Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

Brad Knowles writes: > Then you must not have read the FAQ I referenced. Please, Brad, don't go there. You know he's not going to change his mind, neither are you, or me, but what matters is that neither will Barry. So it's a moot point. -- M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorization required with FireFox 3

Hi, thanks for your replies. - I've deleted all cookies - Cleared the browser-cache but to login at the password prompt does not work. BUT: Giving the password directly with the ?adminpw= argument works perfectly. Don't know why this works, but not through the other way (password prompt).

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to list instead of poster (was: Muti-Mailmaninstall)

Allan Odgaard writes: [ repetitive lobbying removed ] Please stop lobbying, period, and move these discussions off this list. We heard you the first time, you've been told the appropriate venue. Now this is just noise interfering with helping users with their everyday problems. If you really w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

For users who have their mail go through procmail the problem can be fixed by a rule like the following. But in light of Brads letter, I feel it is necessary to add a disclaimer saying that if this setting gets you killed or fired, I cannot be held responsible! :p :0 fw * [EMAIL PRO

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recipients missing on list post

Stefan Förster wrote: > >Now, 22+26+19+158 equals 225 and not 226 - no rejected mails, no >NOQUEUE entries. Either Postfix or Mailman is lying. How can I find >out which one it is, aside from running ngrep/tcpdump? I'm not sure if this is better, but if your Python is 2.4 or later, see

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing questions (feature, or bug?)

Hank van Cleef wrote: > >However, I've also gotten about fifty other bounce disables on the 2.0 >score. Some investigation shows that affected users had accumulated >two bounces several months ago, but none since. From what I see in >the bounce logs still in my rotation, it appears that the bounc

[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing questions (feature, or bug?)

The background scenario is that I have been experiencing the "now you see it/now you don't" big-consumer-internet mail service spam blocking. This week it is Verizon.net. Basically, mail to verizon.net addresses failed and bounced for a 24 hour period on the 12th. Service appeared to have been

[Mailman-Users] GPLv3

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As you know, GNU Mailman has been an official GNU project for almost its entire life. As such, our project receives certain benefits and has certain responsibilities. One of our responsibilities is to adopt the standard GNU licensing regime.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

Charles Marcus wrote: Whats the big deal anyway? If you want lists configured to reply to the list, just set it that way. What difference does it make what the default is? The point is that there are lots of MUAs out there that are broken, and if you screw with the Reply-To: header, they are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

Terri Oda wrote: If Mailman is converting html->text, I think it does add line-wrapping as a side effect of the conversion. I don't know if this is what you're seeing, though. But Mailman doesn't do the actual conversion itself. IIRC, it just calls "lynx" to do the line-wrapping. Either t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

Mark Sapiro wrote: >Jan Steinman wrote: > >>Interesting. The only email that I send out that gets wrapped is stuff that >>goes through Mailman. I can send the exact same thing to a postfix alias of >>exactly the same people, and it doesn't get wrapped. and >>In fact, I'd venture to guess that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

On 6/19/2008, Brad Knowles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Correct. The Mailman developers feel that forcing all replies to go back to the list causes much more harm than good, see FAQ 3.48 at . Whats the big deal anyway? If you want lists configured to reply to the li

Re: [Mailman-Users] list messages lost to Hotmail subscribers lost

I don't know what happened, but earlier this morning, my subscribers started getting list messages delivered on Hotmail again. We didn't do anything, other than to ask a few of our subscribers to add our domain to their "Safe List". At least for now, our issue seems to have solved itself .. unt

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

Jan Steinman wrote: >On 19 Jun 08, at 12:02, Steve Burling wrote: > >> For what it's worth, it didn't arrive line-wrapped at my end. The >> wider I made my mail window, the longer the lines got. > >Interestinger and interestinger... the text Steve says wasn't line- >wrapped became so when quot

Re: [Mailman-Users] archives generation on new server

Manuel Goepfert wrote: > >Actually already when generating my archives with bin/arch I have some >problems, the accents are not properly handled meaning I find the current >date/time in emails that are back in 2005 just because the month in the >header contains a "é" for example. Date: headers sh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

On 19-Jun-08, at 2:46 PM, Jan Steinman wrote: So it may well be true that "Mailman doesn't do line wrapping," but from my perspective, it's doing something that *causes* line wrapping to happen! If Mailman is converting html->text, I think it does add line- wrapping as a side effect of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

On 19 Jun 08, at 12:02, Steve Burling wrote: --On June 19, 2008 11:46:44 AM -0700 Jan Steinman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In fact, I'd venture to guess that this email, which is sent to the list and to Mark and I on the Cc: will show up wrapped on the list, and not wrapped on the Cc's.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

--On June 19, 2008 11:46:44 AM -0700 Jan Steinman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In fact, I'd venture to guess that this email, which is sent to the list and to Mark and I on the Cc: will show up wrapped on the list, and not wrapped on the Cc's. To which I reply: For what it's worth, it didn't a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

On 19 Jun 08, at 10:57, Mark Sapiro wrote: Is there a place I can adjust the length to be much longer, or perhaps to disable word-wrapping altogether? Mailman doesn't do line wrapping. Interesting. The only email that I send out that gets wrapped is stuff that goes through Mailman. I c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:54:04 -0500 From: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 6/18/08, Cyndi Norwitz wrote: > I second this. Subscribers losing their password and asking me to make > changes for them is one of my biggest timesinks, outside of moderation. I don't molly-coddl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Just Stop Working

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Everything was working fine. I seriously have no idea why mailman stopped >working. It was like one day, I got a call, and it was no longer working. > when i stop/start/restart with mailmanctl, things seem fine, no errors. >The web interface appears to work fine. I h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

