Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest formatting--clickable TOC?

2016-09-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 9/2/2016 6:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 09/02/2016 02:00 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: >> >> I requested a similar feature a while ago: >> >> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2014-December/078192.html > > > And my responses at >

[Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

2016-02-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/28/2016 1:19 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If that doesn't make it obvious what you need to do, you might want to > tell us something about your configuration and use case. What version > of Mailman? Did you install as a package from a distribution or from > source?

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-15 Thread Tanstaafl
-users/tanstaafl%40libertytrek.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/9/2015 11:21 AM, Carl Zwanzig c...@tuunq.com wrote: On 4/9/2015 8:07 AM, Mike Starr wrote: Great example (below) of why I don't like bottom posting I'd say it was a much better example of not trimming content and making it presentable; the quoted part could have been cut to 4-5 lines

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/6/2015 10:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: It's not just the popup windows. It's not just the sites that hijack the right-click menu. It's not just the autoplay videos. It's not even the browser crashes! (Mostly Opera, Firefox seems a bit more stable.) Any one of them

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/3/2015 7:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:09:12PM -0700, David Benfell wrote: with top-posters subject to flaming. But outside that world, I find top-posting to be the norm. I agree with the logic of bottom-posting, because it

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Tanstaafl
Please don't send direct to me, I'm on the list. On 4/2/2015 3:13 PM, Andrew Stuart andrew.stu...@supercoders.com.au wrote: I’d like it if digests could be either the full text of the emails or just a list of subject lines. ? Whats wrong with both? Every digest I've ever subscribed to has the

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/2/2015 2:18 PM, Mike Starr m...@writestarr.com wrote: I'm a top-poster and not ashamed of it. If I'm following a message thread, I remember the discussion and don't want to have to scroll through a weeks worth of responses just to get to the new content. This would only happen if you

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/2/2015 1:45 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens j...@forestfield.org wrote: I also think we should stop offering mailing list digests, particularly because I don't see a need for them now that bandwidth to most Internet users is plentiful (plentiful enough to see widespread use of HTML email, for

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-04-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/19/2015 9:15 PM, Richard Damon rich...@damon-family.org wrote: Another reason that I have been told by some people that they want people to top post is that their client will show in the message list a summary of the first line of the message, and they want that to be the new content

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/24/2015 10:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: What Outlook, Hotmail etc. call Rich Text is in fact HTML, not to be confused with Microsoft's interchange Rich Text Format, RTF. And Outlook's 'HTML' is badly broken due to its reliance on the Word HTML rendering engine. Why

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/22/2015 12:14 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: Nowhere in the visible UI is Smart Reply mentioned, nor is it listed in the preferences menu. This may be a default of the installation rather than of of T-bird itself. If you get into customize mode for that toolbar (right-click on

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 8:38 PM, Richard Damon rich...@damon-family.org wrote: Thunderbird isn't quite like that, but when I reply to a message from the list I am given 3 options: Reply Reply All Reply to List Do you mean that you see a single button with a drop-down that provides these three

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 2:48 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 14:37 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: No, the point is you apparently can't simply acknowledge that you mis-spoke/made a mistake. Tanstaafl, it it will make you happy, I _officially_ acknowledge that I made a mistake

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/21/2015 12:55 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: If I were writing an MUA, I'd make each addressee a button which replies to them only.[1] For the explicit reply button, I'd automatically put the list-post and author in To:, provide an obvious delete button on each (as

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 10:03 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 03/20/2015 06:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 1:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: I don't know of anybody who prefers bottom-posting (and it's a bad idea to use that term as I've seen newbies instructed to bottom-post do exactly that, leaving 50 lines of original text and adding two lines at the bottom).

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came from a list and offer a Reply to List option in addition to a simple reply, which generally

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 9:58 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote: On Mar 20, 2015, at 09:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: I'd really like to know which email user agents really do this. In my experience, none of the ones used by 99+% of the worlds population actually use do this. I'm sure I'm proudly

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 10:27 AM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: My MUA of choice is Evolution, formerly from Ximian but now a gnome GPL project. It has this feature, as does Thunderbird, which is fairly popular. I was under the impression that Outlook and/or Outlook Express had it too, but I'm

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2015 11:09 AM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote: On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 10:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: You said In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came from a list and offer a Reply

