Re: [Mailman-Users] Br0ken Mailman - Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS - SOLVED

2019-01-29 Thread Odhiambo Washington
I somehow managed to solve this: apt install python-pip /usr/bin/pip uninstall dnspython /usr/bin/pip install dnspython Ubuntu seems to have moved python2.7 to /usr/bin while making python3.7 resident in /usr/local/bin On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 14:34, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I got an error t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manually treat certain domains as if they have restrictive DMARC policy

2019-01-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/28/19 8:46 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > David Gibbs via Mailman-Users writes: > > > > That's close to what I want ... the only issue is that I'm looking for the > > behavior to be site wide not on a per-list basis. > > I would guess that it wouldn't be hard to write a script for Mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manually treat certain domains as if they have restrictive DMARC policy

2019-01-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David Gibbs via Mailman-Users writes: > On 1/28/19 2:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > List of addresses (or regexps) whose posts should always apply > > dmarc_moderation_action regardless of any domain specific DMARC Policy. > > That's close to what I want ... the only issue is that I'm looking

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manually treat certain domains as if they have restrictive DMARC policy

2019-01-28 Thread David Gibbs via Mailman-Users
On 1/28/19 2:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: List of addresses (or regexps) whose posts should always apply dmarc_moderation_action regardless of any domain specific DMARC Policy. That's close to what I want ... the only issue is that I'm looking for the behavior to be site wide not on a per-list ba

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manually treat certain domains as if they have restrictive DMARC policy

2019-01-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/28/19 11:54 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: > > To resolve this, I'm thinking of creating a flat file of domains that > are causing this problem ... then modifying the _DMARCProhibited > routine, in Utils.py, to read the flat file and treat domains found in > that file as if they had

Re: [Mailman-Users] Manually treat certain domains as if they have restrictive DMARC policy

2019-01-28 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users
Hello David Gibbs via Mailman-Users. On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:54:21 -0600, you wrote: > I've got a number of subscribers who's email admins have set a policy > such that, if a message is sent to them with their email address as > the 'from' address, the message is rejected. > > This is causing t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nonsubscribers attacking one of my lists.

2019-01-19 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users
Hello Richard Damon. On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 21:43:42 -0500, you wrote: > It's basically a policy call. If it is a few known addresses, you can > add them to accept these non-members to white list. If you want to > accept some non-member but reject others, unless you can devise a filter > to distingui

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2019-01-19 Thread Brian Carpenter
> -Original Message- > From: Mailman-Users bounces+brian=emwd@python.org> On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:22 PM > To: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing > > On 1/19/19 2:41 PM, Kenneth G. Go

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2019-01-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/19/19 2:41 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote: > Over the past several weeks, I have received many reports from Mailman > concerning too > many bounces from certain subscribers who are normally very active on one of > my forums. > > All of these "Bounce Action Notification"'s appear to be coming

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest mode.

2019-01-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/19/19 2:44 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote: > One of my subscribers is complaining that he cannot activate the digest mode > for his > account. I can find nothing wrong in the admin database. > > Where should I look for this problem? What does the user do and what happens? -- Mark Sapiro

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nonsubscribers attacking one of my lists.

2019-01-19 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 19 Jan 2019 13:58:08 -0800 "Kenneth G. Gordon" wrote: > > One of my forums has suddenly been inundated with posts to the list by > non-subscribers, > most of which seem to be coming from some homosexual list somewhere. > > These seem to be coming from every place in the world. > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nonsubscribers attacking one of my lists.

2019-01-19 Thread Richard Damon
On 1/19/19 5:24 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote: > On 19 Jan 2019 at 17:08, Richard Damon wrote: > >> Set the action on Sender Filters for messages from non-members to >> discard, instead of hold. I had to do that a long time ago (Don´t >> reject or you will be generating back-scatter) > OK. I'll try

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2019-01-19 Thread Bernie Cosell
On January 19, 2019 18:00:35 "Kenneth G. Gordon" wrote: Over the past several weeks, I have received many reports from Mailman concerning too many bounces from certain subscribers who are normally very active on one of my forums. All of these "Bounce Action Notification"'s appear to be comi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

2019-01-19 Thread Richard Damon
On 1/19/19 5:41 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote: > Over the past several weeks, I have received many reports from Mailman > concerning too > many bounces from certain subscribers who are normally very active on one of > my forums. > > All of these "Bounce Action Notification"'s appear to be coming f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nonsubscribers attacking one of my lists.

