Re: [mailop] Email issue with Synacor?

2016-03-18 Thread Frank Bulk
Thanks. The CableOne NOC responded to me a little while ago and said they are bringing this to the attention of their email provider (which appears to be Synacor). Frank From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Brett Schenker Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:35 PM To

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

2016-03-18 Thread Michael Wise
Has the customer signed up for JMRP or SNDS? Because if not, that would be step #0; see below. And yes, under certain circumstances, Hotmail/Outlook will 250 the mail, and may then if it considers the IP sufficiently toxic, delete it without delivering it to the intended recipient’s INBOX or Jun

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

2016-03-18 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Michael Wise wrote: > We **ARE** working on making it easier… > > > > Witness this (granted, if’s for Exchange Online, but): > > > > https://sender.office.com > Handy. I'm stashing that link away. > Is that shack for rent on weekends? > Yes.

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

2016-03-18 Thread Michael Wise
Acceptable by whom? HotMail has been doing it for some time. Many people external to Microsoft have noted this for some time… It’s another policy we’re trying to change. 400+ Million customers online, tens of thousands of servers in many datacenters across the planet, all acting more or less as

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

2016-03-18 Thread Michael Wise
☺ Heh… Dunno if I could tolerate that many farm animals, as I really need to sleep in on the weekends. But I will keep it in mind. ☺ Although I’d prefer cider or, “Not Your Father’s Rootbeer” (that stuff goes down wickedfast) Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise | Microsoft | Spam Analysis | "You

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

2016-03-18 Thread Dominique Rousseau
Hi Mike, Le Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 12:38:36AM +, Michael Wise [michael.w...@microsoft.com] a écrit: > Has the customer signed up for JMRP or SNDS? > Because if not, that would be step #0; see below. Thanks for the clear roadmap for getting feedback from Outlook/MS/Live ! (I never found such c

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

2016-03-18 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > How much is their non-delivery problem costing them? Be sure to include > lost-time as well as charges that show up on a bill > Dealing with everyone except Microsoft took about 20 minutes. Over 8 years, this is the first time it's come up.

Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

2016-03-18 Thread G. Miliotis
On 18/3/2016 23:35, Hal Murray wrote: In a way, I'm thankful that Microsoft is making it difficult to get delisted. It makes people think about the cost-shifting they are doing. They probably aren't thinking of it as cost-shifting, but at least they are becoming more aware of the problem. Ros