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman RSS patch, revised

2015-03-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/15/2015 2:40 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Hey, if anybody is interested in *using* this patch, speak up *now*, because tomoorwr GSoC intern applications open. I can add this to the task list (specifially, port to MM3 and maintain for MM2 preetty please). But I'd

[Mailman-Users] max_message_size, how do I change behavior (reject, instead of hold for moderation) and/or notification message (when exceeded)

2015-02-25 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, Ok, I did this a very long time ago, and can't for the life of me remember where/how I did this... I have some lists that have a max_size set, and when someone sends an email that exceeds this size, it gets held for moderation, and the sender gets a notification of this, but it is a

Re: [Mailman-Users] max_message_size, how do I change behavior (reject, instead of hold for moderation) and/or notification message (when exceeded)

2015-02-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/25/2015 10:21 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: It is possible you just modified the messages in the MessageTooBig class definition in Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py. The postheld.txt template is also involved in the notice to the user, but it is used for all held messages so it seems

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest indexes

2014-12-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 12/16/2014 6:40 AM, Andrew Hodgson and...@hodgsonfamily.org wrote: I run a high volume list (around 80 messages per day), and we have complaints from digest users that the digests are difficult to work with. One requested feature is could the digests be in HTML format, and a link be

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/30/2014 4:42 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Tanstaafl writes: It *does*... It does?? As you described it, he can let passwordmaker choose his password. But he says he can't do that. Or he can specify the whole password as the prefix, which is insecure. And AIUI

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/30/2014 5:03 AM, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote: Tanstaafl writes: This isn't very secure, because the password is then stored inside the .rdf file, but it will work. So you are correct about it not being secure. How insecure, I don't know. Is this rdf file encrypted? Do you need

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/29/2014 4:28 AM, Lucio Chiappetti lu...@lambrate.inaf.it wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2014, Tanstaafl wrote: You can create multiple accounts for the same URL with passwordmaker, so I think you just don';t understand totally how it works. That's quite possible. I did not install it, but read

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/29/2014 1:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Tanstaafl writes: You can create multiple accounts for the same URL with passwordmaker, so I think you just don';t understand totally how it works. I have no clue what you're talking about. The OP shares a password

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/29/2014 2:34 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: You had two rounds to figure out what he was asking for, and missed it twice. No, I didn't miss it, I didn't understand that *he* didn't understand... Then you tell him he doesn't understand totally how it works. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/27/2014 6:11 AM, Lucio Chiappetti lu...@lambrate.inaf.it wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2014, Tanstaafl wrote: On 5/26/2014 8:21 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: Is anybody aware of any firefox add-on which allows to remember multiple password for one hostname (e.g. based on the full url of the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/26/2014 8:21 AM, Lucio Chiappetti lu...@lambrate.inaf.it wrote: Is anybody aware of any firefox add-on which allows to remember multiple password for one hostname (e.g. based on the full url of the list admin page) ? My all time favorite: www.passwordmaker.org Doesn't store passwords

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem after changing the server name

2014-01-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-05 12:05 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 01/05/2014 08:00 AM, Dominique Asselineau wrote: It seeems the server name is encoded in file /var/lib/mailman/lists/list-name/config.pck updated by the command config_list -i config-file-name, but i do not find manner to modify

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem after changing the server name

2014-01-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-05 12:53 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Assuming you have only one URL domain and email domain and they are properly set as DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, what you need to run after changing DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN is just bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url or to see what

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Admin pages repeatedly asking for password after server migration

2014-01-04 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, I have googled, and can't seem to find the exact answer to this question. Cookies are enabled (I use the same browser to access the mailman admin pages on the old server and those don't do this)... Would someone please point me to the FAQ page for how to resolve this (I'm sure it is

[Mailman-Users] SOLVED: Re: Mailman Admin pages repeatedly asking for password after server migration

2014-01-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-04 8:58 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I have googled, and can't seem to find the exact answer to this question. Cookies are enabled (I use the same browser to access the mailman admin pages on the old server and those don't do this)... Would someone please point me

Re: [Mailman-Users] members of my group not being able to send messages

2014-01-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-02 3:09 AM, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com wrote: I run a small friendly group, a couple of members are using the same isp, they are having problems sending messages to the group on mailman and also receiving messages from the group, not sure what I can do about this? Any