2019-01-19 Thread Kenneth G. Gordon
On 19 Jan 2019 at 17:08, Richard Damon wrote: > Set the action on Sender Filters for messages from non-members to > discard, instead of hold. I had to do that a long time ago (Don´t > reject or you will be generating back-scatter) OK. I'll try that. I DO get messages from non-subscribers once

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nonsubscribers attacking one of my lists.

2019-01-19 Thread Richard Damon
Set the action on Sender Filters for messages from non-members to discard, instead of hold. I had to do that a long time ago (Don’t reject or you will be generating back-scatter) > On Jan 19, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon > wrote: > > One of my forums has suddenly been inundated with po

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some mailing lists are stuck

2019-01-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/18/19 9:56 PM, Dominik Hoffmann wrote: > I have a couple of mailing lists on my mailman server that don’t forward > messages to their members. There are no rules that would block them. It all > looks like they are stuck in a queue, which would just have to be unstuck. Is > there a command-l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into cPanel installation?

2019-01-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/15/19 3:40 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Mark Sapiro ... >> I may be wrong because Brian knows more about cPanel than I do, and I >> don't know what /scripts/fixmailinglistperms does, but I see an issue >> with the above. >> >> Namely, if the backups don't c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into cPanel installation?

2019-01-15 Thread Brian Carpenter
> -Original Message- > From: Mailman-Users bounces+brian=emwd@python.org> On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:04 PM > To: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into > cPanel installa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into cPanel installation?

2019-01-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/15/19 7:44 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > If the host is willing to move your archives then they can do the same for > your lists. This is what you do: > > 1. Log into cPanel > > 2. Create the lists that you are migrating over. > > 3. Contact the host and ask them to overwrite those list d

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into cPanel installation?

2019-01-15 Thread Brian Carpenter
> Thank you (and to Brian Carpenter for his separate reply). I do not have > access to the /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty directory myself. However, the > hosting provider has said that they can put the archives in the right location > here; the hard thing is, as you say, getting the lists themselves i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into cPanel installation?

2019-01-15 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 18:08, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 08:20:21AM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 1/14/19 4:02 AM, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to migrate a group of Mailman lists onto a new shared > hosting provider. I do not have direct access to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into cPanel installation?

2019-01-15 Thread Jesse Sheidlower
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 08:20:21AM -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 1/14/19 4:02 AM, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: > > > > I'm trying to migrate a group of Mailman lists onto a new shared hosting > > provider. I do not have direct access to the original system; the sysadmin > > there has given me a full

Re: [Mailman-Users] Allow posting from addresses with modifiers?

2019-01-14 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 01/14/2019 11:13 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: To place the burden on john, he can subscribe both addresses and set j...@example.com to nomail. This is what I have done for many mailing lists. — I subscribe with one private address for email filtering and reply from another public email address

Re: [Mailman-Users] Allow posting from addresses with modifiers?

2019-01-14 Thread David Gibbs via Mailman-Users
On 1/14/2019 12:13 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 1/14/19 8:40 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: Anyone know if it's possible to configure MM 2.1 to allow posting with an email address that has a modifier? You can't configure Mailman to just do it without making code changes, OK, thanks.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Allow posting from addresses with modifiers?

2019-01-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/14/19 8:40 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Anyone know if it's possible to configure MM 2.1 to allow posting with > an email address that has a modifier? You can't configure Mailman to just do it without making code changes, but there are possibilities: > For example ... if s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into cPanel installation?

2019-01-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/14/19 4:02 AM, Jesse Sheidlower wrote: > > I'm trying to migrate a group of Mailman lists onto a new shared hosting > provider. I do not have direct access to the original system; the sysadmin > there has given me a full tarball of the mailman directory, including the > archives/, data/, a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into cPanel installation?

2019-01-14 Thread Brian Carpenter
> -Original Message- > From: Mailman-Users bounces+brian=emwd@python.org> On Behalf Of Jesse Sheidlower > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:03 AM > To: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Restoring manually backed-up archives into cPanel > installation? > > > I'm tryin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Prevent MM from adding a CC for DMARC munged posts?

