[Mailman-Users] Bounce Score information

2024-06-06 Thread Bruce Kaiser
I am new administrator for several mail-lists, using GNUMailman 2.1 via our service provider. It seems that although some addresses have bounced a number of times, none are being suspended. Is there a way to obtain a list of the current bounce scores and bounce status for each of the members

[Mailman-Users] bounce back attacks on users via mailman 2 web interface

2022-10-01 Thread Michael Richardson
For the past few months my mailman (2) installation with a dozen lists on it has been convinced to email bomb various random people out there from the list-bounces@ address. I have daily cron jobs that clean this junk out of my postfix queue, as most destinations rate limit me. It's not helping

[Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2022-02-16 Thread Peter Knowles
Hi, We turned off bounce processing with the goal of NOT having subscribers removed in error (false positive) and instead use an internal auditing process to identify and deal with bad addresses. Recently I noticed that while bounce processing is turned OFF, subscriber addresses are still being d

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-05 Thread Masaharu Kawada
Mark-san, Thank you very much for your response. I have given a shot, but no luck. Maybe I have something wrong in what I have done. Anyway, I will do some more test myself and see how it goes. I very much appreciate your help this time and very sorry to have asked you this many... Masaharu Kaw

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/5/19 6:51 PM, Masaharu Kawada wrote: > > In my case, /etc/mailman/aliase is the default file path and then what I > need to do is going for the steps below, is this right? > > 1.Create /etc/mailman/alias_overrides as follows. > > Note: The first line is copied from /etc/mailman/aliases and

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-05 Thread Masaharu Kawada
Mark-san, Thank you very much for your response. >'LISTNAME' and 'ISTNAME' (sic) are replaced with the actual list name >and '/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman' is replaced with the actual path. I am sorry that the abov e 'ISTNAME' was supposed to be 'LISTNAME'. I missed the first 'L' when I copied

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/5/19 12:43 AM, Masaharu Kawada wrote: > > About what you said above, do you mean it's supposed to be like below? > > $ cat alias_overrides > --- > ISTNAME-bounces: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman bounces LISTNAME" > t...@domain.com > --- No. the first line should be copied from the exis

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-05 Thread Masaharu Kawada
Mark-san, Very sorry to ask you directly. One question about the format of the alias configuration in 'alias_overrides' you mensioned. --- LISTNAME-bounces: "|/path/to/mailman/mail/mailman bounces LISTNAME" copy that one line exactly to alias_overrides and then add a second line beginning wit

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-04 Thread Masaharu Kawada
Hello Mark-san, I very much appreciate your answer and that was a big help. I think the second method you gave me that using alias_overrides is the one I need. Thanks a million! Masaharu Kawada On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 9:38 AM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 6/4/19 4:55 PM, Masaharu Kawada wrote: > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/4/19 4:55 PM, Masaharu Kawada wrote: > > Are there any ways to have a bounce mail transferred to a specific user( > ex:t...@domain.com) instead of the mail sender? > > I haven't been able to find any ways within Mailman configuration, but I > just wonder if we can make it by using any method

[Mailman-Users] bounce mail transfer

2019-06-04 Thread Masaharu Kawada
Dear list, Are there any ways to have a bounce mail transferred to a specific user( ex:t...@domain.com) instead of the mail sender? I haven't been able to find any ways within Mailman configuration, but I just wonder if we can make it by using any method of postfix side. The "man postfix" says:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2019-01-19 Thread Brian Carpenter
> -Original Message- > From: Mailman-Users bounces+brian=emwd@python.org> On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:22 PM > To: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing > > On 1/19/19 2:41 PM, Kenneth G. Go

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2019-01-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/19/19 2:41 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote: > Over the past several weeks, I have received many reports from Mailman > concerning too > many bounces from certain subscribers who are normally very active on one of > my forums. > > All of these "Bounce Action Notification"'s appear to be coming

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2019-01-19 Thread Bernie Cosell
On January 19, 2019 18:00:35 "Kenneth G. Gordon" wrote: Over the past several weeks, I have received many reports from Mailman concerning too many bounces from certain subscribers who are normally very active on one of my forums. All of these "Bounce Action Notification"'s appear to be comi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2019-01-19 Thread Richard Damon
On 1/19/19 5:41 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote: > Over the past several weeks, I have received many reports from Mailman > concerning too > many bounces from certain subscribers who are normally very active on one of > my forums. > > All of these "Bounce Action Notification"'s appear to be coming f

[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2019-01-19 Thread Kenneth G. Gordon
Over the past several weeks, I have received many reports from Mailman concerning too many bounces from certain subscribers who are normally very active on one of my forums. All of these "Bounce Action Notification"'s appear to be coming from only a very few ISPs, the big one being AOL, altho

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce notification to owner from non members?

