In article <01d13493$6df98140$49ec83c0$@iname.com> you write:
>I'd recommend that rather than forward messages to Google that you have
>those Google accounts POP the messages from smokva.net.
What I do is to run them through spamassassin, forward the ones with a
low spam score so they get ther
I'd recommend that rather than forward messages to Google that you have
those Google accounts POP the messages from smokva.net.
Frank
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:59 AM, David Hofstee wrote:
> That’s why, in ESP parlance, there are two sorts of bounces, to keep it
> simple:
>
> - Hardbounces: The recipient address does not work. Contact
> through other means.
>
> - Softbounces: This email did not arrive. Try agai
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 6:06 AM, Ian Eiloart wrote:
>
> I wonder why they don’t use the terminology from the RFCs: "reject", "defer",
> "non-delivery notification", "delay notification"?
>
> As it is, when you say "Hardbounce", I don’t know whether you’re referring to
> an SMTP 5yz reply (a re
Hi Ian,
So ESP parlance, 'a particular manner of speaking', is not RFC parlance. That
part is true. We have to explain our customers, who are not techies, what is
going on with their mails. We either say that the mail is delivered or bounced
(=did not arrive in ESP parlance). And if it bounced,
I wonder why they don’t use the terminology from the RFCs: "reject", "defer",
"non-delivery notification", "delay notification"?
As it is, when you say "Hardbounce", I don’t know whether you’re referring to
an SMTP 5yz reply (a rejection) by the receiving MTA or an rfc 3461 "failed"
DSN sent t
That’s why, in ESP parlance, there are two sorts of bounces, to keep it simple:
- Hardbounces: The recipient address does not work. Contact through
other means.
- Softbounces: This email did not arrive. Try again later or contact
through other means. If this keeps happening t
> On 10 Dec 2015, at 18:43, Franck Martin wrote:
>
> It also has to do with people not understanding DSN. Seriously they are ugly
> and hard to find the relevant information in them...
Agreed, but if the recipient doesn’t understand the message, and doesn’t act on
it, then it doesn’t matter w
Also bounce.io , but these are very bad services. They bounce to the reply
to, not bounce address: former is likely monitored, latter is likely
automated removal.
On Dec 11, 2015 10:40 AM, "Franck Martin" wrote:
> There a whole business, https://betterbounces.net, based on rewriting the
> NDR int
There a whole business, https://betterbounces.net, based on rewriting the
NDR into something any user can read, with a meaningful call to action.
I love the technical info too, but as Brandon said, it could be later in
the email.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Brandon Long wrote:
> I was just
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