2019-01-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/11/19 7:06 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a way to prevent MM from adding the > original posters email address as a CC when the DMARC munging is done? The following comment from Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py describes the goals for handling the o

Re: [Mailman-Users] How many abonents mailman can handle ?

2019-01-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/9/19 7:15 AM, Konrad Wawryn wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to create newsletter mailing list with ~3,2mln abonents. > > The question is, can Mailman handle it ? Will it be possible to import > via command line such a big amount of users ? See . The answer d

Re: [Mailman-Users] How many abonents mailman can handle ?

2019-01-10 Thread Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On Wed, 09 Jan 2019 16:15:26 +0100 Konrad Wawryn wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to create newsletter mailing list with ~3,2mln abonents. > > The question is, can Mailman handle it ? Will it be possible to > import via command line such a big amount of users ? Ours choked on a few thousand, we e

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong Indentation in MailMan archive (threads)

2019-01-08 Thread Kristin Solbakken
Hi, and thanks for the detailed explanation, this all makes sense now. I now ran the arch script with wipe option, and the archive is back to normal. As for the mails that did not go to the archive I did not see any related message in the error.log , but my guess is that this was caused by the qrun

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong Indentation in MailMan archive (threads)

2019-01-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/8/19 2:03 AM, Kristin Solbakken wrote: > Hi. We had some mails missing from the archive, so I ran ./bin/arch > listname to update the archive. This fixed the missing mails part, but > somehow must have messed up the indentation. If you actually ran './bin/arch listname', the input was the cu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Install mailman-2.1.z with python3.6

2019-01-07 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 1/7/19 4:19 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 20:37, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Which is expected because Mailman 2.1 does not support Python 3 and >> never will. > > Noted! I thought I could eliminate python2 from my server :) Not yet, unfortunately. -- Phil Stracchino

Re: [Mailman-Users] Install mailman-2.1.z with python3.6

2019-01-07 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 20:37, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 1/7/19 1:22 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I need to install Mailman2.1 using python3.x, but I have had some > problem. > > > > On my Ubuntu-18.04 server, I have both python2.7 and python3.6. > > Now, everything is all fine with python2.7,

Re: [Mailman-Users] mm-handler same as postfix-to-mailman.py

2019-01-07 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 1/7/19 2:13 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > I think Sendmail (and other MTAs that I've tested) default to > user@host.domain too.  But that's just a default that's easy to change. LOL. Not on IRIX it wasn't. > Or are you saying that you used > MX records to route email to a differ

Re: [Mailman-Users] mm-handler same as postfix-to-mailman.py

2019-01-07 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 01/07/2019 09:59 AM, Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote: We used to run irix whose sendmail sent every message from host.domain and every A record had to have an adjacent MX record for e-mail to even work. That way lies madness. Hum. I think Sendmail (and other MTAs that I've tested) de

Re: [Mailman-Users] Install mailman-2.1.z with python3.6

2019-01-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/7/19 1:22 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I need to install Mailman2.1 using python3.x, but I have had some problem. > > On my Ubuntu-18.04 server, I have both python2.7 and python3.6. > Now, everything is all fine with python2.7, but when I use python3.6, it > bombs out: Which is expected

Re: [Mailman-Users] mm-handler same as postfix-to-mailman.py

2019-01-07 Thread Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 15:47:01 -0700 Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > Hi Jim, > > On 1/4/19 3:40 AM, Jim Ziobro wrote: > > Setting up mailing lists in a separate domain has a nice > > administrative appeal. We used to run irix whose sendmail sent every message from host.domain and every A r

Re: [Mailman-Users] mm-handler same as postfix-to-mailman.py

2019-01-06 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
Hi Jim, On 1/4/19 3:40 AM, Jim Ziobro wrote: Setting up mailing lists in a separate domain has a nice administrative appeal. Agreed. That's how I've always done it. If I ever cared enough, I could set up a forward (et al) from l...@example.net to l...@lists.example.net. Maybe not automatic

Re: [Mailman-Users] admindb pages redirect to localhost

2019-01-04 Thread David Newman
On 1/4/19 5:10 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 1/4/19 4:40 PM, David Newman wrote: >> >> Actually, the localhost issue began _after_ I ran "bin/withlist -l -a -r >> fix_url" from the /usr/local/mailman directory and restarted the Mailman >> service. > > > In your OP you said > >> mm_cfg.py mods:

