On Mon, 2022-04-18 at 06:16 +0200, Paul Vixie via mailop wrote:
> the original RBL (at MAPS, this was) was an
> attempt (by me, and then by others) to "keep the noise down so that
> e-mail is usable". you should be able to verify from where you sit
> that (a) we did not achieve that goal, (b) we
Chase Vance via mailop wrote on 2022-04-18 19:02:
Hello All,
I am having a issue with one of our customers getting his mail blocked
by google and he is getting the below message back in return. Is this
something that is getting blocked because of our IP or is it with his
message or
Hello,
This is my first reply/post ever, I hope it helps.
A way to reproduce would be to use your own gmail address to send email to your
server, block your email address in the incoming rules of the server while
assigning a 5xx code to it, send the message from gmail and wait for a bounce
i remember when folks were complaining to MAPS that AOL was bouncing
inbound e-mail with an SMTP error code showing a MAPS.VIX.COM URL.
i remember replying that AOL was free to bounce whatever they wanted for
whatever reason they chose, and coined "their network, their rules."
i don't
On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 12:17:25 -0400, Bill Cole via mailop
wrote:
>Should Google be better about noticing when problems go away? Maybe. Should IP
>addresses be made permanently useless for email because one well-intentioned
>sysadmin didn't recognize a problem for long enough that Google
That's fun. Thanks.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Laura Atkins"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: "mailop"
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 4:04:10 PM
Subject: Re: [mailop] Office 365
Content filters on the final destination domain rejecting the mail in a way
that isn’t a permanent failure.
Laura
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 18, 2022, at 9:49 PM, Mike Hammett via mailop
> wrote:
>
>
> Reported error: 554 5.4.14 Hop count exceeded - possible mail loop
> ATTR34
Reported error: 554 5.4.14 Hop count exceeded - possible mail loop ATTR34
[BN1NAM02FT041.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com]
DSN generated by: CH2PR18MB3414.namprd18.prod.outlook.com
I send an email from the same environment (my Zimbra server) to a forwarding
account in that
On 2022-04-18 at 13:32:07 UTC-0400 (Mon, 18 Apr 2022 12:32:07 -0500)
Larry M. Smith via mailop
is rumored to have said:
> Sorry, late to the game...
>
> On 4/17/2022, John Levine via mailop wrote:
>> It appears that Tobias Fiebig via mailop said:
If your friends somehow believe that Gmail
Sorry, late to the game...
On 4/17/2022, John Levine via mailop wrote:
It appears that Tobias Fiebig via mailop said:
If your friends somehow believe that Gmail is the only mail provider in the
world I suppose I am sorry for them but I don't understand why that is anyone
else's problem.
Hello All,
I am having a issue with one of our customers getting his mail blocked by
google and he is getting the below message back in return. Is this something
that is getting blocked because of our IP or is it with his message or
something else. The messages he is sending contain
On 2022-04-17 at 23:20:26 UTC-0400 (Mon, 18 Apr 2022 05:20:26 +0200)
Paul Vixie via mailop
is rumored to have said:
> Bill Cole via mailop wrote on 2022-04-17 22:56:
>> ...
>>
>> Reasonableness is case-specific Or "subjective" if you prefer...
>
> it is not.
I guess we'll have to set that
Actually, it's not a strict block, but we temp reject first, and switch to
accept or reject with a mitigation web form address. So, don't let our
policy discourage you!
Cheers,
Hans-Martin
Am 18. April 2022 13:15:09 schrieb wilson via mailop :
I am sorry that one small operator has noticed
I am sorry that one small operator has noticed me by PM that he does
block email based on TLDs such as this one I am using.
Laura Atkins via mailop wrote:
I don’t believe folks are blocking based on TLDs. I also recommend that
senders stick to the more common and ’standard’ TLDs. I don’t
Dňa 18. apríla 2022 8:36:46 UTC používateľ Laura Atkins via mailop
napísal:
>
>I have heard a lot of folks running systems (usually midsize or small) say
>they block all ‘weird’ TLDs on sight. I tend to recommend to clients that they
>stick with the standard ones. I’m not sure how extensive
People are forced to get a Gmail account and strongly encouraged to
use it (for example, by defaults and preinstalled apps) when they
get an Android phone
--
- End message from Vittorio Bertola via mailop -
*Completely* and objectively not true.
I've run Android phones for
> On 17 Apr 2022, at 23:57, wilson via mailop wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> some people told me not to use .xyz domain b/c it's more spammers liked.
> may I ask if the big ESP or the open antispam policies have the preference on
> domains? such as com/net/org is preferred, but xyz/top/pro is not.
> On 18 Apr 2022, at 08:35, Vittorio Bertola via mailop
> wrote:
>
>
>> Il 15/04/2022 16:43 Laura Atkins via mailop ha scritto:
>>
>> All of the complaints I’ve seen about google track back to: the person was
>> either actively sending spam (possibly unknowingly, but that doesn’t exactly
> Il 15/04/2022 17:55 Graeme Fowler via mailop ha scritto:
>
> Obviously we’ve had a great deal of discussion of OVH over the years, most of
> which wasn’t favourable. YMMV, obviously.
OVH is the second biggest hoster in Europe.
Unless we want to assume that Europe is a continent of
> Il 15/04/2022 16:43 Laura Atkins via mailop ha scritto:
>
>
>
> All of the complaints I’ve seen about google track back to: the person was
> either actively sending spam (possibly unknowingly, but that doesn’t exactly
> reflect well on the sender) or they’re using a free service that is
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