2018-07-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Reply-To set to Mailman-Developers. Please clean up your header if you use Reply-All. Richard Damon writes: > It would be nice if Mailman could tell the MTA as it was receiving the > message that it wasn't acceptable so it could be rejected then, but > since it generally can't, you need to di

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce notification to owner from non members?

2018-07-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/28/2018 04:52 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/28/18 3:02 AM, Adam Morris wrote: >> Hi all, >> I receive about 8 bounce messages a day for one of my lists from >> people trying to post to it who aren't members. >> The list is set up as private so not sure how these spammers find it. >> I've be

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce notification to owner from non members?

2018-07-28 Thread Richard Damon
On 7/28/18 3:02 AM, Adam Morris wrote: > Hi all, > I receive about 8 bounce messages a day for one of my lists from > people trying to post to it who aren't members. > The list is set up as private so not sure how these spammers find it. > I've been to the bounce page but can't work out how to stop

[Mailman-Users] bounce notification to owner from non members?

2018-07-28 Thread Adam Morris
Hi all, I receive about 8 bounce messages a day for one of my lists from people trying to post to it who aren't members. The list is set up as private so not sure how these spammers find it. I've been to the bounce page but can't work out how to stop these messages but allow bounce messages fro

[Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-11-01 Thread Terry .
Thanks Mark. Sorry for the delay in responding. I've passed your offer of help on to the webhost a few mins ago. Hoping they take it up... BTW, how long are my emails to this list going to be moderated for? Terry -- Mailman-Users mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/24/2017 03:53 PM, Terry . wrote: > > Mark, I might pass your generous offer to work with cPanel, on to the webhost > (again), to be passed on to cPanel ... That would be good. Emphasize that I am the person who does all the upstream maintenance of Mailman 2.1 and that I want to work with

[Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-25 Thread Terry .
Thanks for your excellent answers, Steve and Mark. Mark, I might pass your generous offer to work with cPanel, on to the webhost (again), to be passed on to cPanel, once I've heard back from the webhost re the timing of when sender_verify was turned on (presumably through a cPanel update). Wh

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/24/2017 06:06 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > I'm jumping in late here.. Is the problem possibly DMARC alignment > failures? If so, I've been working on a patch for this: No. This has nothing to do with DMARC. However your branch might be relevant. The issue is that owner notifications from

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/23/2017 10:21 PM, Terry . wrote: > > cPanel responded with the following 2 emails: > > > Response #1: > > > > Hello, > > Unfortunately though, as I mentioned previously this is a result of an > upstream design choice from Mailman not from cPanel, we

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-24 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Oct 24, 2017 04:20, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: (Making it a list is a natural choice, and I don't see how that causes additional difficulties for cPanel.) I'm jumping in late here.. Is the problem possibly DMARC alignment failures? If so, I've been working on a patch for this: https://co

[Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Terry . writes: > Any comments on any of this, Mark or anyone else, especially re > this claim: "...this is a result of an upstream design choice from > Mailman not from cPanel, As I understand it, the "design choice" meant is to have a sitewide address "mail...@site.tld". This isn't so much

[Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-23 Thread Terry .
Hi again Mark, etc. Sorry for the delay in responding. I passed this back to my webhost, and they passed it on to cPanel for me: == I’ve been thinking about the solution that cPanel have provided for the previously mentioned 3 subscribe/unsubscribe notific

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/02/2017 05:37 PM, Terry . wrote: > > I don’t understand why either. Maybe the address is supposed to exist in > Exim, and not be visible via cPanel's interface (e.g. under "Forwarders"). > But it makes me wonder whether everything will work as designed with Mailman > under the current v