Re: [Mailman-Users] admindb pages redirect to localhost

2019-01-04 Thread David Newman
On 1/4/19 4:40 PM, David Newman wrote: > > > On 1/4/19 12:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> On 1/3/19 2:18 PM, David Newman wrote: >>> FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p1, mailman-2.1.29_5, postfix-3.3.2_1,1, >>> nginx-1.14.2_3,2 >>> >>> Greetings. Could use help understanding two issues after migrating from >>>

Re: [Mailman-Users] admindb pages redirect to localhost

2019-01-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/4/19 4:40 PM, David Newman wrote: > > Actually, the localhost issue began _after_ I ran "bin/withlist -l -a -r > fix_url" from the /usr/local/mailman directory and restarted the Mailman > service. In your OP you said > mm_cfg.py mods: > > ##

Re: [Mailman-Users] admindb pages redirect to localhost

2019-01-04 Thread David Newman
On 1/4/19 12:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 1/3/19 2:18 PM, David Newman wrote: >> FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p1, mailman-2.1.29_5, postfix-3.3.2_1,1, >> nginx-1.14.2_3,2 >> >> Greetings. Could use help understanding two issues after migrating from >> Apache to nginx: >> >> 1. All Mailman web pages lo

Re: [Mailman-Users] question on bounce processing

2019-01-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/4/19 12:21 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > Thanks Mark. > > Is there a way to have the bounce notification and info be sent to a > different email address (like me instead of the list owner)? It would be > too technical to have them sent to the owner. The best you can do is add your own addre

Re: [Mailman-Users] question on bounce processing

2019-01-04 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Thanks Mark. Is there a way to have the bounce notification and info be sent to a different email address (like me instead of the list owner)? It would be too technical to have them sent to the owner. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 11:59 AM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 1/4/19 9:55 AM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote

Re: [Mailman-Users] admindb pages redirect to localhost

2019-01-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/3/19 2:18 PM, David Newman wrote: > FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p1, mailman-2.1.29_5, postfix-3.3.2_1,1, > nginx-1.14.2_3,2 > > Greetings. Could use help understanding two issues after migrating from > Apache to nginx: > > 1. All Mailman web pages load as expect except links from the admindb > page

Re: [Mailman-Users] question on bounce processing

2019-01-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/4/19 9:55 AM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > > Where should I look at for trying to figure out why particular members are > being dropped off? I have members receiving the excessive bounce messages > but I'm not finding much in the mail log relative to excessive bounces for > the email address (I'

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the mailman access url

2019-01-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/3/19 9:36 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have manually installed mailman and moved the files. This is on the same > server. > Now my problem is the urls: > I have http://FQDN/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/LISTNAME which I would like to > change to http://FQDN/mailman/admin/skunkworks - ideally, ju

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing the mailman access url

2019-01-03 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 1/3/19 12:36 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have manually installed mailman and moved the files. This is on the same > server. > Now my problem is the urls: > I have http://FQDN/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/LISTNAME which I would like to > change to http://FQDN/mailman/admin/skunkworks - ideally, j

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & DMARC policy = none?

2018-12-31 Thread Richard Damon
On 12/31/18 3:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/31/18 10:36 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: >> I'm curious as to how people are setting >> 'dmarc_none_moderation_action'... which controls how Mailman handles >> domains with a dmarc policy action of none (like gmail.com). >> >> Is there a c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & DMARC policy = none?

2018-12-31 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/31/18 10:36 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I'm curious as to how people are setting > 'dmarc_none_moderation_action'... which controls how Mailman handles > domains with a dmarc policy action of none (like gmail.com). > > Is there a compelling reason to set it to Yes so that m

Re: [Mailman-Users] authorized to a moderated list

2018-12-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/17/18 6:17 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > i have a list that only a few people are allowed to post to. I had done this > by > putting everyone on the list to "MOD" and put the handful of people > authorized > to post into the OK addresses field on the general tab. It turns out that > one

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-16 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hello Barry, I was able to resolve this, using the Ubuntu package itself, so I do not need to manually compile. But it also gave me the impetus of learning how to manually compile stuff in Linux . Now that MM21 is running, I need help running MM3 alongside it and migrate from 2.1 The main purpose