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Tanstaafl
(Sorry for replying to an older thread, I'm going back through older unread mails) Maybe these should be made an official part of mailman's extra tools? And maybe updated to work with MM3? On 2013-11-05 2:46 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmouse-mail...@fmp.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 13:14 -0600,

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-20 10:08 AM, Lindsay Haisley fmouse-mail...@fmp.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 14:01 +0100, Roel Wagenaar wrote: And maybe you could stop TOP-posting? In my humble opinion, any post that's less that a visual page in length is more conveniently read if it's top-posted, especially

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-08 7:13 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: So, the doesn't occur with a single message to a single list, but it occurs when Postfix receives six messages at once FROM the lists-all list. Also your deliveries to to=validus...@media-brokers.com et al are via the virtual transport

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks for trying, but mailman is running fine. Lists that have only real email addresses work fine. Also, individual messages invoking postfix/local also work fine, (ie, emails sent from cron (8 from last night and this morning), etc)... Mark has helped me narrow the problem down to

[Mailman-Users] SOLVED - Re: Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
change the kernel boot default without proper testing. Anyway, thanks for the assist and sorry for the noise. Charles On 2013-06-09 10:33 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 06/09/2013 05:49 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Wish I did... I did get a comment from Victor on the postfix list

[Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, Ok, we had a power failure, and apparently my UPS thought it had more time left than it did, as the UPS shut down before it shut down the system. Everything is back up and running, and postfix is running fine for all other mail, except list/mailman mail. I'm getting the following

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-08 8:10 AM, Larry Kuenning la...@qhpress.org wrote: Is mailman possibly not running? Try this: ps -A | grep mailmanctl If that gives blank output, try this: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start Not blank - but what does the question mark mean? # ps -A | grep mailmanctl 2600 ?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-08 1:58 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Actually, private/local and private/retry refer to the sockets used for communication between the Postfix master and the various daemons. If you do 'netstat -l' you should see these and many others 'LISTENING', Do you? Yep, they're all

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-08 5:44 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 06/08/2013 02:21 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: It also seems to be something to do with how many recipients are involved. One or two appear to be ok, but more than that and it gets iffy... I think that's a coincidence. The biggest problem

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman 2.1 not plushack aware?

2013-06-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-01 1:40 PM, Bill Cole wrote: It is altogether always wrong for ANY mail software outside of a domain to parse the local part of an address in that domain except for a tiny handful of standard special local parts (e.g. postmaster). On it's own, I agree. The use of '+' as a tag

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman 2.1 not plushack aware?

2013-06-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-02 2:45 PM, Bill Cole mailmanu-20100...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote: Beyond a few formally standardized cases, assuming equivalency between different address local parts in a foreign domain is wrong in principle and bad in practice. You (and Mark) are correct of course. I only use

Re: [Mailman-Users] Probably obvious, but...

2013-03-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-12 6:31 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Tanstaafl wrote On 2013-03-12 12:40 PM, Ryan Staselrsta...@uoregon.edu wrote: Is there a good way to say posts by non-members should redirect/bounce to the ticketing system email? Sounds like a job for your MTA, not Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Probably obvious, but...

2013-03-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-12 12:40 PM, Ryan Stasel rsta...@uoregon.edu wrote: This is probably obvious, but I thought I'd shoot the list an email and ask. Is there a way to redirect emails to a list from non-members to another email address? Basically, I have a list of our IT group that we use internally to

Re: [Mailman-Users] white listing

2013-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-20 3:18 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: On 2/19/2013 5:06 AM, Máire Jones wrote: Is it possible to configure accept_non_members so that ANY address from @domain can be added without having to specify each address separately? Put ^.*@domain or, e.g. ^.*[@.]example\.com$

[Mailman-Users] SMTP_MAX_RCPTS setting

2013-02-17 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I'm looking to add some rate limiting to my postfix, but need to know how postfix's smtpd_recipient_limit interacts with mailman... After thinking about this, I just don't really see any rational reason that normal users should be sending to 100 recipients at one time. If they need

Re: [Mailman-Users] OT - Regex help (was: Re: About Spam Filtering

2013-02-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-15 10:25 AM, Joseph Brennan bren...@columbia.edu wrote: elsif (/^from:.*+(bounce|do-not-reply|facebook|linkedin|list-|myspace|twitter)/i) { $logger-debug(Multi-string From header matching $1: $2 found; exiting); exit (0); } Examine the logic of the 'if' and any 'elsif' above this