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-10-02 Thread Terry .
Thanks for your replies Stephen & Mark, and sorry for the long delay in getting back to you. Re Stephen's comment: > I don't understand why you don't have this address in the first place. > Mailman uses this address as envelope sender (and sometimes From) in > order to accept failed delivery

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-09-18 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 9/18/17 1:20 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Terry . writes: > > > Sorry for the delay in responding, and thanks for your generous > > offer of working with my webhost and/or cPanel to solve this. I > > passed that offer to my webhost, but it seems they have been able > > to sort it out w

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-09-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Terry . writes: > Sorry for the delay in responding, and thanks for your generous > offer of working with my webhost and/or cPanel to solve this. I > passed that offer to my webhost, but it seems they have been able > to sort it out with cPanel themselves. > I then tested lists in all 7 dom

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-09-16 Thread Terry .
Hi Mark & others, Sorry for the delay in responding, and thanks for your generous offer of working with my webhost and/or cPanel to solve this. I passed that offer to my webhost, but it seems they have been able to sort it out with cPanel themselves. Here is the response from my webhost:

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-08-31 Thread Jim Dory
I have root access to my server and I'm not getting the subscribe/unsubscribe notices for our mailing list. If it would help I can look something up. However, this isn't my day job so I would need cookbook style instructions. I have ssh ability as well as their WHM interface. That said, not sure w

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-08-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/31/2017 01:29 AM, Terry . wrote: > > However, here's the latest development. I created > bugte...@whatever-domain.com lists for each of my 7 domains, then for each > list, I: > > - Set owner to my address, > > - Set admin_notify_mchanges to "Yes", > > - Took a few other Yes/No options

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-08-31 Thread Jim Dory
For what it is worth, I've stopped getting subscribe/unsubscribe notices too on my one list hosted on CPanel/virtual server. Perhaps months ago. I figured it was over my head to figure out, so reading this thread to see if anything easy presents as a solution. /jim On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:29

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-08-31 Thread Terry .
Hi again Mark, > I would like to see all of the MTA (Exim) log messages relating to the > messages with Message-IDs > and > . > Also, Mailman's bounce, smtp and smtp-failure log messages from around > Wed, 30 Aug 2017 04:45 to 05:01 may help. > Although, this appears to be cPanel, so you may n

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-08-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 08/30/2017 03:45 AM, Terry . wrote: > > Below is the whole thing including headers and unsubscribe email attachment. > > BTW, does this list allow me to attach files? Might do that next time. You can attach files, but only plain text (MIME types text/plain and text/x-diff) will make it to t

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-08-30 Thread Terry .
____________ From: Mark Sapiro Sent: 29 August 2017 10:09 To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes Sorry for the delayed reply. I've been away. On 08/18/2017 08:11 PM, Terry . w

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-08-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Sorry for the delayed reply. I've been away. On 08/18/2017 08:11 PM, Terry . wrote: > > But in recent months I’ve noticed that, as list owner, when I subscribe or > unsubscribe someone, instead of just receiving an email with the subject: > “ subscription notification” > or: > “ unsubscr

[Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

2017-08-28 Thread Terry .
Hi Mark, etc, I’ve been a happy user of Mailman for years via a webhost on a shared server which runs cPanel. I’m the list owner for various lists, and in general it’s been working well. The current Mailman version the webhost have is 2.1.23. But in recent months I’ve noticed that, as list ow

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2017-05-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/31/2017 07:42 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > I thought that it would unsubscribe the dead email addresses without > needing my notifications It will eventually. There are several things going on. Your original post showed bounces all from 5/31. Bounce processing only increments the score once

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2017-05-31 Thread Ruben Safir
On 05/31/2017 10:32 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > ... >> But I'm not getting bounce processing that I expect. I lot of hard >> bounces are not being caught. I set bounce level to 3 >> >> These are hard bounces: > ... > > > Is bounce processing not working or do you just think it's not working > beca

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2017-05-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/31/2017 01:36 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > I changed my aliases to something like this > > # STANZA START: hangout > # CREATED: Sat Apr 15 12:09:33 2017 ... > hangout-leavemealone:"|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner hangout" If you don't have a deliverable hangout-owner alias you will re

