Re: [mailop] So how do you actually manage to send mails to outlook/hotmail?

Hi Marcus I had a similar issue some time ago. Google uses some 'Domain Reputation' Woodoo. I used to operate an automated spam feedback loop from my spamtrap, under a specific hostname in my domain. One only used for those reports. Unfortunately, it looks like some 'abuse contact addresses' as

[mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

According to Юлия П. in Abuse Team Mail.ru, they'll not change their new unannounced policy: messages from mailing lists (at groups.io) from authors @yandex.ru are rejected by mail.ru though DMARC for yandex.ru is p=none. Thus, mail.ru became unusable for all people who participate in discussion m

[mailop] proofpoint.com Contact

Hey, is an Administrator from proofpoint.com listening here? Please contact me! Thanks. Mit freundlichen Grüßen *Patrick Spittelmeister* Systemadministration [image: reventix GmbH - einfach. clever. verbunden.] ✉ spittelmeis...@reventix.de ✆ +49.(0)3

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

My understanding is that they don't accept unauthenticated messages, not just limited to a DMARC policy. So, if your mailing list is sending messages with yandex.ru in the 5322.From (visible From) address but the messages are not DKIM signed using yandex.ru as the signing domain and the 5321.F

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

Dnia 12.07.2021 o godz. 10:46:26 Ken O'Driscoll via mailop pisze: > > My understanding is that they don't accept unauthenticated messages, not > just limited to a DMARC policy. > > So, if your mailing list is sending messages with yandex.ru in the > 5322.From (visible From) address but the messag

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

> My guess is that the solution is to have your mailing list software > (groups.io) use the mailing list address in the 5322.From > (like how this list works) No, I'll tell list members to ditch mail.ru and use Gmail or @yandex.ru instead (with more reasonable policies). Unless the mail.ru admin

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 6:33 AM Lena--- via mailop wrote: > > > My guess is that the solution is to have your mailing list software > > (groups.io) use the mailing list address in the 5322.From > > (like how this list works) > > No, I'll tell list members to ditch mail.ru > and use Gmail or @yande

Re: [mailop] Contact for Zoom webinar spam sent via Sendgrid (ugh)

That isn't one of the accounts reported by Micahel. However, it is being investigated. On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 8:12 AM Carl Byington via mailop wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 09:14 -0700, Luke via mailop wrote: > > Both of the accounts report

Re: [mailop] So how do you actually manage to send mails to outlook/hotmail?

On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 00:11 +0200, Marcus Hoffmann via mailop wrote: > > Someone suggested routing emails to MS and google domains through Amazon > SES. Would that actually make things better? I'd suggest a more end-user friendly relay, like Duocircle or Dynu's relay service, who don't mess with

Re: [mailop] So how do you actually manage to send mails to outlook/hotmail?

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 07:39:31PM +0200, Marcus Hoffmann via mailop wrote: > for context, I run a small mailserver, used by mainly me and a couple of > friends and famely. I also run a few webservices which sometimes send > transactional emails to people who sign up there. (Mainly a weblate instan

Re: [mailop] So how do you actually manage to send mails to outlook/hotmail?

Am 11.07.21 um 19:39 schrieb Marcus Hoffmann via mailop: ... > > Original sending IP: 176.9.145.28 > New sender: 5.45.96.14 As others have already noted, Hetzner has a somewhat bad reputation. From my experience, this may somewhat be explained by their intransparent and subjectively ineffective

Re: [mailop] So how do you actually manage to send mails to outlook/hotmail?

Marcus, I'd be willing to offer up my server for use as an SMTP relay, after getting a bit of understanding of the current mail stream and its reputation. I'm running a server doing very similar things to yours, and I generally don't have any Microsoft issues (today, anyway). Combining good mail st

Re: [mailop] proofpoint.com Contact

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 4:42 AM Patrick Spittelmeister via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Hey, is an Administrator from proofpoint.com listening here? Please > contact me! Thanks. > Sent a note to Patrick off list. --Jaren ___ mailop mailing list

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

Hi Lena, On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 2:27 AM Lena--- via mailop wrote: > According to Юлия П. in Abuse Team Mail.ru, > they'll not change their new unannounced policy: > messages from mailing lists (at groups.io) from authors @yandex.ru > are rejected by mail.ru though DMARC for yandex.ru is p=none.

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 5:11 AM Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 6:33 AM Lena--- via mailop > wrote: > > > > > My guess is that the solution is to have your mailing list software > > > (groups.io) use the mailing list address in the 5322.From > > > (like how this list works

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

On 12/07/2021 22:09, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: have to conform to the whims of others. Never. They are our servers, so why let anyone dictate how we should run them. But I expect this attitude from some here, the same attitude some here use when claiming gmail is too big to block, again

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 5:04 PM Noel Butler via mailop wrote: > On 12/07/2021 22:09, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > > > > have to conform to the whims of others. > > > Never. They are our servers, so why let anyone dictate how we should run > them. > > But I expect this attitude from some here, t

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 2:41 PM Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote: > Hi Lena, > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 2:27 AM Lena--- via mailop > wrote: > >> According to Юлия П. in Abuse Team Mail.ru, >> they'll not change their new unannounced policy: >> messages from mailing lists (at groups.io) from autho

Re: [mailop] mail.ru broke mailing lists

On 12/07/2021 14:07, Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote: > For others here running mailing lists that pay attention to DMARC > settings, do you treat p=none differently than reject/quarantine? I'm involved with a privacy-focused relay service. We "munge" (rewrite the RFC5322.From to use our own doma