On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 19:31, Michael Peddemors wrote:
> On 18-06-08 09:14 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote:
> > [...]
> > In fact I still have to understand how spam reports and false positive
> > reports are collected in the whole plesk world (I guess you know what
> > I'm talking about): [...]
>
> Well
On 18-06-08 09:14 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 17:53, Michael Peddemors wrote:
[...]
And while using that as feedback might seem the logical conclusion, in
the real world we still see more feedback reports from legitimate email
the customer should have wanted, vs emails tagg
On 6/8/2018 11:50 AM, Michael Peddemors wrote:
It is sometimes important to point out that the email marketing is a
multi-billion dollar business.. The spam protection and RBL operators
get very little money if any in comparison..
I was reading an ebook on marketing this past week - mistakenly
On 6/8/2018 12:02 PM, David Hofstee wrote:
Earlier you stated that larger setups depended on having blacklists at
the gate to keep processing manageable but which results in less
weighed filtering. [see #5]
yes, but I wasn't referring to ALL blacklists - just a handful of the
most effective a
On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 17:53, Michael Peddemors wrote:
> [...]
> And while using that as feedback might seem the logical conclusion, in
> the real world we still see more feedback reports from legitimate email
> the customer should have wanted, vs emails tagged as spam that are spam.
Well, this is
> (1) First, I "eat my own dogfood", ...
Yes, that was clear.
> (2) A large percentage of invaluement subscribers use SpamAssassin
So this should work somewhat. If you have the capacity to let everything be
processed by the SA content filter. Earlier you stated that larger setups
depended on havi
On 18-06-08 08:21 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote:
If you really think that rejecting email from senders that want to
optimize their costs is a good strategy
Well, IPv6 is simply a way to make email sending cheaper. So not
supporting Ipv6 is an effective way to dump cheap sending.
I guess anyone w
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On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 17:21 +0200, Stefano Bagnara wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 16:47, Jim Popovitch via mailop org> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 10:27 -0400, Rob McEwen wrote:
> > > there has to be some justified level of "collateral damage"
On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 16:47, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 10:27 -0400, Rob McEwen wrote:
> > there has to be some justified level of "collateral damage" these
> > days, due to the very high frequency of hijacked accounts, hijacked
> > websites, and spamming ESP customers
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On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 10:27 -0400, Rob McEwen wrote:
> there has to be some justified level of "collateral damage" these
> days, due to the very high frequency of hijacked accounts, hijacked
> websites, and spamming ESP customers (from ESP that are o
On 6/8/2018 5:49 AM, David Hofstee wrote:
> ... score of the sending-IP, which is similar to what you've
described, correct?
Correct.
So you have these mechanisms in place. But your customers, who get
access to the invaluement RBL, do not. Am I correct? If I am,
it still results in the concl
On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 13:57, David Hofstee wrote:
> Hi Stefano,
>
> The only problem I see with Cloudmark is that they are not just a reputation
> provider, but a spamfilter provider with access to all the data. Which has
> been acquired by Proofpoint.
Well it is a mix of reputation and filter.
Hi Stefano,
The only problem I see with Cloudmark is that they are not just a
reputation provider, but a spamfilter provider with access to all the data.
Which has been acquired by Proofpoint.
I'm asking myself the question if the fingerprints they collect are GDPR
proof (although Jaren may comme
On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 at 11:53, David Hofstee wrote:
> [...]
> I also think that there is space for a reputation provider which can:
> - Identify more than just IP addresses and domains from an email.
This is what CloudMark Authority does about this, but you enable a new
set of issues that have been
Hi Rob,
> ... score of the sending-IP, which is similar to what you've described,
correct?
Correct.
So you have these mechanisms in place. But your customers, who get access
to the invaluement RBL, do not. Am I correct? If I am, it still results in
the conclusion that blacklists are not sufficie
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