[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2017-05-31 Thread Ruben Safir
I changed my aliases to something like this # STANZA START: hangout # CREATED: Sat Apr 15 12:09:33 2017 hangout: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hangout" hangout-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin hangout" hangout-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounce

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce alias and bonce processing

2017-05-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/24/17 2:04 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > Hello > > I changed the owner alias for my mailing list and now I think the > bounces are not processing like they should. Is that possible? What exactly did you change? Bounce processing should only depend on the LIST-bounces alias but LIST-owner will

[Mailman-Users] bounce alias and bonce processing

2017-05-24 Thread Ruben Safir
Hello I changed the owner alias for my mailing list and now I think the bounces are not processing like they should. Is that possible? Ruben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce disabled warning interval settings

2016-06-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/1/16 6:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Then, this is not hard. You don't have to edit the source. You'd create > an extend.py for the list something like > > def extend(mlist): > def no_op(member): > return > mlist.endNextNotification = no_op > return > > Then you save tha

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce disabled warning interval settings

2016-06-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/1/16 6:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > If you don't want a message at all, you have to edit the > endNextNotification method in Mailman/Bouncer.py to not send it. First, that should be sendNextNotification, the missing 's' was a copy/paste issue :( Then, this is not hard. You don't have to

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce disabled warning interval settings

2016-06-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 6/1/16 10:44 AM, daryl.w...@lis.state.oh.us wrote: > > We have a one-way announcement list. A single message is posted once > a week every week. We never want to unsubscribe anyone - just disable > their subscription. We never want Mailman sending a subscriber the > automated message that start

[Mailman-Users] bounce disabled warning interval settings

2016-06-01 Thread daryl.w...@lis.state.oh.us
Hello: I wondered if I could get recommendations on ideal settings needed for bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings and bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval to achieve the following: We have a one-way announcement list. A single message is posted once a week every week. We never want to unsubs

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-21 Thread Richard Robbins
Mark, Your suggestion seems to be just what the doctor ordered. I have a happy subscriber who isn't in the mood to lock horns with the less than responsive IT team at his company. Thank you and everyone else who chimed in. -- Rich On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Richard Robbins wrote: > Tha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-21 Thread Richard Robbins
That makes great sense. I will give it a shot. I'm still trying to figure our why this particular problem only cropped up when I changed mailman hosts but I don't have access to the old host details to see if there are differences between how I set up the program then as opposed to now. On Thu,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/21/2016 03:42 AM, Richard Robbins wrote: > Thanks. You've all given me much appreciated assistance. One further thought. If the only concern is the user's being unsubscribed, you/he can set his "Receive your own posts to the list?" option (not metoo in the web admin Membership List) to N

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-21 Thread Richard Robbins
Thanks. You've all given me much appreciated assistance. On Wednesday, April 20, 2016, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > There are two separate issues here. He cannot send to Mailman and > > Mailman can't send to him. The first causes him to get the rejections as > > above and the o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: > There are two separate issues here. He cannot send to Mailman and > Mailman can't send to him. The first causes him to get the rejections as > above and the other causes Mailman's bounce processing to unsubscribe him. I partially misinterpreted the situation. I have received

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-20 Thread Brian Carpenter
> -Original Message- > From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users- > bounces+brian=emwd@python.org] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Turnbull > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 10:03 PM > To: Richard Robbins > Cc: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Pr

[Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Richard Robbins writes: > I recently switched my mailman host to a new provider. One of my > users is now encountering problems that he hasn't had before. Are you sure your list configuration is the same as before? > When he sends a message to a list an error message is generated > that is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/19/2016 05:28 PM, Richard Robbins wrote: > I recently switched my mailman host to a new provider. One of my users is > now encountering problems that he hasn't had before. When he sends a > message to a list an error message is generated that is in the following > form: > > From: Mail Deli

[Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing

2016-04-20 Thread Richard Robbins
I recently switched my mailman host to a new provider. One of my users is now encountering problems that he hasn't had before. When he sends a message to a list an error message is generated that is in the following form: From: Mail Delivery System To: announce-boun...@usml.net Cc: Date: Thu, 1