Re: [Mailman-Users] OT - Regex help (was: Re: About Spam Filtering

2013-02-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-16 9:54 AM, Joseph Brennan bren...@columbia.edu wrote: This 'if' block is just a bunch of separate one line tests that, if any of them match, result in the vacation response not being sent, so it doesn't really matter what is above them (they are all the defaults, this is the only

[Mailman-Users] OT - Regex help (was: Re: About Spam Filtering

2013-02-15 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, Apologies for the OT post, but I've been struggling with a regex for a long time, trying to get it to work with my postfixadmin vacation.pl, and for the life of me, I can't seem to get it right. I've asked numerous times on the postfixadmin list, but no one there has been able to

Re: [Mailman-Users] OT - Regex help (was: Re: About Spam Filtering

2013-02-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-15 9:41 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: We get a lot of list related stuff that the vacation.pl responds to that I don't want it to respond to, To clarify - by 'list-related', I mean announce/newsletter type junk that our users subscribe to, not necessarily mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Attachment with welcome message

2013-02-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-12 3:00 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Carl Zwanzig wrote: That was my first thought. Put all the info in the main message (and make sure there's a readable text/plain part, too). Absolutely! (There's way too much attaching of word processing documents and PDFs where

Re: [Mailman-Users] Google Message Security (or similar) with Mailman

2012-12-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-12-07 5:52 PM, Kirke Johnson kjohn...@pcc.edu wrote: We have been using GMS since we migrated user accounts to Gmail. Our relationship between Postini and Mailman is kind of ugly due to that migration. Fyi... we have been using postini (hate it, lots of false positives, and lots of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Non-member posting to the list

2012-11-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-11-13 1:52 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: If I knew how to tell if a header was spoofed, I could do that, but I don't know how to tell; do you? Maybe an alternative would be an option that for every message posted to the list, a confirmation email is sent to the members email

Re: [Mailman-Users] A simple unsubscribe

2012-07-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-07-28 12:38 PM, William Yardley mail...@veggiechinese.net wrote: Even if it's not primarily intended for that purpose, Mailman is used extensively as (and can be configured as) an announcement list, vs. a traditional discussion list. In that context (where none of the members can post,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting field focus on admin login page

2012-06-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-26 5:24 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: What code can I add - and where - to set the cursor focus to the password field on any/all of the list's admin login page so I don't have to click into it before entering the password? Just install Mailman 2.1.15

[Mailman-Users] Setting field focus on admin login page

2012-06-26 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, A minor little niggle that has bugged me for a very long time but never enough to bother you guys with it until now... I know there must be a way to do this, but my js foo is basically non-existant... What code can I add - and where - to set the cursor focus to the password field

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled

2012-06-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-18 12:22 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmouse-mail...@fmp.com wrote: Doing this as a custom hack helps. If this were implemented as a Mailman standard option then word might indeed get back to them about it. Using Resent-Message-ID as a header name is a clever idea. I'd also argue that

Re: [Mailman-Users] more questions about Yahoo feedback loop and abuse complaints

2012-06-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-16 3:54 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: * Terry Earleyte...@fiteyes.com: Maybe VERP is the best solution for AOL and her evil step-sisters if you can stand the overhead? Yep. Is it possible to enable VERP *only* for certain domains (like AOL, Yahoo,

Re: [Mailman-Users] looking for correct doc for configure

2012-06-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-03 3:16 PM, Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com wrote: On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:09 AM, H wrote: Pretty new to Mailman, trying to install it and looking for the correct documentation to go with mailman-3.0.0b1 MHO, if you're new to Mailman, you should not be looking at 3.0 yet.

Re: [Mailman-Users] The sender needs to receive email sent to mailing list...

