RE: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Martin Hugo
-Original Message- From: Jon Stethridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook Hi, I think like so many others I am effected by the from: address being incorrectly reported in Outlook

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:32 PM -0800 2004/01/21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is wrong with the mailman authors making their product superior enough to compensate for Microdummies poor programing and faulty RFC interpretation? Mailman is a volunteer project. Volunteers will work on the sorts of things that

RE: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:00 AM -0500 2004/01/22, Rabinowitz, Ari (Exchange) wrote: There is no way for the Mailman developers to fix this, since if they didn't have the Sender address be the list bounce address then all of Mailman's bounce handling would no longer work, and the author of the message would get

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:52 AM + 2004/01/22, Richard Barrett wrote: If this list's membership forged a consensus behind a manageable and relatively minor proposal to change Mailman, which did not compromise its adherence to RFCs, then maybe there is a way forward to suit most people. This still doesn't fix

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread gagel
See below: - Original Message Follows - At 02:32 PM 22/01/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is wrong with the mailman authors making their product superior enough to compensate for Microdummies poor programing and faulty RFC interpretation? What is wrong with this idea, is

RE: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread gagel
I should read all mail before sending I suppose. Thanks Ari for your explanation. It works for me... - Original Message Follows - -snip- Mailman is doing the right thing, by specifying the Sender address -snip- There is no way for the Mailman developers to fix this, since if -snip- The

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Richard Barrett
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook Hi, I think like so many others I am effected by the from: address being incorrectly reported in Outlook. I am guessing since nothing has been posted to the list this is still a current problem. I can report

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Richard Barrett
On 22 Jan 2004, at 14:19, Brad Knowles wrote: At 6:52 AM + 2004/01/22, Richard Barrett wrote: If this list's membership forged a consensus behind a manageable and relatively minor proposal to change Mailman, which did not compromise its adherence to RFCs, then maybe there is a way forward

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 15:39, Richard Barrett wrote: And I did not say it would. Nor is it necessary to so do. Outlook is not wrong and nor is Mailman. Its just that some users are confused by what they see and some mailing list admins are equally confused about why their users are

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:26 PM -0500 2004/01/22, Barry Warsaw wrote: Who's the agent responsible for the actual transmission of the message? Is Mailman acting as this agent? Arguably not. I disagree. I believe that this is exactly the role that Mailman is fulfilling. One other thing. Mailman also adds an

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 16:48, Brad Knowles wrote: At 4:26 PM -0500 2004/01/22, Barry Warsaw wrote: Who's the agent responsible for the actual transmission of the message? Is Mailman acting as this agent? Arguably not. I disagree. I believe that this is exactly the role that

[Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Jon Stethridge
Hi, I think like so many others I am effected by the from: address being incorrectly reported in Outlook. I am guessing since nothing has been posted to the list this is still a current problem. I can report that the latest version of Outlook 2003 reports: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Thomas Hochstein
Jon Stethridge schrieb: I think like so many others I am effected by the from: address being incorrectly reported in Outlook. I am guessing since nothing has been posted to the list this is still a current problem. If it is a problem, it's not a problem with Mailman. I can report that the

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Linda Pahdoco
] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:09:02 +0100 snip If it is a problem, it's not a problem with Mailman. snip Ugly - but Outlook. :) snip Don't use Outlook if you don't like the way it mangles From: and Sender: together. -tth

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread gagel
] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:09:02 +0100 snip If it is a problem, it's not a problem with Mailman. snip Ugly - but Outlook. :) snip Don't use Outlook if you don't like the way it mangles From: and Sender: together

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Mark J. Bradakis
I could find nothing in the archive about open bug reports on outlook and displaying addresses... Why would stupid behavior in Outlook be considered a mailman bug? If people want to use Microsoft's Virus Propagation Wizard to mangle their mail, that should be their problem. mjb. Today's

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:56 PM -0600 2004/01/21, Linda Pahdoco wrote: So I'm supposed to tell my client Just tell the hundreds of corporate people who belong to your mailing list to not use outlook? We're looking for a real life answer, not a perfect world one. If Outlook is inappropriately munging the Sender:

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Brendan Pratt
Hi Brad, At 10:33 AM 22/01/04, you wrote: At 5:56 PM -0600 2004/01/21, Linda Pahdoco wrote: So I'm supposed to tell my client Just tell the hundreds of corporate people who belong to your mailing list to not use outlook? We're looking for a real life answer, not a perfect world one.

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:37 AM +1000 2004/01/22, Brendan Pratt wrote: Perhaps someone out there could put together a list of very specific bugs with Microsoft lookOut and lookOut Express, in a bug report format, and then place it online somewhere so that we could all direct our clients to. This way the client

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Steve Burling
--On Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:09 PM -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The link to file a bug report is here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103atid=100103 The above should be one line. I could find nothing in the archive about open bug reports on outlook and displaying addresses...

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Steve Burling
--On Wednesday, January 21, 2004 5:56 PM -0600 Linda Pahdoco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If only life were that easy. So I'm supposed to tell my client Just tell the hundreds of corporate people who belong to your mailing list to not use outlook? We're looking for a real life answer, not a perfect

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Brendan Pratt
At 02:32 PM 22/01/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is wrong with the mailman authors making their product superior enough to compensate for Microdummies poor programing and faulty RFC interpretation? What is wrong with this idea, is that it means Mailman is going against the RFC that it

RE: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Rabinowitz, Ari (Exchange)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brendan Pratt Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:49 PM What is wrong with the mailman authors making their product superior enough to compensate for Microdummies poor programing and faulty RFC interpretation? Mailman is doing

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-21 Thread Richard Barrett
On 22 Jan 2004, at 05:00, Rabinowitz, Ari (Exchange) wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brendan Pratt Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:49 PM What is wrong with the mailman authors making their product superior enough to compensate for Microdummies poor