Re: [mailop] Bell Sympatico contact

2019-09-25 Thread J Doe via mailop
> On Sep 26, 2019, at 12:13 AM, Matt Vernhout wrote: > > I sent a note to my contact at Bell about this. They might reach out for more > info if they need it. > > ~ > Matt Hi Matt, Thanks! I’ll pass along the DNS name of the MTA as well as my log data (date, time, etc.). - J

Re: [mailop] Bell Sympatico contact

2019-09-25 Thread Matt Vernhout via mailop
I sent a note to my contact at Bell about this. They might reach out for more info if they need it. ~ Matt > On Sep 25, 2019, at 18:54, J Doe via mailop wrote: > >  >> On Sep 25, 2019, at 2:24 PM, J Doe via mailop wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Is there a representative from Bell / Sympatico

Re: [mailop] Bell Sympatico contact

2019-09-25 Thread J Doe via mailop
> On Sep 25, 2019, at 2:24 PM, J Doe via mailop wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there a representative from Bell / Sympatico (Canada), on this list ? > > Thanks, > > - J To add some context: Is there a representative on this list from Bell / Sympatico that can help me reach the postmaster(s) for

Re: [mailop] Gmail - Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported

2019-09-25 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 1:23 PM Bill Cole via mailop wrote: > On 25 Sep 2019, at 5:18, Simon Lyall via mailop wrote: > > > Just had a bunch of people at a domain get unsubscribed from this > > list. > > Something is very wrong there... > > 4xx failures, even persistent ones that ultimately fail

Re: [mailop] Gmail - Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported

2019-09-25 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
We also heavily debated supporting PRDR, even though it never really went anywhere, as a way to handle that case, but even then you end up making things even more complicated by having to evaluate against multiple domain rules, probably in parallel, which would have meant rearchitecting the whole

Re: [mailop] Gmail - Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported

2019-09-25 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 25 Sep 2019, at 5:18, Simon Lyall via mailop wrote: Just had a bunch of people at a domain get unsubscribed from this list. Something is very wrong there... 4xx failures, even persistent ones that ultimately fail the message for queue timeout, should not cause an instant unsub from one

Re: [mailop] Gmail - Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported {dkim-fail}

2019-09-25 Thread Ned Freed via mailop
> I don't quite get this. Your outbound MTA is grouping separate domains > together into one queue based on MX? There are various ways to do it, but the basic idea is to reuse connections and even transactions based on different domains translating to a common set of MXes, for some defintion of

Re: [mailop] Gmail - Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported

2019-09-25 Thread Phil Pennock via mailop
On 2019-09-25 at 21:18 +1200, Simon Lyall via mailop wrote: > Just had a bunch of people at a domain get unsubscribed from this list. > Appears to be some weird Google rule (which probably made sense with they > were not the MX for 30% of all active domains) > > Any chance of them fixing it (or

Re: [mailop] Gmail - Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported

2019-09-25 Thread Luis E. Muñoz via mailop
On 25 Sep 2019, at 2:18, Simon Lyall via mailop wrote: Just had a bunch of people at a domain get unsubscribed from this list. Appears to be some weird Google rule (which probably made sense with they were not the MX for 30% of all active domains) I've seen similar behavior for large ISPs,

Re: [mailop] Gmail - Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported

2019-09-25 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
We've had that rule for probably 10y or so at this point, as to why, blame SMTP for rcpt and data being separate. GSuite domains can define rules on what they will/won't accept, and in order to deny such messages in the smtp transaction and not create backscatter by bouncing them later, we have

[mailop] Bell Sympatico contact

2019-09-25 Thread J Doe via mailop
Hi, Is there a representative from Bell / Sympatico (Canada), on this list ? Thanks, - J ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] Gmail - Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported

2019-09-25 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
I don't quite get this. Your outbound MTA is grouping separate domains together into one queue based on MX? Or is it trying to relay some other mail through Google when at least one recipient is hosted on a Google MX? Cheers, Al Iverson On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 4:27 AM Simon Lyall via mailop

[mailop] Microsoft Sender Support Request form is down

2019-09-25 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
This form seems to be erroring out: https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866 Multiple folks seeing it here. Others, are you seeing it too? Microsoft, heads up. Getting this error upon submission: We're sorry, but something went wrong on our end. Please try again later Cheers, Al Iverson

[mailop] Gmail - Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported

2019-09-25 Thread Simon Lyall via mailop
Just had a bunch of people at a domain get unsubscribed from this list. Appears to be some weird Google rule (which probably made sense with they were not the MX for 30% of all active domains) Any chance of them fixing it (or failing that a quick work-around for mailman)? . It looks like