2012-05-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-05-23 9:43 AM, Guilherme Cunha guilhermemunizdacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi The sender needs to receive email sent to mailing list... How can I do this? Mark already answered you yesterday, spamming this list with multiple duplicate questions won't change the answer. If you are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newer postfix: unused parameter:mailman_destination_recipient_limit=1

2012-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-03-10 1:10 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Larry Stone wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, Tanstaafl wrote: Anyone have any idea why? Am I indeed not using it? I'd rather not just comment it out and test without some confirmation first, since this is a production box

[Mailman-Users] Newer postfix: unused parameter: mailman_destination_recipient_limit=1

2012-03-09 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I've had this parameter defined in my postfix ever since it was first set up (not by me), and most everything I read online says it should be there. But, the newer versions of postfix now provide warnings for unused parameters, and that is what I'm getting for this one parameter:

Re: [Mailman-Users] iPhone App for moderating mails

2012-02-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-02-07 8:26 AM, Manuel Weiel manuelwe...@gmx.de wrote: I don't know if this is appropriate, but I want to share it if someone finds it useful: I have written an app for moderating mails from your mailman lists. You can add multiple lists and get an overview of all the pending moderation

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for lists with no members.Repopulsting lists. was: Resetting bounce scores globally

2011-08-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-08-19 7:57 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Even if I occasionally misspell words (backwords vs backwards) and often make typos (Repopulsting vs Repopulating) :) Oh, that just reminds us all that you are indeed human, not an alien overlord... ;)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for lists with no members. Repopulstinglists. was: Resetting bounce scores globally

2011-08-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-08-18 9:18 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: I think sometimes developers/coders dont realise lesser mortals cant code to their standards, and in my case virtually not at all... I'm sure that sometimes that's true of me, but if you look at my posts in the archives of this list,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Integrating with a forum

2011-05-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-29 5:22 PM, Ed Pastore wrote: In there, you can see that I did find M2F, which appears to be a list-forum integrator. Great. But it only works with phpBB 2. Not only is phpBB2 out of date, but also from past experience I find phpBB to be pretty underwhelming. So I'd like to use a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions about current/future functionality

2011-03-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-03-13 6:07 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I have no knowledge of how mlmmj stores it's data or what its list settings and subscriber settings are and how they would map to Mailman. Ok, thanks... Maybe some thought could be given to a migrations page on the wiki, dealing with such

Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions about current/future functionality

2011-03-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-03-10 5:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: So, will MM3 have the ability to assign unique credentials (username+password) to admins and moderators? Yes. Thanks for all of your answers Mark, very helpful... One last question... The last response I got was about how

Re: [Mailman-Users] The No Attachments Option

2011-03-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-03-11 5:27 AM, Mailman Admin wrote: You can move attachments from incoming emails to the archive and send only a link to it to recipients. In this way only those who are interested in the attachment will have to download it. Cool - but where is this option found??

[Mailman-Users] Questions about current/future functionality

2011-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, There is currently another (this is probably the 3rd or 4th) discussion going on right now on the tdf-discuss list (tdf = The Document Foundation, which is hosting all of the libreoffice lists) about issues with their list infrastructure... They are currently using mlmmj, and have said

Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions about current/future functionality

2011-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-03-10 6:55 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: 2. Multiple moderators all sharing the same password. Is it possible for each mod to have a different password? If not, isn't this a security issue if you decide to boot a moderator? If not, why not? Wow.. I forgot that access to the moderator pages

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-30 4:52 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: After the change to the DocRoot, now when I go to either one I get only one error: mod_mime_magic: can't read `/usr/lib64/mailman/cgi-bin/admin' Forgot to ask - any other ideas on this error message? I'm looking into it from the apache angle

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-31 10:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Tanstaafl writes: On 2010-12-30 4:52 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: After the change to the DocRoot, now when I go to either one I get only one error: mod_mime_magic: can't read `/usr/lib64/mailman/cgi-bin/admin' Forgot to ask - any other ideas

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-29 9:07 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: snip This might be related to the DocumentRoot. I don't know. I would change the DocumentRoot for the reasons I indicate above. Done, and thanks... That probably won't change these errors, and if it doesn't, and the Mailman web interface continues

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specify differentIP:port?

2010-12-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-27 4:35 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: Where do I specify the server crt/key pair for the lists.example.com vhost if I don't have a full blown vhost config file for it? Or can I just go ahead and create one (vhost config file pointing to the correct dir)? You need

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-23 3:48 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: Mark wisely pointed out: If you haven't told Apache to listen on the port you're redirecting to, that would explain a lot. You don't necessarily need a VirtualHost block for that IP and port, but you do need to tell Apache to listen

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-27 7:54 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Tanstaafl writes: Is there some kind of .conf parser for apache that will show the current configs it is using, similar to 'postconf -n' for postfix? Mark replied: Not that I know of. Too bad, it would sure come in handy when troubleshooting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specify differentIP:port?

