Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 2017-06-15 00:46:17 (+0200), Bob Stern wrote: FYI, a counter-intuitive aspect of app-specific passwords is that they need not be specific to a single application. Although Apple can issue up to 25 different app-specific passwords for a given iCloud account, the

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

FYI, a counter-intuitive aspect of app-specific passwords is that they need not be specific to a single application. Although Apple can issue up to 25 different app-specific passwords for a given iCloud account, the account owner can elect to use a single app-specific password for multiple

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

I just got the following today: This is a reminder that beginning on June 15, app-specific passwords will be required to access your iCloud data using third‑party apps such as Microsoft Outlook, Mozilla Thunderbird, or other mail, contacts, and calendar services not provided by Apple. If

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 9 Jun 2017, at 20:03, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: I wasn’t quite remembering correctly. Following is the email I received… Thanks. == Thank you for using two-step verification to protect the security of your Apple ID. If you install the iOS 11 or macOS High Sierra

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Sorry, I wasn’t quite remembering correctly. Following is the email I received… == Thank you for using two-step verification to protect the security of your Apple ID. If you install the iOS 11 or macOS High Sierra public betas this summer and meet the basic

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

I'm in Canada and I received my iCloud notification almost a month ago. On 9 Jun 2017, at 8:22, David Vereschagin wrote: On 9 Jun 2017, at 8:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: as far as I know then iCloud accounts are still going to require application specific passwords starting June 15th.

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 9 Jun 2017, at 16:27, David Ledger wrote: On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:22, David Vereschagin wrote: Neither my wife nor I in the UK have heard either. Mine just forwards to my own domain account, but my wife uses hers directly. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. -- Benny

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 9 Jun 2017, at 16:26, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: My understanding is that it will be with the next release of MacOS (High Sierra?), sometime this fall… unless you are using one of the beta builds. If you find a link to this information then please share. -- Benny

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 9 Jun 2017, at 16:22, David Vereschagin wrote: On 9 Jun 2017, at 8:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: as far as I know then iCloud accounts are still going to require application specific passwords starting June 15th. Although I've been reading about this, I haven't done anything because I

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:22, David Vereschagin wrote: On 9 Jun 2017, at 8:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: as far as I know then iCloud accounts are still going to require application specific passwords starting June 15th. Although I've been reading about this, I haven't done anything because I

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

My understanding is that it will be with the next release of MacOS (High Sierra?), sometime this fall… unless you are using one of the beta builds. v On 9 Jun 2017, at 10:22, David Vereschagin wrote: On 9 Jun 2017, at 8:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: as far as I know then iCloud accounts

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 9 Jun 2017, at 8:52, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: as far as I know then iCloud accounts are still going to require application specific passwords starting June 15th. Although I've been reading about this, I haven't done anything because I have yet to receive any communication from Apple

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Hi iCloud email account users, as far as I know then iCloud accounts are still going to require application specific passwords starting June 15th. I've put up [a blog post](https://blog.freron.com/2017/application-specific-passwords/) about this change. Hopefully, most MailMate users are

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Ditto. Though I have only two Macs and two iOS devices... On 16 May 2017, at 15:53, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On 16 May 2017, at 15:49, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: I would recommend a good password manager though. I use 1Password, which helps me organise this quite nicely. Each platform

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 16 May 2017, at 15:49, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: I would recommend a good password manager though. I use 1Password, which helps me organise this quite nicely. Each platform with application specific passwords is a separate entity in my data, and I make a new "Password" item within that

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Hi, On 17 May 2017, at 0531, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I will note that I turned on 2FA long ago, and I've had zero trouble with MailMate and its app-specific password. You set it up once; after that, it just works. Echoing Steve here. I use several platforms which make use of per-app

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 16 May 2017, at 18:12, Brian LaFreda wrote: MailMate does work with Apple’s app specific passwords, just don’t use the FQDN’d email address for username. Truncate the @me/mac/icloud.com and you’re good to go. I don't know if app specific passwords trigger this to be important (it's a bit

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 16 May 2017, at 11:35, Brian LaFreda brian.lafr...@me.com wrote: Sorry all, didn’t mean to confuse anybody… :) Most people here are much smarter than me, so I just assumed…lol Not a problem. Glad you did or I would have remained forever ignorant. Just kicking myself for not googling, I

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Sorry all, didn’t mean to confuse anybody… :) Most people here are much smarter than me, so I just assumed…lol On 16 May 2017, at 12:33, Richard Rettke wrote: On 16 May 2017, at 11:30, Thomas Eckhold tho...@eckhold.eu wrote: I had to google it and found **F**ully **Q**ualified **D**omain 

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 16 May 2017, at 11:30, Thomas Eckhold tho...@eckhold.eu wrote: I had to google it and found **F**ully **Q**ualified **D**omain **N**ame... Thomas Thank you Thomas. Didn't think to google it. Head slapping now! -- __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae*

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

He just means to use the part before the @ sign as the username rather than using the whole email address. -sam On 16 May 2017, at 12:26 PM EDT, Richard Rettke wrote: On 16 May 2017, at 11:12, Brian LaFreda brian.lafr...@me.com wrote: just don’t use the FQDN’d email address for username

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

I had to google it and found **F**ully **Q**ualified **D**omain **N**ame... Thomas On 16 May 2017, at 18:26, Richard Rettke wrote: On 16 May 2017, at 11:12, Brian LaFreda brian.lafr...@me.com wrote: just don’t use the FQDN’d email address for username Hmm? Color me ignorant. I don't

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

On 16 May 2017, at 11:12, Brian LaFreda brian.lafr...@me.com wrote: just don’t use the FQDN’d email address for username Hmm? Color me ignorant. I don't understand the term **FQDN'd** email address. Please elucidate. I'm sure when you tell me I'll head slap myself. -- __*Richard

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Just FYI… MailMate does work with Apple’s app specific passwords, just don’t use the FQDN’d email address for username. Truncate the @me/mac/icloud.com and you’re good to go. On 16 May 2017, at 8:02, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Hi, Apple has announced (by email) that iCloud email accounts

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Security is a pain in the butt…. we’ve been trying to encourage people to use 2F at the small university where I work… it’s like pulling teeth! Most people turn it back off after less than a day. Users are the weakest link ;-) v On 16 May 2017, at 10:15, Robert Brenstein wrote: I have

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

I have turned the 2F authentication on, found it a nuisance, then turned it off. So that part works. However, this does not mean that app-specific passwords will continue to work. Someone has to try. Robert On 16 May 2017, at 15:12, Annamarie wrote: That may be true - but I have many clients

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

That may be true - but I have many clients for whom passwords are already a problem - this is going to make it even worse! Sigh. I guess it's job security for me.? Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 16 May 2017, at 8:49, Fredrik Jonsson

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

David Morrison 2017-05-16 14:34 wrote: It requires two factor authentication to be turned on to generate the app specific password. Can you turn two factor authentication off after the password has been generated? Even if you can you really shouldn't. TFA is a huge security improvement for

Re: [MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Hi, Apple has announced (by email) that iCloud email accounts are going to require the use of an app specific password. If you have an iCloud email account then you might want to look into this before June 15th. The email is described

[MlMt] iCloud accounts require an app specific password starting June 15th

Hi, Apple has announced (by email) that iCloud email accounts are going to require the use of an app specific password. If you have an iCloud email account then you might want to look into this before June 15th. The email is described