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-16 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 12/16/2018 3:05 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 20:13, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 12/15/18 1:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: # User and group for Mailman, should match your --with-mail-gid # switch to Mailman's configure script. Value is normally "mailman" MM_UID=list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-16 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 20:13, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/15/18 1:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > # User and group for Mailman, should match your --with-mail-gid > > # switch to Mailman's configure script. Value is normally "mailman" > > MM_UID=list > > MM_GID=list > > > > Now, posts ca

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-15 Thread Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 09:13:27 -0800 Mark Sapiro wrote: > My recomendation, especially if you want help from this list is to > junk the Ubuntu package and install from source. I would recommend ditching ubuntu, too, and going with something that a) isn't systemd and b) comes with postfix. If I we

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Exim in Ubuntu

2018-12-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/15/18 1:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > # User and group for Mailman, should match your --with-mail-gid > # switch to Mailman's configure script. Value is normally "mailman" > MM_UID=list > MM_GID=list > > Now, posts cannot be delivered because: > 2018-12-15 00:00:58 1gXuEg-0006Hn-2J

Re: [Mailman-Users] SOLVED scrub attachments

2018-12-14 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 12/14/18 11:18 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > . Oh, so it's a feature. Colour me surprised. -- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -

Re: [Mailman-Users] SOLVED scrub attachments

2018-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/14/18 12:44 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: > Hello Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users. On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:45:31 -0600, > you wrote: > >> So this was a user problem, mailman works exactly as advertised: >> - user has his e-mail forwarded to gmail, >> - gmail put it in "all

Re: [Mailman-Users] members not receiving their own messages.

2018-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
This is a follow-up on the original thread from last August which resulted if the FAQ at . I have tested the filter described in that FAQ and I find that it only appears to work. What it does is place a copy of your sent message in your inbox as you send it so it

Re: [Mailman-Users] SOLVED scrub attachments

2018-12-14 Thread Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users
Hello Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users. On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:45:31 -0600, you wrote: > So this was a user problem, mailman works exactly as advertised: > - user has his e-mail forwarded to gmail, > - gmail put it in "all mail", > - not seeing it in "inbox", the user went and checked the archive

Re: [Mailman-Users] SOLVED scrub attachments

2018-12-13 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
So this was a user problem, mailman works exactly as advertised: - user has his e-mail forwarded to gmail, - gmail put it in "all mail", - not seeing it in "inbox", the user went and checked the archives, - where the attachments were scrubbed. Now that we found the actual e-mails, the attachments

Re: [Mailman-Users] scrub attachments

2018-12-12 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 12/12/18 5:53 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > If you're asking if a non-digest member is set to 'plain' would > attachments be scrubbed from posts sent to that member, the answer is > no. the 'plain' setting affects only the digest format for digest > members. It has no effect for non-digest members.

Re: [Mailman-Users] scrub attachments

2018-12-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/12/18 3:30 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote: > > It's a non-digest list (and yes, I get the archives), but here's the > thought: if a member's set to "plain", would that also trigger the scrub? The 'plain' member setting only affects the format of the digest the member receives i

Re: [Mailman-Users] scrub attachments

2018-12-12 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 12/12/18 4:42 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Those settings allow non-plain text attachments to remain as attachments > in individual messages and MIME format digests sent to list members, but > they will always be 'scrubbed' from plain text digests and the pipermail > archive because those things on

Re: [Mailman-Users] DKIM

2018-12-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/12/18 2:32 PM, Christoffer Hansen wrote: > "Reply-To:" field can be set with the original senders email address.[0] > (This is configurable by list admins as configuration option out of > several possible) > > Cheers > > Christoffer > > [0]: https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-adm

Re: [Mailman-Users] scrub attachments

2018-12-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/12/18 1:51 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote: > Hi all, > > I've a user send a message with pdf attachments and they ended up as > html links to the web archive. Which is fine except > - content filtering is off, > - scrub attachments is set to no. > I though that was supposed to al

Re: [Mailman-Users] DKIM

2018-12-12 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/12/18 11:35 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > I have two questions about the DKIM/spf munging that mailman does. > > First: when it replaces the 'from' with a munged address [replacing the name > with "name via thislist" does it stick the original email address somewhere > in the > message, so i

