SUMMARY Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

> couldn't the presence of his IP or ISP in the message headers be > enough > >> to > trigger the blacklist? - john > >>> > >>> No. > > Yes, actually. The problem ISP is in Europe. The challenged sender is using a dialup at this time. There are 2 probably related observations: 1

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:22:21 +0200, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:07 PM -0500 2004-10-20, texas critter wrote: > > >I also > > recommend that anyone with a dedicated server sign up for the feedback > > loop as well

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

On Oct 21, 2004, at 6:06 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: blacklist. Even though the list mail is finally coming from my server, couldn't the presence of his IP or ISP in the message headers be enough to trigger the blacklist? - john No. Yes, actually. That's not quite right, I don't think, because if th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

At 8:08 PM -0500 2004-10-21, texas critter wrote: hmm? I'm not sure what you mean by "after the fact", I use the feedback loop currently to keep me alerted to spam reports on mail going out from my dedicated server to AOL. On a server you already own. Try signing up for a feedback loop repor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:16:01 -0400 (EDT), MCV Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you sign up for the AOL feedback loop? Finding out after the fact > is better than not knowing at all. http://postmaster.info.aol.com/fbl/ -- hth, texas critter Get a FREE iPod! http://alice.ttlg.net/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

John Fleming wrote: >> > I don't think so, Mark. This is an "announce-only" list, and the sender >is >> > non-US, I think on a dialup. Let's say the sender's IP or ISP is on the >> > blacklist. Even though the list mail is finally coming from my server, >> > couldn't the presence of his IP or I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

At 6:59 AM -0700 2004-10-21, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: But whenever AOL acts up for me and users complain, I always tell them the same thing -- to move to a competent ISP. I was telling people the same thing, even when I still worked there and before my attitude towards them soured with greater

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At 11:16 AM -0400 2004-10-21, MCV Webmaster wrote: How do you sign up for the AOL feedback loop? Finding out after the fact is better than not knowing at all. Read the FAQ entry that was referenced, which includes a link to the AOL page on this subject. Or go to the web page that was referenc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

How do you sign up for the AOL feedback loop? Finding out after the fact is better than not knowing at all. Thanks, Jeff D -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

On Oct 21, 2004, at 3:56 AM, John Fleming wrote: are otherwise blocked. Mine is a personal sever. I am a newbie, but I'm using Postfix/Debian and it is not an open relay. AOL also blocks email from servers living in IP spaces known to be dialup or in the cable modem or home DSL ranges in many c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

But the same error message over multiple mailings for *all* AOL list members over a week or more would indicate that it is correct. Maybe. Remember that I used to work there. Brad's right here. I've dealt with this stuff and AOL enough to be able to confirm they don't always have their act t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

> > I don't think so, Mark. This is an "announce-only" list, and the sender is > > non-US, I think on a dialup. Let's say the sender's IP or ISP is on the > > blacklist. Even though the list mail is finally coming from my server, > > couldn't the presence of his IP or ISP in the message headers

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

At 10:07 PM -0500 2004-10-20, texas critter wrote: But the same error message over multiple mailings for *all* AOL list members over a week or more would indicate that it is correct. Maybe. Remember that I used to work there. W

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:07:30 -0500 texas critter wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:22:41 +0200, Brad Knowles > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 2:38 PM -0500 2004-10-20, texas critter wrote: > > > > That assumes that AOL is giving you the correct error > > message for > > the parti

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:22:41 +0200, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 2:38 PM -0500 2004-10-20, texas critter wrote: > > That assumes that AOL is giving you the correct error message for > the particular problem they actually detected. Having worked the > other side of that par

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At 2:38 PM -0500 2004-10-20, texas critter wrote: No. The message from AOL is that the IP address of the mail server your list is being sent from is blacklisted, not the sender of the message. That assumes that AOL is giving you the correct error message for the particular problem they actual

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At 12:04 PM -0500 2004-10-20, John Fleming wrote: I don't think so, Mark. This is an "announce-only" list, and the sender is non-US, I think on a dialup. Let's say the sender's IP or ISP is on the blacklist. Even though the list mail is finally coming from my server, couldn't the presence of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:04:00 -0500, John Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is no "specific" answer to this problem. Your IP address (the one > > list mail is coming from) is being blocked by AOL. The link in the > > above error message provides some information as does FAQ article 3.42.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:51:15 -0700, Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > did you follow the link that AOL supplied? > > The IP address you are sending from has been temporarily rate limited > due to AOL Member complaints. And if you're on shared web hosting, that could be due to spammers

[Mailman-Users] Recent AOL Thread

Over on the majordomo list, there was this relatively specific note from AOL appended. Note that this limit is not a blanket policy. Due to restrictions the AOL has put in place for the handling of inbound email they have imposed new requirements for internet service providers globally. Email fr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

John Fleming wrote: >> There is no "specific" answer to this problem. Your IP address (the one >> list mail is coming from) is being blocked by AOL. The link in the >> above error message provides some information as does FAQ article 3.42. > >I don't think so, Mark. This is an "announce-only" lis

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

> There is no "specific" answer to this problem. Your IP address (the one > list mail is coming from) is being blocked by AOL. The link in the > above error message provides some information as does FAQ article 3.42. I don't think so, Mark. This is an "announce-only" list, and the sender is non-U

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

John Fleming wrote: >I've followed the "AOL members not receiving list mail" thread from last >month, but I don't find any particular resolution. I've just started a new >list with 200+ members, and ALL of the AOL addys bounced with the following: > >host mailin-03.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.120] said:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

At 10:29 AM -0500 2004-10-20, John Fleming wrote: I've followed the "AOL members not receiving list mail" thread from last month, but I don't find any particular resolution. You're not going to get one. The closest you will get is found at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

did you follow the link that AOL supplied? The IP address you are sending from has been temporarily rate limited due to AOL Member complaints. their suggestions are there, also. On Oct 20, 2004, at 8:29 AM, John Fleming wrote: I've followed the "AOL members not receiving list mail" thread from l

[Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

I've followed the "AOL members not receiving list mail" thread from last month, but I don't find any particular resolution. I've just started a new list with 200+ members, and ALL of the AOL addys bounced with the following: host mailin-03.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.120] said: 421-: (RLY:H1) http://pos