On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 07:22 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> You aren't by chance seeing only the 152 "A"s (or whatever's first) and
> never looking at the other letters/digits?
Definitive count of list members:
sudo su - mailman
list_members |wc -l
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Allow from all
plus a couple of other configuration stanzas somewhere in apache's
config file inclusion tree.
The above example is from Gentoo Linux, but something similar will need
to be set up by any distribution which implements Mailman.
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On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 09:56 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> REMOVE_DKIM_HEADERS = Yes
So what are the negative implications of doing this?
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that libdomainkeys is in error here?
Your thoughts, good people?
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From: Jack McKinney
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To: Lindsay Haisley
Subject: Problem Solved!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:15:01 -0600
Well, problem identified, anyway. This is something that
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 15:30 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> >
> >I posted it on the launchpad site as a bug report with an attachment.
> >This looked like probably the best way to submit it. Apologies, Mark,
> >if there was some other
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 13:35 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:
> Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>
> > I don't know whether this contribution has been seen and rejected, or
> > gone unnoticed, or if Courier is considered to be such a minority MTA
> > that it's not worth conside
, or offer
it only to the Courier user community. Once again, though, if it would
be useful and possibly worth distributing with Mailman, I'll re-submit
it if someone will tell me where to post it.
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the receiving side to create
the appropriate symlink for public archives.
These scripts work fine for me, and I've used them successfully, with
minor variations, on two different major moves.
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27;s package management system, which is SOP for all Linux
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proper MTA
to default this address to anything in particular. This is done by the
MUA (or equivalent) which engages the MTA for the purpose of sending an
email, and if an envelope sender address isn't provided, the MTA will
complain and refuse to continue with a session.
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nough
deployed so that it can reliably be used as an accept/reject filtering
criterion. I tried to do it at one point on my mail servers and got
flack right away from customers who couldn't get their legitimate
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eader got the spam through and not have to
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cated. By default
(in Defaults.py) this is:
SENDER_HEADERS = ('from', None, 'reply-to', 'sender')
You can eliminate the envelope sender address from the mix by setting
this simply to:
SENDER_HEADERS = ('from', 'reply-to')
or drop 'reply-t
understand how to use the list, and even though they're listed
as list owner they can't post until they subscribe and unset their mod
flag (or use an Approved: pseudo-header).
Extreme paranoia is the ideal starting point for good Internet
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as considered a member of the
> list... is it?
No, unless someone subscribed it.
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flaws in the standards described in the email RFCs,
there's really no way around this.
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he stuff I see coming in that gets
shoved into moderation _looks_ as if people are trying to figure out how
to game the list.
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On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 14:34 -0700, Steve Lindemann wrote:
> Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> > Is it possible that the list mod or admin password got out? I believe
> > than anyone can post to a moderated list by putting an "Approved:
> > " header or pseudo-header in a pos
#x27;t
> find any reason for it and have to wonder if I'm checking everything.
> I've looked thru everything that makes sense and much that doesn't. If
> I had hair I'd be pulling it out!
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his would not require a re-design of SMTP, only an extension of it.
If this were feasible, it would certainly spur the deployment of IPv6
which could stand a kick in the ass.
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t;postmaster" which, by RFC, must be
supported. Email has evolved more along the lines of the TCP/IP packet
paradigm rather than that associated with postal hard-copy snail-mail.
There are aspects of email that resemble ICMP packets far more than they
resemble Christmas cards.
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, but
as an IPP I can tell you this. If someone's website goes down they call
you and complain. If their email goes down they come looking for you
with a rope and a lawyer! Fortunately, I've never had to deal with the
latter.
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On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:15 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> >
> >I was intrigued by your comments on the economics of spam, which
> >prompted me to introduce pre-filtering on one of my servers, possibly
> >later on both of them. Where did
flow based on successful SMTP
delivery? Any references on the subject will be appreciated.
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On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 11:25 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Lindsay Haisley writes:
> > On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 19:35 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > > > Courier doesn't need milters. Maildrop can be run in what's called
> > > > "em
; dropping it.
Oh, Ok. Thanks. I just didn't understand the terminology.
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On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 14:24 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:
> I'd also
> like to make sure that SpamAssassin is set up to run interactively.
What do you mean by this. Can shell account users not interactively use
spamc or spamassassin from a command prompt?
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t), and because I'm a SOHO business, and a small one at that,
I can't afford dedicated analytical appliances and proprietary software
for this, most of which is outside my budget. There's doubtless more I
can do.
It's a beautiful day, and I'm wasting it sitting indoors in fr
On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 12:06 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 11:30 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
> > > listowner address sends a "Maintenance Over" message to a bunch of
> > > machi
FSH. Normally one would
expect '/home/crippen'. Is this actually how things are configured?
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tion of knowing that some spammer, somewhere _might_ be annoyed
or inconvenienced by seeing the bounce notices from their server. I've
heard all the arguments about CPU usage and system load involved in
accepting and processing spam, but my service is a relatively small one
and my system l
On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 14:49 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Lindsay Haisley writes:
>
> > So if I can't refuse potential spam at the SMTP front door, what
> > difference does it make whether it gets detected in Mailman or the MTA?
