Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: >> In the vette log, I am seeing these messages from the automatic posts ... >> >> >> Feb 06 06:13:14 2006 (17698) mail-list post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, >> message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Message has implicit >> destination > > So the post is held

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: >> Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> In which queue do you find it? >>> >> the out queue >> >>> Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly >>> 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? >>> >> >> Nothing good in qrunner, locks or erro

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: >> Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> In which queue do you find it? >>> >> the out queue >> >>> Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly >>> 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? >>> >> >> Nothing good in qrunner, locks or erro

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: >> Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> In which queue do you find it? >>> >> the out queue >> >>> Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly >>> 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? >>> >> >> Nothing good in qrunner, locks or erro

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lawrence Bowie wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> In which queue do you find it? >> > >the out queue > >> Are there any relevant messages in any of Mailman's logs, particularly >> 'locks', 'qrunner', 'error' and 'smtp-failure'? >> > > >Nothing good in qrunner, locks or error. smtp-failure has legitima

Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lawrence Bowie wrote: > >In the vette log, I am seeing these messages from the automatic posts ... > > >Feb 06 06:13:14 2006 (17698) mail-list post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, >message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Message has implicit >destination So the post is held because the list posting address

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: >> Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> Lawrence Bowie wrote: These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix does not know about. >>> >>> In which qfiles? If it is qfiles/retry/*, then the message has been >>> queued for retry because

Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie >> I have not tried the above but it is asking for confirmation because the >> posts >> are from legitimate automatic engines that send email. The list does not >> know >> how to distinguish between SPAM and a legitimate automatic post. >> >> Any ideas on re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lawrence Bowie wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Lawrence Bowie wrote: >>> >>> These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix >>> does not know about. >> >> >> In which qfiles? If it is qfiles/retry/*, then the message has been >> queued for retry because the original MTA deliv

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: >> >> 3) When typing, mailq, on the server, it does not list the corresponding >> held messages. These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix >> does not know about. > > > In which qfiles? If it is qfiles/retry/*, then th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carl Zwanzig wrote: > The command 'mailq' usually lists -sendmail-'s queue. Postfix uses > the postqueue command, and AFAIK mailman doesn't have a command at > all. Postfix is very sendmail compatible and it does install a mailq command - at least on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jon Loose wrote: >Thanks for the correction... "MTA='Postfix'" works just fine. > >However, no change in mailing behaviour after making this change and >restarting mailman/postfix. I still can't get messages out beyond the >local network. As I said before, I think this is strictly Postfix, not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers - Correction

2006-02-06 Thread Jon Loose
Brief correction to my previous message... I do now have data/aliases, though not data/virtual-mailman. Hope this helps, Thanks, Jon ___ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online!

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stefan Fuhrmann wrote: > >When I browse now to the URL: >http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/mailman/create > >then I get: > >" Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 > >We're sorry, we hit a bug! > >Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of >traceback and other system information has been

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers

2006-02-06 Thread Jon Loose
Thanks for the correction... "MTA='Postfix'" works just fine. However, no change in mailing behaviour after making this change and restarting mailman/postfix. I still can't get messages out beyond the local network. Note that up to this point, I have put the aliases for mailman lists in /etc/ali

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman + apache2

2006-02-06 Thread Stefan Fuhrmann
> > How are you configuring Apache to understand that a URL like > for example is supposed to > execute the Cgi program whose (default configuration) location is > /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo? The normal way this is done is > with > > ScriptAlias /

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Carl Zwanzig
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: > > > > 3) When typing, mailq, on the server, it does not list the corresponding > > held messages. These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix > > does not know about. > In which qfiles? If

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lawrence Bowie wrote: > > 3) When typing, mailq, on the server, it does not list the corresponding > held messages. These are message Mailman has in its qfiles that PostFix > does not know about. In which qfiles? If it is qfiles/retry/*, then the message has been queued f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: >>> If that's what you want, you need to set Privacy options...->Sender >>> filters->generic_nonmember_action) to Reject. >>> >> Does not work? I was hoping there was something I was missing but >> apparently >> not. I do not receive the reject mess

