On 30/05/12 09:38, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Hi
>
> I think we must discuss the following point for next release:
> currently radeon firmwares are in non-free.
>
> However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default
> non-free is not enabled.
>
> 1) This makes the Mageia experience hor
Hi,
I can see two objectives here.
First objective is to have a high installation success rate.
And second objective is to have happy users from both camps; the
GNU-purists-camp and the don't-care-camp.
I think the GNU-purists-camp is a minority here, but I could be wrong, I
never counted them. F
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 16:38, Johnny A. Solbu ha scritto:
> On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:20, Angelo Naselli wrote:
> > If you really mean that you should also remove non-free repositories etc...
> > I don't think being a don Quijote is that good... always imho of course.
>
> They do exactly
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:36, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> We're speaking about those who actually have (a decent number of) users
Then you should say so, and not pretend that the other ones don't exist.
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And here is the opinion of a user.
I read little English and I'm not sure that I understand the totality
of interventions.
Anyway, the basic user requests a distribution that works,
without needing to get their hands dirty.
If this can illuminate your discussion!
Païou (Georges)
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:20, Angelo Naselli wrote:
> If you really mean that you should also remove non-free repositories etc...
> I don't think being a don Quijote is that good... always imho of course.
They do exactly that. They do not have any non-free repo. They have a policy
that do not a
On 30 May 2012 15:32, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
>> So there're two kinds of Linux distro:
>
> I beg to differ, there are three kinds, using your way of counting.
>
>> - those who provides free & proprietary drivers
>> - those who only provides free drivers, with the needed firmwares
>
> - those who o
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 15:32, Johnny A. Solbu ha scritto:
> If some hardware does not work without having a proprietary firmware or
> driver, then that particular hardware does not work. Period. The user must
> install a proprietary driver them selves afterwards if they want to use it,
>
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 10:38, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> So there're two kinds of Linux distro:
I beg to differ, there are three kinds, using your way of counting.
> - those who provides free & proprietary drivers
> - those who only provides free drivers, with the needed firmwares
- those who on
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 10:38, Thierry Vignaud ha scritto:
> Hi
>
> I think we must discuss the following point for next release:
> currently radeon firmwares are in non-free.
I'm in favour of having working installer either for newbies or
for those people that does not read release notes, e
> On 30 May 2012 12:21, AL13N wrote:
>>> Offering the choice between working proprietary drivers
>>> and NOT working free drivers is somewhat stupid don't you think?
>>
>> this is true, of course, except that iirc not all cards were
>> non-working.
>>
>> i must add that even with my nvidia i had n
On 30 May 2012 12:21, AL13N wrote:
>> Offering the choice between working proprietary drivers
>> and NOT working free drivers is somewhat stupid don't you think?
>
> this is true, of course, except that iirc not all cards were non-working.
>
> i must add that even with my nvidia i had nouveau fail
> On 30 May 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund wrote:
[...]
> Offering the choice between working proprietary drivers
> and NOT working free drivers is somewhat stupid don't you think?
this is true, of course, except that iirc not all cards were non-working.
i must add that even with my nvidia i had no
> 30.05.2012 11:38, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
[..]
>> I think we should offer the choice to:
>> - either be able to choose between working proprietary driver and
>>working free driver
>> - or to have _working_ free driver
>>(that is including the needed firmwares)
>>
>
> As pointed out in earl
30.05.2012 12:23, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
On 30 May 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund wrote:
I think we must discuss the following point for next release:
currently radeon firmwares are in non-free.
However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default
non-free is not enabled.
So its an in
On 30 May 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund wrote:
>> I think we must discuss the following point for next release:
>> currently radeon firmwares are in non-free.
>>
>> However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default
>> non-free is not enabled.
>
> So its an installer issue.
No it's a po
30.05.2012 12:13, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
Likewise, fedora package AMD/Intel microcode for their CPUs
So if we are supposed to do everything fedora does, we might as well use
fedora then...
whereas we put them in non-free, which makes microcode_ctl to
not work by default
See https://bugs.m
On 30 May 2012 10:38, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> I think we must discuss the following point for next release:
> currently radeon firmwares are in non-free.
>
> However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default
> non-free is not enabled.
>
> 1) This makes the Mageia experience horrible
30.05.2012 11:38, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
Hi
I think we must discuss the following point for next release:
currently radeon firmwares are in non-free.
However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default
non-free is not enabled.
So its an installer issue.
1) This makes the Mageia
Hi
I think we must discuss the following point for next release:
currently radeon firmwares are in non-free.
However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default
non-free is not enabled.
1) This makes the Mageia experience horrible on some machines
(black screen, machines unusable
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