >> >> - Specifications for Mageia 3 > > Could we talk about the Java dependency problem (don't know if it can be in > one of this 2 points) ? We will not detail specs but rath

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release perl-URPM-3.40-1.1.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 13:38, Iurt the rebuild bot wrote: > tv 3.40-1.1.mga2: > + Revision: 223706 > - add URPM::traverse_tag_find() for urpme --env Please bump release and puts some changelog next time you rebuild :-( sg such as: "rebuild for new perl"

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Claire REVILLET
Hi Le 30/05/2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas a écrit : - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for Mageia 3 Could we talk about the Java dependency problem (don't know if it can be in one of this 2 points) ? Claire

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/updates_testing x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20120530.1.mga3.nonfree

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 13:28, Pascal Terjan wrote: >> Name        : x11-driver-video-nouveau     Relocations: (not relocatable) >> Version     : 0.0.16                            Vendor: Mageia.Org >> Release     : 0.20120530.1.mga3.nonfree     Build Date: Wed May 30 13:25:15 >> 2012 > > nonfree? > Same

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne nicolas
2012/5/30 Manuel Hiebel : > Le 30/05/2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas a écrit : > >> Hi there >> >> We could say "on the road again" :). Our meeting will happen as usual at >> 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. >> >> Here are the proposed topics: >> - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem >> - Development planning for Mage

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 11:18, Olav Vitters wrote: >> eg: we need to package a newer snapshot of nouveau > > I have a nVidia card, so need nouveau to be able to test. I've just uploaded it. However I've mistakely uploaded the following packages in nonfree/updates_testing instead of in core/updates_testin

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/updates_testing x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20120530.1.mga3.nonfree

2012-05-30 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:26 PM, tv wrote: > Name        : x11-driver-video-nouveau     Relocations: (not relocatable) > Version     : 0.0.16                            Vendor: Mageia.Org > Release     : 0.20120530.1.mga3.nonfree     Build Date: Wed May 30 13:25:15 > 2012 nonfree? Same for the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Manuel Hiebel
Le 30/05/2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas a écrit : Hi there We could say "on the road again" :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for Mageia 3 Cheers Wha

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 10:38, Thierry Vignaud ha scritto: > Hi > > I think we must discuss the following point for next release: > currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. I'm in favour of having working installer either for newbies or for those people that does not read release notes, e

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 12:43, Anne nicolas ha scritto: > No pb to add this topic but I would suggest to plan it for next week. > QA is having meeting tomorrow and it's a big condition to manage > backports. We do not forget it but postpone it for one week only One week more, sounds good to m

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne nicolas
2012/5/30 Angelo Naselli : > mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 10:30, Anne Nicolas ha scritto: >> Hi there >> >> We could say "on the road again" :). Our meeting will happen as usual at >> 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. >> >> Here are the proposed topics: >> - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem >> - Development

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread AL13N
> mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 10:30, Anne Nicolas ha scritto: >> Hi there >> >> We could say "on the road again" :). Our meeting will happen as usual at >> 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. >> >> Here are the proposed topics: >> - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem >> - Development planning for Mageia 3 >> -

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread AL13N
> On 30 May 2012 12:21, AL13N wrote: >>> Offering the choice between working proprietary drivers >>> and NOT working free drivers is somewhat stupid don't you think? >> >> this is true, of course, except that iirc not all cards were >> non-working. >> >> i must add that even with my nvidia i had n

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 10:30, Anne Nicolas ha scritto: > Hi there > > We could say "on the road again" :). Our meeting will happen as usual at > 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. > > Here are the proposed topics: > - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem > - Development planning for Mageia 3 > - Specific

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 12:21, AL13N wrote: >> Offering the choice between working proprietary drivers >> and NOT working free drivers is somewhat stupid don't you think? > > this is true, of course, except that iirc not all cards were non-working. > > i must add that even with my nvidia i had nouveau fail

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread AL13N
> On 30 May 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund wrote: [...] > Offering the choice between working proprietary drivers > and NOT working free drivers is somewhat stupid don't you think? this is true, of course, except that iirc not all cards were non-working. i must add that even with my nvidia i had no

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread AL13N
> 30.05.2012 11:38, Thierry Vignaud skrev: [..] >> I think we should offer the choice to: >> - either be able to choose between working proprietary driver and >>working free driver >> - or to have _working_ free driver >>(that is including the needed firmwares) >> > > As pointed out in earl

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thomas Backlund
30.05.2012 12:23, Thierry Vignaud skrev: On 30 May 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund wrote: I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default non-free is not enabled. So its an in

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund wrote: >> I think we must discuss the following point for next release: >> currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. >> >> However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default >> non-free is not enabled. > > So its an installer issue. No it's a po

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass ping

2012-05-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 08:08:30AM +0300, Sander Lepik wrote: > With new bugzilla we should be able to choose multiple versions. And we can > use keywords to > handle them. For example: tested_mgaX_arch -> validate_update_mgaX -> > update_pushed_mgaX. Normally you'd use flags for this. You can

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thomas Backlund
30.05.2012 12:13, Thierry Vignaud skrev: Likewise, fedora package AMD/Intel microcode for their CPUs So if we are supposed to do everything fedora does, we might as well use fedora then... whereas we put them in non-free, which makes microcode_ctl to not work by default See https://bugs.m

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:08:27AM +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > eg: we need to package a newer snapshot of nouveau I have a nVidia card, so need nouveau to be able to test. -- Regards, Olav

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 10:38, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > I think we must discuss the following point for next release: > currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. > > However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default > non-free is not enabled. > > 1) This makes the Mageia experience horrible

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 11:06, Anne Nicolas wrote: > Le 30/05/2012 11:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > >> On 30 May 2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas  wrote: >>> >>> Hi there >>> >>> We could say "on the road again" :). Our meeting will happen as usual at >>> 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. >>> >>> Here are the proposed topi

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thomas Backlund
30.05.2012 11:38, Thierry Vignaud skrev: Hi I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default non-free is not enabled. So its an installer issue. 1) This makes the Mageia

[Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Hi x11-server-1.12 and rebuild drivers are in */update_testing. Please test. The following drivers failed to rebuild: - virtualbox - x11-driver-input-synaptics - x11-driver-video-chips - x11-driver-video-nouveau - x11-driver-video-rendition - x11-driver-video-sisimedia - x11-driver-video-sisusb

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne Nicolas
Le 30/05/2012 11:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 30 May 2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas wrote: Hi there We could say "on the road again" :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development planning for Mageia

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas wrote: > Hi there > > We could say "on the road again" :). Our meeting will happen as usual at > 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. > > Here are the proposed topics: > - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem > - Development planning for Mageia 3 > - Specifications for Mageia 3 I

[Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Hi I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default non-free is not enabled. 1) This makes the Mageia experience horrible on some machines (black screen, machines unusable

[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne Nicolas
Hi there We could say "on the road again" :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for Mageia 3 Cheers -- http://mageia.org

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass ping

2012-05-30 Thread Claire Robinson
On 30/05/12 06:08, Sander Lepik wrote: 30.05.2012 05:14, blind Pete kirjutas: Would it be possible to have a bug report refer to multiple versions and simultaneously have X marked as OLD, Y marked as FIXED, and Z marked as BLOCKING? With new bugzilla we should be able to choose multiple version