Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad Knowles wrote: check the Mailman logs, to see how many copies of each message was delivered to the MTA, and then check the MTA logs to track down the individual deliveries to each user. OK, I'll do that. But once I determine the problem, then how to fix

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange is really all that's recently changed in our environment. I think I'll focus my trouble-shooting there now. Thank you, all! Allan mail2web - Check your email from the web at

Re: [Mailman-Users] qmail setup question

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
Peter Horst wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up Mailman on a Fedora Core 5 system running qmail. I'm using the current yum (rpm) package of Mailman. The 2.1 Installation Manual says: Then make your aliases: .qmail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] letters .qmail-owner = mailman-owner’s letters I can't parse

[Mailman-Users] Double address in Reply-To header

2006-08-25 Thread Tomi Snellman
Hi Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. After the upgrade, a couple of subscribers began complaining that they were receiving double replies to their posts. It turned out that their MUA was appending their private address to the list address in the Reply-To header. I've tried to find

Re: [Mailman-Users] Double address in Reply-To header

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
Tomi Snellman wrote: Hi Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. After the upgrade, a couple of subscribers began complaining that they were receiving double replies to their posts. It turned out that their MUA was appending their private address to the list address in the Reply-To header.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-25 Thread David Lee
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Allan Trick wrote: Getting more reports now of other internal users (we have people subscribed within our firewall on our Exchange mail server as well as people outside with all other kinds of email addresses) not getting all messages. In each case, it sounds like they

[Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script

2006-08-25 Thread liste yoneticisi
Hello; I've modified the following script in order to get monthly statistics including list owner column. original script: - #!/bin/bash MONTH=`date +'%b'` MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security

2006-08-25 Thread Jon Loose
Thanks Brad/Mark for comments. It seems outlook is to blame for the message ids. Re: Security, I will pass back to the list anything I find that's simple enough for me! The potential feature set of 2.2 looks good. Any guesstimates on when this will be coming?(!) Are there plans for 2.2 to

[Mailman-Users] SMTPHOST?

2006-08-25 Thread Jay Vaagen
Anyone have any suggestions on this issue? Mailman is running, and I've created a few different mailing lists. I'm running Blue Quartz and have virtual domains. Currently all email sent from Mailman is originating from my localhost FQDN. I would like email from one of my virtual domains to

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script

2006-08-25 Thread Andreas Schulze
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 how can i solve the problem? uppercase Listnames as reported by list_lists throw errors in list_owner - convert listnames to lower - -- Andreas Schulze DATEV eG, Paumgartner Strasse 6-14, D - 90429 Nürnberg Abt. Internet- und Securitydienste

Re: [Mailman-Users] SMTPHOST?

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
Jay Vaagen wrote: Anyone have any suggestions on this issue? Mailman is running, and I've created a few different mailing lists. I'm running Blue Quartz and have virtual domains. Currently all email sent from Mailman is originating from my localhost FQDN. I would like email from one of my

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script

2006-08-25 Thread liste yoneticisi
I am trying to write the script on bash How can i use transrom to lower/upper commands? the manuals on the web didn't work. Liste Yoneticisi http://e-list.cc.metu.edu.tr http://e-liste.bidb.odtu.edu.tr On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Andreas Schulze wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hit a Bug during server move

2006-08-25 Thread Anne Ramey
Mark Sapiro wrote: Anne Ramey wrote: OK, my cgi-bin was missing the suid. Now all I need to figure out is my post failures. Is $prefix/mail/mailman also missing SETGID? If that's not it, does your MTA use aliases for Mailman, and if so, are they there? What's in the MTA

Re: [Mailman-Users] qmail setup question

2006-08-25 Thread Peter Horst
Oleg D. wrote: Peter Horst wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up Mailman on a Fedora Core 5 system running qmail. I'm using the current yum (rpm) package of Mailman. The 2.1 Installation Manual says: Then make your aliases: .qmail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] letters .qmail-owner = mailman-owner’s

[Mailman-Users] Error when trying to remove a member from the ban_list

2006-08-25 Thread Jewel
When I try to remove a member from a ban_list, I receive an error message. It only says: Error (in red) Bad email address for option ban_list and then all the banned member are listed. I am correctly removing the member. Any ideas? J

[Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread Barry Finkel
Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
At 09:18 AM 8/25/2006, Barry Finkel wrote: I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? Barry, I know one reason we don't upgrade every time

Re: [Mailman-Users] Double address in Reply-To header

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tomi Snellman wrote: Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. After the upgrade, a couple of subscribers began complaining that they were receiving double replies to their posts. It turned out that their MUA was appending their private address to the list address in the Reply-To header. It

Re: [Mailman-Users] setting moderator password with command line

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
Alan Holmes wrote: Is there a way to set the moderator password with one of the command line tools? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ:

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script

2006-08-25 Thread liste yoneticisi
Its OK. I want to share the script: - #!/bin/bash MONTH=`date +'%b'` echo $MONTH MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members LISTOWNERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_owners echo Listname Posts

Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman

2006-08-25 Thread Gary Hall
Hi Catherine and Brad, Typed in the code to stop the mailman but it kept on sending mail already in the queue - I forgot to empty the MTA. A reboot appeared to have stopped the process of sending however. The logs were inclusive, but it appears that the html became malformed somehow and the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread Dragon
Barry Finkel wrote: Our Mailman was recently upgraded to 2.1.5. I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? End original

Re: [Mailman-Users] qmail setup question

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Peter Horst wrote: Solve what? :-) I appreciate your taking the time to answer, but my question was what does '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s letters mean? What's a letter? I'm saying that fundamentally I don't understand what the part I quoted even means, so I have nothing to Google... Most of us

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
I'm just reporting back that in the scenario I was describing earlier in this thread, I've checked logs and it appears that Mailman did do what it was supposed to and deliver a message to all 20 of our lists. So the fact that any given user who is subscribed to all those lists only receives

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread Dragon
Allan Trick wrote: At 09:18 AM 8/25/2006, Barry Finkel wrote: I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running 2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? Barry, I know one reason we don't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-25 Thread Dragon
Allan Trick sent the message below at 08:03 8/25/2006: I'm just reporting back that in the scenario I was describing earlier in this thread, I've checked logs and it appears that Mailman did do what it was supposed to and deliver a message to all 20 of our lists. So the fact that any given user

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error when trying to remove a member from theban_list

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jewel wrote: When I try to remove a member from a ban_list, I receive an error message. It only says: Error (in red) Bad email address for option ban_list and then all the banned member are listed. I am correctly removing the member. Any ideas? One of the addresses in the resultant list

[Mailman-Users] Log entries refer to which list?

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
I was trying to determine if a message was sent to the lists it should have been sent to, and see two different types of entries in my SMTP log: Aug 24 16:23:57 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 41 recips, completed in 8.864 seconds Aug 24 16:23:58 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
liste yoneticisi wrote: Its OK. I want to share the script: - #!/bin/bash MONTH=`date +'%b'` echo $MONTH MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
Allan Trick wrote: I'm just reporting back that in the scenario I was describing earlier in this thread, I've checked logs and it appears that Mailman did do what it was supposed to and deliver a message to all 20 of our lists. So the fact that any given user who is subscribed to all

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem about a statistic script

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
liste yoneticisi wrote: Its OK. I want to share the script: - #!/bin/bash MONTH=`date +'%b'` echo $MONTH MAILMANDIR=/cwis/htdocs/mailman POSTLOG=$MAILMANDIR/logs/post LISTLISTS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_lists LISTMEMBERS=$MAILMANDIR/bin/list_members

Re: [Mailman-Users] setting moderator password with command line

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Oleg D. wrote: Alan Holmes wrote: Is there a way to set the moderator password with one of the command line tools? $PREFIX/mailman/bin/mmsitepass No! mmsitepass sets only the site admin password or the sitewide list creator password. There is bin/change_pw that can be used to change a

Re: [Mailman-Users] qmail setup question

2006-08-25 Thread Peter Horst
Mark Sapiro wrote: Peter Horst wrote: Solve what? :-) I appreciate your taking the time to answer, but my question was what does '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s letters mean? What's a letter? I'm saying that fundamentally I don't understand what the part I quoted even means, so I have nothing

Re: [Mailman-Users] setting moderator password with command line

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
Mark Sapiro wrote: Oleg D. wrote: Alan Holmes wrote: Is there a way to set the moderator password with one of the command line tools? $PREFIX/mailman/bin/mmsitepass No! mmsitepass sets only the site admin password or the sitewide list creator password.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Log entries refer to which list?

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allan Trick wrote: I was trying to determine if a message was sent to the lists it should have been sent to, and see two different types of entries in my SMTP log: Aug 24 16:23:57 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 41 recips, completed in 8.864 seconds This is a delivery of one

Re: [Mailman-Users] Log entries refer to which list?

2006-08-25 Thread Oleg D.
Mark Sapiro wrote: Allan Trick wrote: I was trying to determine if a message was sent to the lists it should have been sent to, and see two different types of entries in my SMTP log: Aug 24 16:23:57 2006 (18946) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 41 recips, completed in 8.864

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jon Loose wrote: Thanks Brad/Mark for comments. It seems outlook is to blame for the message ids. Re: Security, I will pass back to the list anything I find that's simple enough for me! The potential feature set of 2.2 looks good. Any guesstimates on when this will be coming?(!) Are there

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security

2006-08-25 Thread Jon Loose
Thanks for lots of good/useful news here - especially the tentative beta release date! On running dumpdb, I noticed a couple of long-standing invitations. When an invitation is issued, is there a time-period after which mailman uninvites the individual concerned? The ability to produce

[Mailman-Users] lists within lists

2006-08-25 Thread Spyro Polymiadis
Hi all, We're running a site with a mailman 2.1.5 configuration with 40-50 lists on it, and some lists have a list address as a subscriber to the list.. ie the general@ list might have a bunch of individual addresses and an otherlist@ address also as a member, (and the otherlist@ also contains

