Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

If you wanna hit me up at deputies at spamcop.net I can look at exactly what you're seeing and I can have a look at what we can do to get around it. To SpamCop, a URL is a URL. Unless told otherwise, it can't tell the difference between a URL for wiener pills from the one you put to your boss

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

Hello, On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 03:34:34PM -0800, Laura Atkins wrote: > > On Feb 6, 2018, at 2:49 PM, John Levine wrote: > > Putting a URL in a List-Unsubscribe header is an entirely reasonable > > thing to do, and lots of ESPs do it. > > Lots of non-ESPs do it, too. > > List-Unsubscribe:

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

On 2018-02-06 16:34, Laura Atkins wrote: Putting a URL in a List-Unsubscribe header is an entirely reasonable thing to do, and lots of ESPs do it. Lots of non-ESPs do it, too. Heck, I do it for virtually all automated messages, even on some internal stuff, basically anything that is automat

Re: [mailop] Mail Transfer Agent Alternatives

That seems excessive and gross. Any reason you wouldn't just buy a new license and call it a day? That actually sounds more like they accidentally hired a commissioned sales rep from a competitor. But maybe that's just me. On 2018-02-06 14:14, Marc Goldman via mailop wrote: I appreciate that

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

On 2018-02-06 15:49, John Levine wrote: In article <7e12d5ff-f770-b5db-f913-18dafcd03...@thedave.ca> you write: Also URLs in mail headers, which is perhaps reasonable, except that ...many ESPs now put unsub URLs in the headers. Are the results any more harmful than the same unsub URL in the

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

> On Feb 6, 2018, at 2:49 PM, John Levine wrote: > > In article <7e12d5ff-f770-b5db-f913-18dafcd03...@thedave.ca> you write: Also URLs in mail headers, which is perhaps reasonable, except that >>> >>> ...many ESPs now put unsub URLs in the headers. >> >> Are the results any more harmful t

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:00 PM John Levine wrote: > In article <7e12d5ff-f770-b5db-f913-18dafcd03...@thedave.ca> you write: > >>> Also URLs in mail headers, which is perhaps reasonable, except that > >> > >> ...many ESPs now put unsub URLs in the headers. > > > >Are the results any more harmful t

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

In article <7e12d5ff-f770-b5db-f913-18dafcd03...@thedave.ca> you write: >>> Also URLs in mail headers, which is perhaps reasonable, except that >> >> ...many ESPs now put unsub URLs in the headers. > >Are the results any more harmful than the same unsub URL in the foot (or >otherwise in the visib

Re: [mailop] Mail Transfer Agent Alternatives

I appreciate that Dave - which is why most people build recurring model businesses. However…I was presented a bill for the retroactive support that would have been 3X what the cost of a license was. On February 6, 2018 at 5:11:46 PM, Dave Warren via mailop (mailop@mailop.org) wrote: On 2018-

Re: [mailop] Mail Transfer Agent Alternatives

On 2018-02-05 10:27, Marc Goldman via mailop wrote: I received an email telling me I would need to pay RETROACTIVELY for the years I did NOT receive support in order to upgrade. Has anyone ever heard of a policy like that? What is cheaper, paying retroactively or buying a new license? At $DA

Re: [mailop] Spam originating from Office 365

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 03:00 +, Shane Clay via mailop wrote: > For our customers, the bulk majority of spam they actually receive > (over 90% of whats delivered and more than 40% of whats blocked) now > days comes from Office 365. Do others see th

Re: [mailop] Heads Up

On 2018-02-02 15:18, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Charles McKean wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: On Sat, 2018-01-20 at 11:14 +1100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: One can only conclude, they either have a leak in their API, or they altered the permissions to giv

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

On 2018-02-02 10:47, Chris wrote: On Fri, 02 Feb 2018 16:52:16 + Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 17:26 +0100, Chris wrote: I'm a bit surprised, that on a small mail server, 77 % of the rejected mails are rejected because of invalid recipient adresses. 22 % because of

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

On 2018-02-06 10:12, Anne P. Mitchell Esq. wrote: Also URLs in mail headers, which is perhaps reasonable, except that ...many ESPs now put unsub URLs in the headers. Are the results any more harmful than the same unsub URL in the foot (or otherwise in the visible body of the message)?

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

SpamCop usually redacts all these with an internal SpamCop address. But still, full headers with redaction is better than no evidence at all. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

> > Also URLs in mail headers, which is perhaps reasonable, except that ...many ESPs now put unsub URLs in the headers. Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) Legislative Consultant CEO/President, Institute for Social

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

Hello, On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 08:28:11AM -0800, Michael Peddemors wrote: > Want to hit me offline, notice that SpamCop considers URL's in 550 errors as > 'spamvertizing' Also URLs in mail headers, which is perhaps reasonable, except that we host a DNSBL that is occasionally used by SpamAssassin

[mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

Want to hit me offline, notice that SpamCop considers URL's in 550 errors as 'spamvertizing' -- "Catch the Magic of Linux..." Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc. Visit us at http://www.linuxmagic.com @linuxm