2010-12-23 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks a lot for your help here Mark... On 2010-12-22 5:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: Hmmm... so, is 4.29 - which says otherwise (and which is referenced from the FAQ you pointed me to below)- no longer valid? http://wiki.list.org/x/7oA9 4.29 or 4.27? Wups, sorry, yeah I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-23 2:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I set: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s:#/mailman/' Where # is the 5 digit port I set it to, then I ran: # ./withlist -l -a -r fix_url snip I also added the redirect for the non-ssl host to the ssl host per the instructions at the above

[Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specify different IP:port?

2010-12-22 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I'm a little confused about how the mailman web interface works, since it doesn't use normal vhost conf files... How would I go about specifying a different IP:port for the mailman web interface? Currently, in /etc/apache2/conf/modules.d/50_mailman.conf I have: ScriptAlias /mailman/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specify different IP:port?

2010-12-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-22 1:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: How would I go about specifying a different IP:port for the mailman web interface? [...] But I'd like to specify a redirect to a specific URL, namely: https://lists.example.com:# Where/how do I go about doing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman DOA after power outage crash.

2010-11-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-31 7:00 AM, J.A. Terranson me...@mfn.org wrote: Thanks for the flush information: even though this was a unique situation (every box in the rack was damaged, several beyond repair [including the backup server]), living in the middle of the tornado capital of the world means it could

Re: [Mailman-Users] User Preferences

2010-10-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-07 5:50 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: How does one go about defining which user prefs are available to users when they log into their users page? Is it possible to pick and choose? Hopefully without having to dog into the code? The user options page is built from

Re: [Mailman-Users] User Preferences

2010-10-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-08 3:50 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: No. The subject prefix is a list setting an there is no user option to enable/disable it. User options include those things which are check boxes on the admin Membership list page plus topics subscription and that's about it. The default options

[Mailman-Users] User Preferences

2010-10-07 Thread Tanstaafl
How does one go about defining which user prefs are available to users when they log into their users page? Is it possible to pick and choose? Hopefully without having to dog into the code? Thanks... -- Mailman-Users mailing list

[Mailman-Users] SOLVED - Re: Apache startup warning/error: mailman DocumentRoot?

2010-06-07 Thread Tanstaafl
Just getting back to this, and to close it out... On 2010-06-02 10:03 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: So, my question is, what should the path in /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/lists.example.com be pointing to? Where *is* the mailman DocumentRoot? Mailman neither has nor needs

[Mailman-Users] Apache startup warning/error: mailman DocumentRoot?

2010-06-02 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello again, There's another annoying warning message I get that I'd like to resolve, but I only get it at startup, so I keep forgetting about it. I had to shutdown the server this morning to move it to a new UPS, and saw it again when I started the server up, so now I'm asking. I know there's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-10 7:20 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: It turns out there was a Bug/Patch at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/328907 which is related to this. I've fixed that for MM 2.1.14 with the attached patch which allows you to specify VIRTUAL_MAILMAN_LOCAL_HOST in mm_cfg.py, and if you do, it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-09 5:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Note that I have never done exactly this, so I'm not totally certain it will do what you want, but I think it will. I also think it probably isn't worth maintaining a non-standard patch to do it, but only you can answer that for yourself. I wouldn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-05 10:12 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Please let us know how this goes. I will need to revise that FAQ. Ok, apologies for the delay, but I didn't get to this until now... It went smooth as silk and everything is running fine, but I have one minor question. Here's a log entry for a test

Re: [Mailman-Users] Apache Mailman VHost Config - WAS: Re: Changinghost names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-04 1:44 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Isn't there something like ScriptAlias /mailman/ /path/to/mailman/cgi-bin/ and Alias /pipermail/ /path/to/mailman/archives/public/ in something like /etc/apache2/conf.d/50_mailman.conf? That should be all you need. Ah, right, I forgot

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-04 1:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-05-03 6:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Here's how it looks to me. It was initially set up with email domain myhost.example.com and that is all fine. It all works as it should. You then decided that you wanted to be able to post

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-05 10:12 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = 'example.com' The above needs to be POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['example.com'] snip With the one change above, this seems all good. Please let us know how this goes. I will need to revise

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-03 6:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 5/3/2010 2:05 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-05-03 12:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: You're right. I confused myself because in my Postfix installation, mydomain and myhostname have the same value. Heh... I'm more than a little confused right now, so

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