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message IDs Security

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jon Loose wrote: On running dumpdb, I noticed a couple of long-standing invitations. When an invitation is issued, is there a time-period after which mailman uninvites the individual concerned? All pending requests including invitations expire after PENDING_REQUEST_LIFE which is set in

Re: [Mailman-Users] lists within lists

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Spyro Polymiadis wrote: My question is, is there a way to have mailman not include the 2nd subject tag when posting to the general@ list (for the otherlist@ subscribers)? but also still retain it when sending explicitly to otherlist@ Not without modifying Mailman code. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 8/25/06 8:07 AM, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Security for one. Much of the impetus for releasing later versions in the 2.1.X branch was for that reason. I don't know what, if anything, RedHat is doing about backporting the security changes. For things in general, they are pretty good

[Mailman-Users] lists within lists

2006-08-25 Thread Spyro Polymiadis
Hi all, We're running a site with a mailman 2.1.5 configuration with 40-50 lists on it, and some lists have a list address as a subscriber to the list.. ie the general@ list might have a bunch of individual addresses and an otherlist@ address also as a member, (and the otherlist@ also contains

[Mailman-Users] lists within lists

2006-08-25 Thread Spyro Polymiadis
Hi all, We're running a site with a mailman 2.1.5 configuration with 40-50 lists on it, and some lists have a list address as a subscriber to the list.. ie the general@ list might have a bunch of individual addresses and an otherlist@ address also as a member, (and the otherlist@ also contains

[Mailman-Users] lists within lists

2006-08-25 Thread Spyro Polymiadis
Hi all, We're running a site with a mailman 2.1.5 configuration with 40-50 lists on it, and some lists have a list address as a subscriber to the list.. ie the general@ list might have a bunch of individual addresses and an otherlist@ address also as a member, (and the otherlist@ also contains

[Mailman-Users] Mailman not working...help pls

2006-08-25 Thread ed
I'm having problems with a maillman installation that *used* to work fine. I'm not quite sure what stopped working. i don't believe any updates or changes were made on the server since the last time it worked and when it stopped working. I'm running Mailman 2.1.8 on Mac OS X 10.4.7. The MTA is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not working...help pls

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
ed wrote: Can someone help me on the next steps of troubleshooting? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

[Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
Sorry to post so many questions in the space of a week to this list. I work at a school and all the changes we make to our mailing lists tend to take place just once a year--now. So in a few days I'll probably go away and you won't hear from me again till next summer. :-) My question this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?

2006-08-25 Thread Dragon
Allan Trick sent the message below at 13:49 8/25/2006: Sorry to post so many questions in the space of a week to this list. I work at a school and all the changes we make to our mailing lists tend to take place just once a year--now. So in a few days I'll probably go away and you won't hear from

Re: [Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
At 04:30 PM 8/25/2006, Dragon wrote: You can do this easily from the web interface and not have to change the setting for each individual user. On the Privacy Options-Sender Filters page there is a setting to control if new members are moderated by default. You would want to set this to No

Re: [Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?

2006-08-25 Thread Dragon
Dragon sent the message below at 14:30 8/25/2006: Allan Trick sent the message below at 13:49 8/25/2006: Sorry to post so many questions in the space of a week to this list. I work at a school and all the changes we make to our mailing lists tend to take place just once a year--now. So in a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allan Trick wrote: My question this time is: is there a simpler way to subscribe one person to all 20 of our lists, and have the 'mod' bit unchecked for her? I've been going into each list thru the web interface, selecting Mass Subscription, adding the person, and then going to the

[Mailman-Users] upgrading, changing MTA and moving between servers

2006-08-25 Thread Kim Leandersson
Hi, For starters I have read the documentation available and done some googleing before this post. Today we have about 25-30 lists running on an old Debian Woody installation with postfix as MTA. Since the installation is old Mailman runs version 2.0.11. Our new server is running Qmail, Rhel4

Re: [Mailman-Users] upgrading, changing MTA and moving between servers

2006-08-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kim Leandersson wrote: I've read some pages telling me that the administrative addresses has changed between these versions. I'm not sure if the best way is: 1) to create the lists on the new server, use the config-list script to export the config and the import this on the new server Not the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman

2006-08-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:51 AM -0400 2006-08-25, Gary Hall wrote: I have set up a test list that only has the names of the principles of this mailing endeavor. We will first send out the adv to ourselves and be sure the adv looks as we expect it too and not other problems crop up. After the test run we will

Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman

2006-08-25 Thread Gary Hall
Hi Brad, Good thoughts - thanks. This guy who is formulating the advertisements is the only one who is authorized to send mail to the server and have it delivered to the list. I am going to pass on your knowledge to him and hopefully he will take heed. Thanks again. Warm regards, Gary

Re: [Mailman-Users] Need to stop mailman

2006-08-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:24 PM -0400 2006-08-25, Gary Hall wrote: This guy who is formulating the advertisements is the only one who is authorized to send mail to the server and have it delivered to the list. I am going to pass on your knowledge to him and hopefully he will take heed. Please note, my