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2016-02-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/29/2016 12:48 PM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > I haven't had any problems with my many low-volume lists correctly > removing dead addresses - as long as the receiving MTA is not configured > to not bounce undeliverable mail properly... It depends on the list and settings. The defaults are bo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing -WAS a different thread entirely

2016-02-29 Thread Keith Seyffarth
>> Shouldn't mailman (or any good mailing list server) be automatically >> removing bouncing addresses? > > > Mailman is very good at this IF it is properly configured. There are > list settings under control of the list admin. The defaults are > reasonable for lists that moderate to high traffic

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing -WAS a different thread entirely

2016-02-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/29/2016 07:44 AM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > Shouldn't mailman (or any good mailing list server) be automatically > removing bouncing addresses? Mailman is very good at this IF it is properly configured. There are list settings under control of the list admin. The defaults are reasonable f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce email going to list server admin not list owner...

2016-02-25 Thread The Mailing List System Admin
Thanks to both Mark (MS) and Stephen for their replies. MS> All I can suggest is you look at your MTA logs and try to MS> determine to what message this is a response and what generated MS> this message. I track down the original message id, here's what I found in the MTA logs... 1) Msg from sa

[Mailman-Users] Bounce email going to list server admin not list owner...

2016-02-24 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
The Mailing List System Admin writes: > Didn't have luck researching this question. I (the list server admin) > recently received the following bounce notice: > > From joe.anyb...@example.edu Wed Feb 24 15:55:18 2016 > > Return-Path: > > From: "Anybody, Joe" > > To: Xyz.Forum > > Subje

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce email going to list server admin not list owner...

2016-02-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/24/2016 02:25 PM, The Mailing List System Admin wrote: > Didn't have luck researching this question. I (the list server admin) > recently received the following bounce notice: > >> From joe.anyb...@example.edu Wed Feb 24 15:55:18 2016 >> Return-Path: >> From: "Anybody, Joe" >> To: Xyz.For

[Mailman-Users] Bounce email going to list server admin not list owner...

2016-02-24 Thread The Mailing List System Admin
Didn't have luck researching this question. I (the list server admin) recently received the following bounce notice: From joe.anyb...@example.edu Wed Feb 24 15:55:18 2016 Return-Path: From: "Anybody, Joe" To: Xyz.Forum Subject: Automatic reply: Added to the list Thread-Topic: Added to the li

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce processing

2014-09-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/03/2014 11:34 AM, Andrew Watson wrote: > Thanks for your help. > The version is 2.1.10 > I enabled the subscriber at the administrative interface under Member > Management under Membership List (I unchecked the nomail box, which had > a [B] next to it). > I dont think I have a non-standard M

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce processing

2014-09-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/03/2014 07:16 AM, Andrew Watson wrote: > On Aug 29 2014 I disabled bounce processing for my list. > On Sep 2 2014 I re-enabled the subscription of a subscriber who had been > disabled. > On Sep 3 2014 the subscriber received the message below: (list name deleted) > > Why is this happening a

[Mailman-Users] bounce processing

2014-09-03 Thread Andrew Watson
On Aug 29 2014 I disabled bounce processing for my list. On Sep 2 2014 I re-enabled the subscription of a subscriber who had been disabled. On Sep 3 2014 the subscriber received the message below: (list name deleted) Why is this happening after I disabled bounce processing? Why is the subscriber

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce processing not removing members

2013-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/14/2013 07:45 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > is there a way to configure via "withlist" instead of the web admin? Yes, you can configure anything with withlist, but just setting one or a few list attributes is easier with config_list. Also, see the script at

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce processing not removing members

2013-12-14 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
is there a way to configure via "withlist" instead of the web admin? On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/14/2013 11:11 AM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > > > > For example, I'll see this message: > > > > List: xyz > > Member: > > Action: Subscription d

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce processing not removing members

2013-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/14/2013 11:11 AM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > > For example, I'll see this message: > > List: xyz > Member: > Action: Subscription disabled. > Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. > > If I check the member list for that particular email address, it still is > th

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce processing not removing members

2013-12-14 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hi, I have a large list (>50,000) which processes a large number of bounces and also supposedly disables subscriptions after excessive bounces. However, even after seeing a "subscription disabled" message, if I check the member list, the address is still in there. Doesn't "subscriptin disabled"

