Franck Martin writes:
> As they say at IETF: Read the spec! :P
I have (probably three times carefully by now), and I still can't
understand why you think DMARC makes any sense at all for mailing
lists. (I have no trouble at all understanding why Citibank thinks
it's great. But that's a complet
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
>
> Then wait for the final cut before submitting patches...
The only reason there is a patch is because someone (ahem, cough
cough) implemented a trial spec into a production email address used
to send email to a spam fighting mailinglist whic
- Original Message -
> From: "Jim Popovitch"
> To: "Franck Martin"
> Cc: Mailman-Developers@python.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 4:59:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman DMARC Support (it's not what you
> think!)
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jim Popovitch"
>> To: Mailman-Developers@python.org
>> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:49:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman DMARC
- Original Message -
> From: "Jim Popovitch"
> To: Mailman-Developers@python.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:49:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman DMARC Support (it's not what you
> think!)
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:27
Jim -
On 11/7/13 3:27 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:12 PM, J. Trent Adams wrote:
>> should provide an option to participate in as secure communication as
>> possible.
> Randomly applying security distinctions, to RFC de'jour, is not really
> helping.
Well, here we disag
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:12 PM, J. Trent Adams wrote:
> should provide an option to participate in as secure communication as
> possible.
Randomly applying security distinctions, to RFC de'jour, is not really
helping. If you want true message security, then PGP/GPG is the only
universal way.
Jim -
On 11/7/13 12:58 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM, J. Trent Adams wrote:
[snip]
> Now we're left participating on mailing lists using personal mail
> accounts. As you can imagine, that makes many departments in the
> organization really nervous for a variety of obv
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM, J. Trent Adams wrote:
>
> Jim -
>
> On 10/20/13 4:17 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Having read the archives, I see that (at least 6 of) you are aware of
>> DMARC, or as I like to call it YAPFS. (Yet Another Panacea For Spam)
>> :-)
>
> Heh - If only DMARC
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
> To be noted, the procedure, in this patch, to find the policy record in the
> DNS, is not in line with the best current practice specified in the DMARC
> spec, far from it.
Care to offer some insight?
> Also, what about p=quarantine?
I thin
Jim -
On 10/20/13 4:17 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Having read the archives, I see that (at least 6 of) you are aware of
> DMARC, or as I like to call it YAPFS. (Yet Another Panacea For Spam)
> :-)
Heh - If only DMARC was as successful at stopping spam as it is in
shutting down spoofed
spec,
far from it.
Also, what about p=quarantine?
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Popovitch"
To: Mailman-Developers@python.org
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 3:17:17 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman DMARC Support (it's not what you think!)
Hello,
Having read the
- Original Message -
> From: "Andreas Schulze"
> To: mailman-developers@python.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 11:28:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman DMARC Support (it's not what you
> think!)
>
>
> Zitat von Jim Po
Zitat von Jim Popovitch :
... that mailing lists, like MTAs, have no business modifying the
From header;
I fully agree with these opinions an like to add "should not modify
the messagebody"
nor should mailing lists accept mail that they knowingly can't reflect.
"reflect" is a really good
Hello,
Having read the archives, I see that (at least 6 of) you are aware of
DMARC, or as I like to call it YAPFS. (Yet Another Panacea For Spam)
:-)
Earlier this year Mark asked me to run by MM-Dev a patch that Phil
Pennock and I collaborated on. Mark, thank you for your valuable
feedback, I ha
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