Re: [Mailman-Users] DKIM

2018-12-12 Thread Christoffer Hansen
Bernie, On 12/12/2018 20:35, Bernie Cosell wrote: > First: when it replaces the 'from' with a munged address [replacing the name > with "name via thislist" does it stick the original email address somewhere > in the > message, (...) "Reply-To:" field can be set with the original senders email a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-12-09 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 22:37, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/9/18 10:14 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > In my quest to run Mailman3, I obtained a VM running Ubuntu 18.04 and > > started on getting to run Mailman3. > > I found this link -> https://github.com/iomarmochtar/mailman3_ei > > It has i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 on Ubuntu 18.04

2018-12-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/9/18 10:14 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > In my quest to run Mailman3, I obtained a VM running Ubuntu 18.04 and > started on getting to run Mailman3. > I found this link -> https://github.com/iomarmochtar/mailman3_ei > It has instructions which looked fairly simple to get Mailman3 instal

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-09 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 03:47, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/7/18 2:12 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 07:27, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > >> On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > >>> I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/7/18 2:12 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 07:27, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. >>> I'd like to get an inside of these changes: >>> 1. how many member

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing not made easy?

2018-12-07 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/7/18 5:06 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Today a subscriber of a list sent an empty email trying to unsubscribe. He > addressed the message to the list address , with the > subject "unsubscribe", and else nothing. But instead of his unsubsciption > being processed, Mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscribing not made easy?

2018-12-07 Thread mailman-admin
Hi Am 07.12.18 um 14:06 schrieb Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users: > > I have a Mailman 2.1.27 installation on cPanel 76.0.7. > > Today a subscriber of a list sent an empty email trying to unsubscribe. He > addressed the message to the list address , with the > subject "unsubscribe", and el

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-07 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 07:27, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > > 2. How many me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi All, > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > 2. How many members left last month, this month, this year. I had some time

Re: [Mailman-Users] Translation (Localization) of mail addresses?

2018-12-06 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 12/06/2018 11:24 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > As a native italian speaker (who however virtually always uses the > English interface in the *GUI* of mailman and any other tool) I would > regard as highly inconvenient any localization of *service address > suffixes*). Oh, I dunno. I think "поч

Re: [Mailman-Users] Translation (Localization) of mail addresses?

2018-12-06 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, Jim Ziobro wrote: Are there any plans to support changing of mail interface addresses for other languages? ??('admin', 'bounces', 'confirm', 'join', 'leave', 'owner', 'request', 'subscribe', 'unsubscribe'): ??Should the Italian mail extensions be something like: ??

Re: [Mailman-Users] Translation (Localization) of mail addresses?

2018-12-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/5/18 9:28 PM, Jim Ziobro wrote: > Are there any plans to support changing of mail interface addresses for > other languages? Steve has already replied in detail and I agree with what he has said. For Mailman 2.1, No localization of the address suffixes will be done. For Mailman 3, it is no

Re: [Mailman-Users] Updated view on Sendmail integration

2018-12-05 Thread Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 10:28:53 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users writes: > > So basically unix user/group access model is wrong because sendmail > > is full of bugs? > > Please, Dmitri. All large software applications are full of bugs Yes, and then there's se

Re: [Mailman-Users] Updated view on Sendmail integration

2018-12-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users writes: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 10:30:53 -0500 > Jim Ziobro wrote: > ... > > Is the directory “/etc/mailman” group-writable only to support the > > creation of an aliases file?I would feel more confident if /etc/mailman > > was only writable by root. > > So

Re: [Mailman-Users] Updated view on Sendmail integration

2018-12-04 Thread Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 10:30:53 -0500 Jim Ziobro wrote: ... > Is the directory “/etc/mailman” group-writable only to support the > creation of an aliases file?I would feel more confident if /etc/mailman > was only writable by root. So basically unix user/group access model is wrong because sendmail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Updated view on Sendmail integration

2018-12-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/3/18 7:30 AM, Jim Ziobro wrote: > > Another approach was mm-handler.Mm-handler handles the security bridge > by calling back Mailman after it has switched to UID/GID: > mailman/mailman.An elegant solution.The v3 version > optionally allows mail not destined

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot use mailman moderation over HTTPS, fix_url ineffective, mm_cfg.py does not apply