>
> None. But one still wonde
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 23:38 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mailman already has a SpamDetect module which is reasonably useless, and
> > discards (not rejects) spam internally. What I'd really like is a way
>
On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 13:54 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Brad Knowles writes:
> > Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>
> > > The problem with this is that no spam detection method is 100%
> > > effective, and with SpamAssassin there's some overlap between set
legant and flexible solutions. And then people who
told me not to do these things want to know how I got things to work the
way I did ;-)
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On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 11:23 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:
> Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>
> > I note that Brad doesn't mention this solution in his reply to you, so
> > it may be frowned upon officially, but I've found it helpful.
>
> SpamAssassin is one good an
o
2.1.11". See the list archive. I use SpamAssassin in this way and cut
down substantially on the volume of spam reaching list moderators.
I note that Brad doesn't mention this solution in his reply to you, so
it may be frowned upon officially, but I've found it helpful.
ed
SpamAssassin.py pretty much as per your prescription, but was in the
progress of testing things out before I wrote this list and declared the
problem fixed.
Since we have a limited number of lists here I may just nuke the shunted
messages here and notify the list owners to check their pending
r
unner.py",
line 153, in _dopipeline
File "/usr/lib64/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamAssassin.py", line 81, in
process
matches_p(sender, mlist.accept_these_nonmembers):
TypeError: matches_p() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)
I don't know if these problems are related, b
7;list' or 'domain'
> template because it is a 'site' message.
This is probably as good an idea as there is. Where does one find, or
place "list" templates so as distinguish them from "site" templates?
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at the code, these addresses appear to rely on the singular
variable MAILMAN_SITE_LIST which is site-wide and can't be set per-list.
Is there any way to fix this?
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and The Fine Manuals I'm stumped. Could someone point
> me in the right direction? Or does Mailman not do this at all and I
> should look into that user's email client?
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Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 12:28:56AM CDT
> Lindsay Haisley writes:
>
> > Well-written technical documentation, however, is also somewhat
> > rarer than one might hope.
>
> True. But Mailman's is well better than average in my experience
.no is automatically deleted and
> I never see it. Is that possible, per list or even per domain/for
> all lists?
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lman-users
> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
> Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
> Unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/fmouse-mailman%40fmp.com
>
> Security Policy:
> http://w
your mail
server. Load balancing the job across several servers might be appropriate.
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Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 01:24:42AM CDT
> Lindsay Haisley writes:
> > For a project I'm working on I just de-geeked the Namazu search
> > engine example page, which used Emacs, FreeBSD and other techie
> > terms as search word examples. I r
eed to delete messages starting with a From line and ending with the
line just before the From line on any message not deleted. Then run arch
--wipe listname and you'll get what you expect.
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But Mark's right. You can't do it as the list admin or owner from the web UI,
which is probably a more accurate answer to your question.
Thus spake Lindsay Haisley on Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 09:15:05PM CDT
> Thus spake Ken Winter on Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:49:11PM CDT
> > Is it
Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
> Unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/fmouse-mailman%40fmp.com
>
> Security Policy:
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
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I replaced all the geek words with fruits and vegetables. Everyone understands
fruits and vegetables ;-)
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ut doing anything but modifying the templates.
I probably ought to file a feature request that any template which might need
it should support a keyword which contains the results of a call to
mlist.internal_name() - in particular archtoc.html and archtocnombox.html :-)
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I oughta post this on the dev list. Can anyone here answer it? Brad,
maybe I'll see you Thursday and you can answer this personally.
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Well, I found
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers@python.org/msg09827.html which
rather explains this, and identifies it as a mailman bug.
Does anyone know if this has been addressed, or will be addressed in new
versions of mailman?
Thus spake Lindsay Haisley on Mon, Sep 18, 2006
ilman-users/fmouse-mailman%40fmp.com
>
> Security Policy:
> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
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Thus spake Lindsay Haisley on Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 03:41:00PM CDT
> this on a 'nix-like OS since you mention permissions. Make sure that
> /usr/local/mailman/bin/add_members has either world read and execute
> permissions, or group read and execute permissions (dicey f
> Anne
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I just received a message via one of my list admins from a subscriber who was
unsubscribed from a list based on a bounce from last year. The subscriber got
a message with the following:
> Your membership in the mailing list . has been disabled
> due to excessive bounces The last bounce rece
there, and look
like they're successful, look for entries relating to posts from the list
server to you.
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7;m not sure which takes precedence, but I believe that
if one is found among the subscribed members, and the mod flag is set for
that address, then that trumps the allowed non-members list.
I could be all wet on this, but I've seen the same problem with some of my
customers' lists from time to
Thus spake Mark Sapiro on Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 07:25:58PM CST
> Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>
> >I run a small hosting service with a number of mailman lists. I need to
> >move all the lists to a new server - list config, subscribers, subscriber
> >options, archives, the wh
ere must be one somewhere.
If anyone knows of such documentation, please point me to it.
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TECTED]" but not one for
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Adding an appropriate entry in the auth db for
the latter solved the problem and I could safely remove my hack.
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