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce processing / bounce score

2013-07-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/06/2013 04:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Dave Blakemore writes: > > > Specifically I have one user who is not receiving notes > > ... > I'm not sure how you can check for invisible characters > (like space and tab), Mark would know. For some time, Mailman has not allowed subscripti

[Mailman-Users] bounce processing / bounce score

2013-07-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Dave Blakemore writes: > Specifically I have one user who is not receiving notes It would help if you are more precise about this. Never received anything since subscription? Check the subscribed address for accuracy. I'm not sure how you can check for invisible characters (like space and tab

[Mailman-Users] bounce processing / bounce score

2013-07-05 Thread Dave Blakemore
I am trying to determine how many bounces are occurring and to who, but cannot figure out where to look. Specifically I have one user who is not receiving notes and I am wondering if it is at her end or mine. I went to the administrator panel, the 2 most obvious possibilities seemed to be "

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing Problem

2013-03-02 Thread Dennis Putnam
I figured out what is happening and there is no help for it. The seeming inconsistency is because when I send mail to the list, I authenticate as the account owner so, the headers are not rewritten. When other members send messages to the list it still authenticates with my account, thus the header

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing Problem

2013-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/1/2013 7:28 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > I have been having trouble with bounce processing. Bounced messages are being > sent to the list admin (not uncaught bounces). Please send me a complete, raw copy of one such bounce as received by the list owner. Note that I'm guessing based on recent

[Mailman-Users] Bounce Processing Problem

2013-03-01 Thread Dennis Putnam
I have been having trouble with bounce processing. Bounced messages are being sent to the list admin (not uncaught bounces). However, I don't seem to get rid of those bad addresses from the list. When I ran a bounce report I got the error below so I am guessing that this may be related to the pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce identity

2012-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ken Blake wrote: >I am using Mailman as newsletter/announcement/one-way list as described >in http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030685. There are >only about 200 names in my list. I have explored the various options in >bounce processing, but still cannot figure out a way to

[Mailman-Users] Bounce identity

2012-04-26 Thread Ken Blake
I am using Mailman as newsletter/announcement/one-way list as described in http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030685. There are only about 200 names in my list. I have explored the various options in bounce processing, but still cannot figure out a way to determine (1) if any

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing for low/sporadic traffic

2012-04-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/11/12 6:07 PM, Adam Clark wrote: >> From what I can gather from the docs, the bounce score: > * is incremented (by .5 or 1) each day there is a bounce Actually, only by 1. Contrary to the docs, retryable failures (4xx status, SMTP errors) are simply queued and retried. Only permanent failure

[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing for low/sporadic traffic

2012-04-11 Thread Adam Clark
>From what I can gather from the docs, the bounce score: * is incremented (by .5 or 1) each day there is a bounce * is reset only if no bounces occur within bounce_info_stale_after days In particular, the score is *not* altered when a message is delivered successfully. I have some announce lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce emails and Qmail

2011-04-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike Manning wrote: >There's all the .qmail files in >/var/qmail/mailnames/website/.qmail-listname-* and have this type of format: > >|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/lib/plesk-9.0/mm_wrapper >/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner websitename > >If I try and send an email directly to website-ow...@web

[Mailman-Users] Bounce emails and Qmail

2011-04-27 Thread Mike Manning
Hi there, We use Mailman 2.1 with Qmail and Plesk (v10.2). Everything works nicely with Mailman however it's not sending out the bounce emails to the owner to say there are pending requests. Upon checking the /var/log/mailman/smtp-failure logs, it's showing that website-ow...@website.name doe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Question

2011-03-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 3/15/2011 3:15 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > > P.S. I tried to go to the veenet link but it keeps timing out. >> On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:24:25 -0500, Barry Finkel wrote: >>> I run a report daily >>> >>> http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/get_bounce_info.py That server died some tim

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Question

2011-03-15 Thread Dennis Putnam
I am really trying to reply to Barry but, as a note to the admins, Barry's message did not make it to me for some reason. If it weren't for the replies I would not have seen this. Thanks Barry. P.S. I tried to go to the veenet link but it keeps timing out. On 3/15/2011 4:41 PM, Jeff Grossman wro

