Anne Wainwright writes:
This clearly makes the point that spam is defined by two factors
A message is Spam only if it is both Unsolicited and Bulk
That's true, but as far as I can remember definitions of UCE
(unsolicited commercial email) have no such restriction to bulk.
Anne Wainwright writes:
I have sinned and stand repentant. I hate spam as much as anyone and we
get plenty to deal with. Somehow the Viagra and get rich emails didn't
seem to stand on the same level as a once-off invite.
They don't, from the point of view of the sender or society at large.
Hi,
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 09:33:03PM -0500, Brad Knowles wrote:
On May 18, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Anne Wainwright wrote:
For the record the following URL is of interest
http://www.spamhaus.org/consumer/definition/
This clearly makes the point that spam is defined by two factors
A
On 5/18/12 6:14 PM, Anne Wainwright wrote:
Hi,
For the record the following URL is of interest
http://www.spamhaus.org/consumer/definition/
This clearly makes the point that spam is defined by two factors
A message is Spam only if it is both Unsolicited and Bulk
and being who they are
...
On 5/19/2012 10:46 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
I will point out that from the recipients point of view, a mailman
invite looks to be Bulk, they have no way to know if you sent it
specifically to them or to a large list.
...
One way around this is rather than us the mailman invite feature,
On 5/19/2012 2:13 AM, Anne Wainwright wrote:
Why would this not be set to 'list' rather than 'bulk'?
List posts are sent with Precedence: list. Notices from Mailman, e.g.
held message notices to an admin, invitations and welcome messages to
users, password reminders, etc. are all sent with
On May 19, 2012, at 4:13 AM, Anne Wainwright wrote:
Thanks for clarifying that, Brad, I wasn't sure what the import of
Mark's messsage was.
Why would this not be set to 'list' rather than 'bulk'?
According to RFC 2076, the Precedence: header is Non-standard,
controversial, discouraged.
Hi,
Have been offline for a goodly while hence tardy response to the thread
that I started. comments lower down, but thanks to Brad, Richard, Mark,
Stephen for their input.
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 12:33:24AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Anne Wainwright
Hi,
For the record the following URL is of interest
http://www.spamhaus.org/consumer/definition/
This clearly makes the point that spam is defined by two factors
A message is Spam only if it is both Unsolicited and Bulk
and being who they are their definition must carry some weight. In terms
Anne Wainwright wrote:
As an aside, I have to ask whether the 'invite' feature in Mailman has a
function. If one has to have been in existing contact such that you can
ask them if they would not object to an invite then one is in fact at
the point where you can ask them point blank if you can
On May 18, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Anne Wainwright wrote:
For the record the following URL is of interest
http://www.spamhaus.org/consumer/definition/
This clearly makes the point that spam is defined by two factors
A message is Spam only if it is both Unsolicited and Bulk
and being who
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Anne Wainwright
anothera...@fables.co.za wrote:
I recently sent an invite to an unknown third party.
Normally I agree with Brad Knowles on this kind of thing, but this
time I can't go 100%.
People regularly do make contacts with third parties that they have
not
Hi,
I recently sent an invite to an unknown third party. The invite came
from my mailman list, we gave full particulars of who and where we are.
We specifically advise that they are not at this stage subscribed to
anything and will have to follow the detailed instructions (ie confirm)
if they
On 4/26/12 3:39 AM, Anne Wainwright wrote:
Hi,
I recently sent an invite to an unknown third party. The invite came
from my mailman list, we gave full particulars of who and where we are.
We specifically advise that they are not at this stage subscribed to
anything and will have to follow
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:39:44 +0200
Anne Wainwright anothera...@fables.co.za wrote:
Hello Anne,
As I said in my reply, this is hardly spam, I did not send it out to
You sent out an Unsolicited Commercial Email (UCE) which, to most
people, constitutes SPAM. Whether you sent it to one person or
On Apr 26, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Anne Wainwright wrote:
As I said in my reply, this is hardly spam, I did not send it out to
half a million addresses purchased on a cd. This makes a mockery of
genuine spam prevention efforts when one email from a genuine address
can be allowed to cause this. It
As an additional FYI in this thread, Mailman sends invitations with a
Precedence: bulk header. This can only be changed by modifying code.
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