Re: [Mailman-Users] majordomo mailinglist migration to mailman

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jana Nguyen wrote: > >I need to migrate mailing list from majordomo to mailman. I didn't see >any instructions to do this, what >are the steps? There is an old perl script, majordomo2mailman.pl, in the contrib directory in the Mailman distribution that may or may not be helpful. >If I copy th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jon Loose wrote: > >However, I now find that sending a message to the list >on domain2 leads to copies being sent out to a local >user, but not to any users outside my network. This >looks like an MTA issue, and so I'm sure I should have >fixed things slightly differently in postfix. Further >com

[Mailman-Users] majordomo mailinglist migration to mailman

2006-02-06 Thread Jana Nguyen
Hi there, I need to migrate mailing list from majordomo to mailman. I didn't see any instructions to do this, what are the steps? If I copy the mailing list from majordomo to mailman at the following location: /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/ This does not work. Any feedback would be muc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers

2006-02-06 Thread Jon Loose
Many thanks for your help, which has precipitated progress. I am now able to see the appropriate lists when accessing the system via the appropriate domain. Thus www.domain1.org/mailman/admin leads to the domain1 lists, and www.domain2.org/mailman/admin leads to the domain2 lists. All to the goo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Password

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Marlowe McClasky wrote: > >Recently our web master took off without leaving any passwords behind (what a >mess!). In any case, I am trying to learn mailman, and just realized that I >have no idea what our list administrator password is. I've tried all kinds of >things, none works. How do I fi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Password

2006-02-06 Thread Larry Rosenman
Marlowe McClasky wrote: > Hello -- > > Recently our web master took off without leaving any passwords behind > (what a mess!). In any case, I am trying to learn mailman, and just > realized that I have no idea what our list administrator password is. > I've tried all kinds of things, none works.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Issues with replaced characters/newlines inmailmanlists

2006-02-06 Thread Matt Emerson
On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Matt Zorzin wrote: > This is an exact copy and paste of an affected subject, with info > obfuscated but of an identical length to the original information: > > Subject: [Suspect List XX] 11-11: Subject of emails > coming from > mailing lists with "?

[Mailman-Users] Password

2006-02-06 Thread Marlowe McClasky
Hello -- Recently our web master took off without leaving any passwords behind (what a mess!). In any case, I am trying to learn mailman, and just realized that I have no idea what our list administrator password is. I've tried all kinds of things, none works. How do I find out or change it?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lawrence Bowie wrote: >> >> If that's what you want, you need to set Privacy options...->Sender >> filters->generic_nonmember_action) to Reject. >> > Does not work? I was hoping there was something I was missing but > apparently >not. I do not receive the reject messag until about 4 or 6

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: > >> I am having trouble figuring why when a message from a non-member sent to my >> lists does not immediately bounce back to the sender saying, "You are not a >> member". > > > If that's what you want, you need to set Privacy options...->Sender > fi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lawrence Bowie wrote: >I am having trouble figuring why when a message from a non-member sent to my >lists does not immediately bounce back to the sender saying, "You are not a >member". If that's what you want, you need to set Privacy options...->Sender filters->generic_nonmember_action) to R

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails With Attachments

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Marlowe McClasky wrote: > >We are unable to send an email with an attached file. Can it be done? We >receive the following error message: >-- >Your mail to 'NAPHAstaff' with the subject > >Test - Please Ignore > >Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > >T

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails With Attachments

2006-02-06 Thread Carl Zwanzig
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Marlowe McClasky wrote: > We are unable to send an email with an attached file. Can it be done? Make the attachment smaller than 40k. (Or better, put the file on a web site and send the URL.) > We receive the following error message: > -- > Your mail

[Mailman-Users] Not a list member notification email

2006-02-06 Thread Lawrence Bowie
I am having trouble figuring why when a message from a non-member sent to my lists does not immediately bounce back to the sender saying, "You are not a member". Also, I have a lot of held messages in qfiles/*/* and data/*. How can I manually process those? Thanks, LDB --

[Mailman-Users] Emails With Attachments

2006-02-06 Thread Marlowe McClasky
Hello All -- Thanks in advance for your suggestions and advice. We are unable to send an email with an attached file. Can it be done? We receive the following error message: -- Your mail to 'NAPHAstaff' with the subject Test - Please Ignore Is being held until the list moderator