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Question

2011-03-15 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Mark Sapiro : > Jeff Grossman wrote: > > > >Are you sure about the 1.0 and 0.5 score based on soft and hard failure? > >I think Mark has said previously that a soft and hard bounce both get > >scored as 1.0. > > > The documentation on the Bounce processing page talks about the 0.5 and > 1.0 sc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Question

2011-03-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jeff Grossman wrote: > >Are you sure about the 1.0 and 0.5 score based on soft and hard failure? >I think Mark has said previously that a soft and hard bounce both get >scored as 1.0. The documentation on the Bounce processing page talks about the 0.5 and 1.0 score for a soft or hard bounce, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Question

2011-03-15 Thread Jeff Grossman
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:24:25 -0500, Barry Finkel wrote: > On 03/15/11 09:57, Dennis Putnam wrote: >> Due to some long time configuration issues, which have now been >> resolved, I think was missing some list events. Now I have to play >> catchup. I am not sure how bounce processing works. Lets as

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Question

2011-03-15 Thread Barry Finkel
On 03/15/11 09:57, Dennis Putnam wrote: Due to some long time configuration issues, which have now been resolved, I think was missing some list events. Now I have to play catchup. I am not sure how bounce processing works. Lets assume that a list member's email address goes bad. Exactly what happ

[Mailman-Users] Bounce Question

2011-03-15 Thread Dennis Putnam
Due to some long time configuration issues, which have now been resolved, I think was missing some list events. Now I have to play catchup. I am not sure how bounce processing works. Lets assume that a list member's email address goes bad. Exactly what happens to the bounced message and how does th

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce unsubscriptions..

2010-10-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
Khalil Abbas wrote: > >many people get removed from my lists due to bounces and I recieve many >complaints that they re-subscribe then get kicked out again.. my bounce >processing settings are as follows: > > > >The maximum member bounce score before the member's subscription is disabled. >This

[Mailman-Users] bounce unsubscriptions..

2010-10-11 Thread Khalil Abbas
Hi, many people get removed from my lists due to bounces and I recieve many complaints that they re-subscribe then get kicked out again.. my bounce processing settings are as follows: The maximum member bounce score before the member's subscription is disabled. This value can be a float

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce notification when automatic bounceprocessing is not selected.

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Robert M. Jenney wrote: >Is it possible to receive bounce information when automatic bounce >processing is not selected? Mailman says, ". bounce messages will still be >discarded so that the list administrator isn't inundated with them." >However, as list administrator, I'd like to receive them. T

[Mailman-Users] Bounce notification when automatic bounce processing is not selected.

2010-09-21 Thread Robert M. Jenney
Is it possible to receive bounce information when automatic bounce processing is not selected? Mailman says, ". bounce messages will still be discarded so that the list administrator isn't inundated with them." However, as list administrator, I'd like to receive them. Thanks, Bob Jenney __

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce message w/no discernable addresses

2010-08-27 Thread Geoff Shang
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, Christopher Adams wrote: Aug 27 09:31:08 2010 (14241) libs-or: bounce message w/no discernable addresses: <4b77cbb77f52bf41bee2c397760565bd08853...@xxx.xxx.xxx.xx.local> Aug 27 09:31:08 2010 (14241) libs-or: forwarding unrecognized, message-id: <4b77cbb77f52bf41bee2c39776056

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounce message w/no discernable addresses

2010-08-27 Thread Terri Oda
I'm going to guess that something got sent to libs-or-bounces but it doesn't make any sense (i.e. it's not a normal bounce message and has no discernible address at all). It's almost certainly malformed spam, but I suppose it could be a messed up vacation mail or something else from one of you

[Mailman-Users] bounce message w/no discernable addresses

2010-08-27 Thread Christopher Adams
Can someone help me interpret exactly what this means? Aug 27 09:31:08 2010 (14241) libs-or: bounce message w/no discernable addresses: <4b77cbb77f52bf41bee2c397760565bd08853...@xxx.xxx.xxx.xx.local> Aug 27 09:31:08 2010 (14241) libs-or: forwarding unrecognized, message-id: <4b77cbb77f52bf41bee2c3

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