Jan Steinman wrote: > >I often send out long links to unsophisticated audiences, who then >tell me "the link is broken" when Mailman breaks the link in order to >wrap the line to some specific length. I'd rather not go the tinyurl >opaque reference route, since the links I send are meaningful

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

Allan Odgaard wrote: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Web+Interface This is great, but how should we use it? :) This entire discussion belongs on the mailman-developers list, not mailman-users. I say this as the co-moderator for both of the lists in question. -- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Mailman-Users] archives generation on new server

Hi Mark, > I suspect the issue is that the archive pages are in one character set (iso-8859-1 ?) and the web server is declaring them to be something else (utf-8 ?). I was not clear in my initial email. Actually already when generating my archives with bin/arch I have some problems, the accents

[Mailman-Users] Disable word-wrap?

I've done a quick scan of wiki.list.org, used grep and locate to try to find config options, and still cannot determine how to adjust the word-wrapping behaviour of Mailman. I often send out long links to unsophisticated audiences, who then tell me "the link is broken" when Mailman breaks t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to list instead of poster

Allan Odgaard wrote: I never understood why they have this recommendation or even default setting and it has always bothered me when lists I subscribe to does not change away from the default (fortunately majority of lists _do_ change it). See FAQ 3.48 at . The

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

On 19-Jun-08, at 12:13 PM, Allan Odgaard wrote: On 18 Jun 2008, at 20:32, Terri Oda wrote: I've opened up a new page on the wiki to get more of a process going: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Web+Interface This is great, but how should we use it? :) Sign up for a wiki account and either

Re: [Mailman-Users] Muti-Mailman install

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also it seems clicking reply on a msg here does a off list reply. So all my previous reply`s were done off list. Correct. The Mailman developers feel that forcing all replies to go back to the list causes much more harm than good, see FAQ 3.48 at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorization required with FireFox 3

Sascha Schmidt wrote: yesterday, 2 days after the release of FireFox 3 I'm trying to login to my mailman 2.1.10 installation. After entering the correct password the errormessage "Authorization failed" is shown. Deleting the Browser Cache/Cookies didn't fix the problem. There's no problem lo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web UI request

On 18 Jun 2008, at 20:32, Terri Oda wrote: [...] I've opened up a new page on the wiki to get more of a process going: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Web+Interface This is great, but how should we use it? :) I think the easiest is simply to go through all settings, decide what is needed/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to list instead of poster (was:Muti-Mailmaninstall)

Allan Odgaard wrote: > >Here is how I would change all of the above: > > List replies go to: (o) Poster (recommended, more info) > ( ) The list > [x] Strip existing Reply-To header > ( ) Other: [

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Just Stop Working

Im using a qmailtoaster as described here: http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/CentOS_5_QmailToaster_Install My developers have insisted on using mailman instead of EZMLM. Its all the same to me. I have installed mailman into /home/mailman/mydomain/ Everything was working fine. I seriously h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to list instead of poster (was: Muti-Mailmaninstall)

On 19 Jun 2008, at 15:53, Mark Sapiro wrote: [...] You have said in another thread that these links contribute to excessive verbosity of the labels, but they often link to useful supplemental information. I don’t dispute that. I am sure there are lots of useful info there, but it drowns i

Re: [Mailman-Users] errors after hd crash

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > >We have had a HD crash and I had to bring the data back from a backup. I >fixed permissions, etc and it should work well now but on the website I get >Bug in Mailman version 2.1.10 > >We're sorry, we hit a bug! > >Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem

Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problems

Allan Odgaard wrote: >On 19 Jun 2008, at 00:24, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> You may consider it a bug if you wish. It is intentional (but still >> perhaps wrong) that the message is coerced to the character set of the >> list's preferred language when msg_header and/or msg_footer are added. > >I meant

Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply to list instead of poster (was: Muti-Mailmaninstall)

Allan Odgaard wrote: >On 19 Jun 2008, at 08:38, adsarebad-at-. wrote: > >> [...] >> Also it seems clicking reply on a msg here does a off list reply. So >> all my previous reply`s were done off list. > >It is the default for new Mailman installs and the admin UI even has: > > Where a

[Mailman-Users] Recipients missing on list post

Hello world, if the host running my Mailman installation is experiencing a high load (i.e., high CPU usage, many CPU cycles waiting for I/O), posts to some lists are sometimes sent out with about 1 in 300 subscribers missing. First of all, I verified that the recipients who didn't receive posts d

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorization required with FireFox 3

* Sascha Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yesterday, 2 days after the release of FireFox 3 I'm trying to login to > my mailman 2.1.10 installation. After entering the correct password the > errormessage "Authorization failed" is shown. Deleting the Browser > Cache/Cookies didn't fix the problem

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authorization required with FireFox 3

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sascha Schmidt Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:22 AM > > yesterday, 2 days after the release of FireFox 3 I'm trying > to login to my mailman 2.1.10 installation. After entering > the correct password the errormessage "Authorization

[Mailman-Users] errors after hd crash

Hello, We have had a HD crash and I had to bring the data back from a backup. I fixed permissions, etc and it should work well now but on the website I get Bug in Mailman version 2.1.10 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of tracebac

[Mailman-Users] Reply to list instead of poster (was: Muti-Mailman install)

On 19 Jun 2008, at 08:38, adsarebad-at-. wrote: [...] Also it seems clicking reply on a msg here does a off list reply. So all my previous reply`s were done off list. It is the default for new Mailman installs and the admin UI even has: Where are replies to list messages directe