Re: [Mailman-Users] changes not being saved

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Orr wrote: >I've switched to mailman from qmail and none of the changes I submit are saved. Huh? >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Articles 1.22, 1.23 and 4.45. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Califor

Re: [Mailman-Users] per list VERP

2006-02-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:23 PM +0100 2006-02-06, Sythos wrote: > There is a way to enable VERP only for some list and not globally? Not unless you want to modify the source code. If you create a patch, please upload it to the SourceForge web site. -- Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Those who would g

Re: [Mailman-Users] set mailman default for nonmember_rejection_notice

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher Adams wrote: >I am trying to set the default message (for new lists) for non-member >posts that are rejected. In mm_cfg.py, I have tried: > >NONMEMBER_REJECTION_NOTICE= "Blah blah blah blah" > >That doesn't work. > >I understand that Python can use single, double, or triple quotes. No

[Mailman-Users] changes not being saved

2006-02-06 Thread Patrick Orr
I've switched to mailman from qmail and none of the changes I submit are saved. Does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

[Mailman-Users] per list VERP

2006-02-06 Thread Sythos
There is a way to enable VERP only for some list and not globally? -- Sythos - http://www.sythos.net () ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against html/rtf/vCard in mail /\- against M$ attachments Beccati questo strato di astrazione che ti nasconde la differenza tra umani e de

[Mailman-Users] set mailman default for nonmember_rejection_notice

2006-02-06 Thread Christopher Adams
I am trying to set the default message (for new lists) for non-member posts that are rejected. In mm_cfg.py, I have tried: NONMEMBER_REJECTION_NOTICE= "Blah blah blah blah" That doesn't work. I understand that Python can use single, double, or triple quotes. None of these work. -- Christo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Members only umbrella lists

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
RobertHJ wrote: > >Sub-listA: memberA1, memberA2 >Sub-listB: memberB1, memberB2 >UmbrellaList: Sub-ListA, Sub-ListB > >Although UmbrellaList is a recognised alias in both sub lists, if memberA1 >posts to UmbrellaList the post is held for moderator approval by Sub-ListB >because sender is a non-me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error

2006-02-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:16 PM -0200 2006-02-06, Clovis Tristao wrote: > /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure > Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) Low level smtp error: Server not connected, > msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with > code -1: Server not connected

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers

2006-02-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:01 PM +0100 2006-02-06, Xabier Guitián wrote: > I've checked every log and find what i was looking for, the logs tells us the > message-id I want to look after, it divides in different MTA IDs, i'm > supposing that MM sorts them somehow. Once the message has passed from Mailman to

[Mailman-Users] Members only umbrella lists

2006-02-06 Thread RobertHJ (sent by Nabble.com)
Is there a way to configure settings so that one sub-list will accept mails posted to the umbrella list by a member a different sub-list? Want the whole thing to be members only to cut-out spam and also would ideally like to have sender's emal shown in the posts. E.g. Sub-listA: memberA1, me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error

2006-02-06 Thread Clovis Tristao
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Clovis Tristao wrote: > >> When send mail to the list appears the following error: >> >> /var/log/mailman/post: >> Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) post to listname-l from [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> size=3D347714, message-id=3D<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 350 failures >> >> In this list I po

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Xabier Guitián wrote: > >I've checked every log and find what i was looking for, the logs tells us the >message-id I want to look after, it divides in different MTA IDs, i'm >supposing that MM sorts them somehow. With that I can search across the logs >looking for the specific "list member" i wante

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unauthorized mailings

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
rtara (Robin) wrote: >There have been mailings through my mailman account that are not authorized >- in fact, I have cancelled my extra services from my server Time Warner and >no longer have the capability of sending mailman messages. Presumably someone is posting to the list by spoofing you as