2018-12-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/4/18 4:35 AM, Nikolaos Andriopoulos wrote: > > Things checked: > - The web server configuration seems OK, and properly redirects to HTTPS. Redirects of POST lose the POST data. > - The current mm_cfg.py ( with comments omitted ) is the following: > > from Defaults import * > imp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 17:55, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/3/18 6:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > Mark, how about a request to incorporate those options in the following > > script? > > > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/annotate/head%3A/contrib/mmdsr > > > > I am th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/3/18 6:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Mark, how about a request to incorporate those options in the following > script? > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/annotate/head%3A/contrib/mmdsr > > I am thinking that for you, it'd would be clear (probably simpler) what

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 17:11, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > > 2. How many me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/3/18 4:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi All, > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > 2. How many members left last month, this month, this year. > > I keep the l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman subscription/unsubscription reports

2018-12-03 Thread Richard Damon
On 12/3/18 7:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hi All, > > I am running a list that has members joining and leaving. > I'd like to get an inside of these changes: > 1. how many members joined last month, this month.. > 2. How many members left last month, this month, this year. > > I keep the log

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some site blocking our emails from mailman 2.1.29 ?

2018-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/30/18 4:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > If they are really rejecting the mail because of the literal '-bounces' > in the envelope sender, you can change that. In Mailman 2.1 the > 'list-admin' address is a deprecateGetBouncesEmaild (from Mailman 2.0) > synonym for 'list-bounces and should be a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some site blocking our emails from mailman 2.1.29 ?

2018-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/30/18 2:17 PM, Matthew Goebel wrote: > Hello, > > We've recently had one or two sites block email coming from one of our > lists. > They seem to indicate it is because of sending address having bounces in it? > ie... listname-boun...@list.emich.edu > This seems odd, and I'm trying to figur

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some site blocking our emails from mailman 2.1.29 ?

2018-11-30 Thread Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users
On 11/30/2018 04:17 PM, Matthew Goebel wrote: > Hello, > > We've recently had one or two sites block email coming from one of our > lists. > They seem to indicate it is because of sending address having bounces in it? > ie... listname-boun...@list.emich.edu > This seems odd, and I'm trying to fi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some site blocking our emails from mailman 2.1.29 ?

2018-11-30 Thread Lindsay Haisley (linode)
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 30, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Matthew Goebel wrote: > > We've recently had one or two sites block email coming from one of our > lists. > They seem to indicate it is because of sending address having bounces in it? Email is probably the most stressed service on the Inter

Re: [Mailman-Users] UTF-8 and digests...

2018-11-30 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 11/30/2018 10:33 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Plain text digests are encoded in Mailman's character set for the list's preferred_language. For English, this is us-ascii unless you've changed it. Thus, non-ascii unicodes will be rendered as '?' in the plain digest. You can change Mailman's character

Re: [Mailman-Users] UTF-8 and digests...

2018-11-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/30/18 9:18 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > Is it expected that Mailman will preserve UTF-8 (punctuation symbols) in > non-MIME digests? It depends. > Is this a known limitation of non-MIME digests?  Or is it possibly a > symptom of a problem? Plain text digests are encoded i

Re: [Mailman-Users] can you set 'notmetoo' by default for all new subs?

2018-11-30 Thread Fabian A. Santiago
thank you. i was just going to email the list stating that i had found that. thanks again. -- Thanks, Fabian S. OpenPGP: 0x643082042DC83E6D94B86C405E3DAA18A1C22D8F ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, November 29, 2018 5:00 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/29/18 1:26 PM, Fabian A.

Re: [Mailman-Users] can you set 'notmetoo' by default for all new subs?

2018-11-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/29/18 1:26 PM, Fabian A. Santiago wrote: > hi, > > as my subject states, can you set 'notmetoo' by default for all new subs? On the list admin General Options page there is a new_member_options setting with 4 check boxes Conceal the member's address Acknowledge the member's posting Do not

Re: [Mailman-Users] mm-handler or aliases to integrate with sendmail

2018-11-29 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 11/29/2018 02:00 AM, Jim Ziobro wrote: Mm-handler is definitely a cool idea. But it seems that once Mailman can update Sendmail's aliases immediately there is no need for mm-handler. I view things a little bit differently. Why should I need to reconfigure the MTA when I'm making a change to

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