Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
SMTPHOST...in mm_cfg.py...no info on DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' MTA = 'Manual' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' If the above are actually indented, this is bad. They shouldn't be. Is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
Also...I just found a discussion on the mailman archives of... Low level smtp error. I have a different error than this individual had, the error they listed was... an 16 17:12:32 2007 (9353) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection refused'), msgid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 16 17:12:32 2007

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: Jason Luck SMTPHOST...in mm_cfg.py...no info on DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' MTA = 'Manual' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' If the above are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
In my set-up...mm_cfg.py is located... /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ...and Defaults.py is located... /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Baris Basar wrote: Can i ask you something? Where's mm_cfg.py?? -Original Message- From:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: SMTPHOST...in mm_cfg.py...no info on DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' MTA = 'Manual' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' If the above are actually indented, this is bad. They

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: Also...I just found a discussion on the mailman archives of... Low level smtp error. And I wonder why you didn't find FAQ 6.14 which addresses your problem specifically. telnet localhost 25 ...from the mailman box. I just tried that command from the mailman box and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: When I look in my /etc/hosts file...I have no entries. So I just added... 127.0.0.1 localhost ...and restarted the network. That should help. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Baris Basar wrote: I'm using xp pro op. Sys. Are you running Mailman on this? If so, and if you have anything to add to http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.002.htp, let us know. Jason Luck wrote: In my set-up...mm_cfg.py is located... /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: Jason Luck wrote: Also...I just found a discussion on the mailman archives of... Low level smtp error. And I wonder why you didn't find FAQ 6.14 which addresses your problem specifically. I didn't know enough to look into the specific log

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: I didn't know enough to look into the specific log files that gave me the information until I had started this thread. 6.14 looks helpful. But I looked in resolv.conf and have the following: ; generated by /sbin/dhclient-script search localdomain nameserver 24.25.5.60

[Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Mike Starr
I just took over administering a list and get a few spam messages to the list from non-members. I looked at the available information and couldn't figure out how to set the list admin controls to automatically reject any message to the list from a non-member. We're a small group with a tightly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike Starr wrote: I just took over administering a list and get a few spam messages to the list from non-members. I looked at the available information and couldn't figure out how to set the list admin controls to automatically reject any message to the list from a non-member. We're a small group

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 2/23/07, Mike Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just took over administering a list and get a few spam messages to the list from non-members. I looked at the available information and couldn't figure out how to set the list admin controls to automatically reject any message to the list from

[Mailman-Users] message delivered to list but altered for some

2007-02-23 Thread Michael Rainey
A message is delivered to all list members, but some members get full message, while some a very abbreviated message with much of message not included. (There are many links in message but this has not been an issue previously.) I cannot now ascertain how many recipients fall into each

[Mailman-Users] list member address change by moderator

2007-02-23 Thread vancleef
Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member address without going through the confirmation dialog. I've got a case where [EMAIL PROTECTED] wants to become [EMAIL PROTECTED] While the confirmation goes to newisp.com and requires the listmember response, I'd prefer to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike Starr wrote: Thanks so much for the help; I've set it to Reject for the moment. Could you expand on why Discard might be better? Are there spam issues with the concept of sending a rejection email? Yes. I send spam to your list spoofing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the sender. You send a reject

Re: [Mailman-Users] list member address change by moderator

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member address without going through the confirmation dialog. You can do it with a withlist script. In fact, I just wrote one. See http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/ or

Re: [Mailman-Users] message delivered to list but altered for some

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Rainey wrote: A message is delivered to all list members, but some members get full message, while some a very abbreviated message with much of message not included. (There are many links in message but this has not been an issue previously.) I cannot now ascertain how many

Re: [Mailman-Users] list member address change by moderator

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member address without going through the confirmation dialog. You can do it with a withlist script. In fact, I just wrote one. See http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/ or

Re: [Mailman-Users] list member address change by moderator

2007-02-23 Thread Dragon
Mark Sapiro sent the message below at 13:59 2/23/2007: Mark Sapiro wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member address without going through the confirmation dialog. You can do it with a withlist script. In fact, I just wrote one.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: Jason Luck wrote: I didn't know enough to look into the specific log files that gave me the information until I had started this thread. 6.14 looks helpful. But I looked in resolv.conf and have the following: ; generated by

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: ...but...I'm not able to... (a) receive any email when posted to a list I'm subscribed to. (b) and there is not record in the archives of these messages. (c) I've checked the following logs...maillog, smtp, smtp-failure and they are not posting anything. It seems as though

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
That's right. The delay notice below says it was unable to connect to an SMTP server at falconfootball.org. Is your MTA at falconfootball.org listening for connects on port 25 from the outside? grep Port sendmail.cf O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA #O

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: grep Port sendmail.cf O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA #O ClientPortOptions=Family=inet, Address=0.0.0.0 I don't know sendmail configuration, but it seems you've only told it to listen on the local loopback port 127.0.0.1 netstat -na |grep :25 tcp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
Thanks for the response, unfortunately my limited knowledge on these matters leaves me at a dead end. Not sure how to change any of these items or where to go from here. On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: Jason Luck wrote: grep Port sendmail.cf O

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: Thanks for the response, unfortunately my limited knowledge on these matters leaves me at a dead end. Not sure how to change any of these items or where to go from here. You fix it in your sendmail configuration by telling sendmail to listen for port 25 connects from

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:47 AM -0800 2/23/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: Discard is better than Reject unless you feel you might receive non-member posts for which it is important to respond in some way, i.e. some legitimate request from a non-member who would assume the request was received in the absence of a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:53 AM -0800 2/23/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: Yes. I send spam to your list spoofing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the sender. You send a reject message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which has my original spam attached. Poor joe receives my spam from you - not a good thing. Yes, but Mailman will only send

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not

2007-02-23 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: Jason Luck wrote: Thanks for the response, unfortunately my limited knowledge on these matters leaves me at a dead end. Not sure how to change any of these items or where to go from here. You fix it in your sendmail configuration by telling

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: Jason Luck wrote: Thanks for the response, unfortunately my limited knowledge on these matters leaves me at a dead end. Not sure how to change any of these items or where to go from here. You