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers

2006-02-06 Thread Xabier Guitián
Hi! I've checked every log and find what i was looking for, the logs tells us the message-id I want to look after, it divides in different MTA IDs, i'm supposing that MM sorts them somehow. With that I can search across the logs looking for the specific "list member" i wanted to track. That's w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Clovis Tristao wrote: > >In Defaults.py: >DEFAULT_BOUNCE_PROCESSING = Yes >REGISTER_BOUNCES_EVERY = minutes(15) >DEFAULT_BOUNCE_SCORE_THRESHOLD = 5.0 >DEFAULT_BOUNCE_INFO_STALE_AFTER = days(7) >DEFAULT_BOUNCE_YOU_ARE_DISABLED_WARNINGS = 3 >DEFAULT_BOUNCE_YOU_ARE_DISABLED_WARNINGS_INTERVAL = days(7)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Clovis Tristao wrote: > >When send mail to the list appears the following error: > >/var/log/mailman/post: >Feb 06 14:28:42 2006 (22383) post to listname-l from [EMAIL PROTECTED], >size=3D347714, message-id=3D<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 350 failures > >In this list I possess 365 users. I do not know what

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jon Loose wrote: > >I have successfully set up mailman 2.1.6 on my redhat >server, but now wish to use further domain names. I >would like the domain names to be treated as >separately as possible, but reading through the docs, >it seems that I cannot have the same list name on >separate domains.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error

2006-02-06 Thread Clovis Tristao
Clovis Tristao wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> If you want a member to be removed on the first bounce, go to the >> Bounce processing page for the list and set the following: >> >> bounce_processing: Yes >> bounce_score_threshold: 0.9 >> bounce_info_stale_after: doesn't matter in this case >> b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error

2006-02-06 Thread Clovis Tristao
Mark Sapiro wrote: > If you want a member to be removed on the first bounce, go to the > Bounce processing page for the list and set the following: > > bounce_processing: Yes > bounce_score_threshold: 0.9 > bounce_info_stale_after: doesn't matter in this case > bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings: 0 >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Xabier Guitián wrote: >How we can check that a message was sent to the entire list if some of the >members didn't received that mail? Is the sending process controlled by the >MTA or directly by mailman? Is there any log where i can check every mail >sended by mailman like the "mail.log" from the

[Mailman-Users] Unauthorized mailings

2006-02-06 Thread rtara
There have been mailings through my mailman account that are not authorized - in fact, I have cancelled my extra services from my server Time Warner and no longer have the capability of sending mailman messages. People are receiving messages with attachments and a short message. Can you help? B

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Clovis Tristao wrote: > >I discovered that mailman is not removing the user of the list when >returns bounce, sees the example below: If Bounce processing for the list is on, default bounce settings will disable delivery to a member only after bounces occur on 5 different days with no more than 7

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman log error

2006-02-06 Thread Clovis Tristao
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Clóvis Tristão wrote: > >> How to see the unknown users in Mailman? It is generate any log about >> users unknown? >> I saw in the /var/log/maillog, but is very difficult identify, many >> information. >> > > Go to the list admin Bounce processing page for the list and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers

2006-02-06 Thread Andre Tann
Xabier Guitián, Montag, 6. Februar 2006 11:41: > How we can check that a message was sent to the entire list if > some of the members didn't received that mail? Is the sending > process controlled by the MTA or directly by mailman? Is there > any log where i can check every mail sended by mailman

[Mailman-Users] Mails don't reach some subscribers

2006-02-06 Thread Xabier Guitián
How we can check that a message was sent to the entire list if some of the members didn't received that mail? Is the sending process controlled by the MTA or directly by mailman? Is there any log where i can check every mail sended by mailman like the "mail.log" from the MTA? I'm using Postfix a

[Mailman-Users] Virtual Servers

2006-02-06 Thread Jon Loose
I am sure I should be able to sort this one out via the documentation/threads, but am struggling to do so, so some help would be appreciated! I have successfully set up mailman 2.1.6 on my redhat server, but now wish to use further domain names. I would like the domain names to be treated as sepa

Re: [Mailman-Users] non human interface for manging users

2006-02-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:54 PM +0900 2006-02-06, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > AFAIK Mailman 2.2 is not expected to get major improvements in this > area, but Tokio Kikuchi the authoritative source on that (IIRC); if a > brief look at Mailman 2.1 MemberAdapter seems unsatisfactory, you > could ask (on this list wo