Re: [mailop] United Airlines / mileageplus DNS/rDNS mismatch issue

2023-05-09 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2023-05-09 at 16:17:57 UTC-0400 (Tue, 9 May 2023 20:17:57 +) Gellner, Oliver via mailop is rumored to have said: I’d be surprised if there are many members on this list whose systems do not penalize connections from IP addresses without a fully confirmed reverse DNS entry one way or the

Re: [mailop] AT&T has eliminated their DNSBL team?

2023-05-09 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
Just to close this loop: I resent my report this evening and got an autoreply as normal, so I guess AT&T hasn't gone Twitter on us... On 2023-05-06 at 16:53:58 UTC-0400 (Sat, 06 May 2023 16:53:58 -0400) Bill Cole via mailop is rumored to have said: For unknown reasons, I got one of these to

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: PSL: SOA record per subdomain required?!

2023-05-09 Thread Tobias Fiebig via mailop
Heho, On Tue, 2023-05-09 at 20:20 -0400, John Levine wrote: > ... > There are millions of domains on the Internet and only a few thousand > in the PSL, so this is not a problem that most people need to worry > about. I am actually rather certain that 'not most people' approximately evaluates to tw

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: PSL: SOA record per subdomain required?!

2023-05-09 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Tobias Fiebig via mailop said: >Talking to a colleague about this; What you could do is move your >current DNS setup behind powerdns frontends with a remote backend: > >https://doc.powerdns.com/authoritative/backends/remote.html >https://github.com/PowerDNS/pdns/blob/master/modules

Re: [mailop] Yahoo: SOA record per subdomain required?!

2023-05-09 Thread Ken Peng via mailop
May 10, 2023 at 4:32 AM, "Gellner, Oliver via mailop" wrote: > > > > $ dig staff.sina.com.cn mx +short > > > > > > > 10 staffmx.sina.com.cn. > > > > > > > 10 staffmx1.sina.com.cn. > > > sina.com.cn does have a SOA record. Without creating a DNS zone, the MX > records could not have been

Re: [mailop] United Airlines / mileageplus DNS/rDNS mismatch issue

2023-05-09 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> I think we have to disagree here. The PTR naming is set via > SendGrid. It doesn't NEED to be the same as the A record. This is > for those MTA's that do forward/reverse matching, which isn't always > successful. > > Yes, doing that for a IPv6 email address to satisfy Google, go ahead. > > But

Re: [mailop] [External] Re: United Airlines / mileageplus DNS/rDNS mismatch issue

2023-05-09 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
On 5/9/2023 4:17 PM, Gellner, Oliver via mailop wrote: I’d be surprised if there are many members on this list whose systems do not penalize connections from IP addresses without a fully confirmed reverse DNS entry one way or the other. Maybe I‘m wrong, but then I‘d like to hear from them. T

Re: [mailop] Yahoo: SOA record per subdomain required?!

2023-05-09 Thread Gellner, Oliver via mailop
On 09.05.2023 at 02:11 Ken Peng via mailop wrote: May 9, 2023 at 4:07 AM, "Gellner, Oliver via mailop" wrote: If a receiver only accepts emails from sender addressed domains for which MX or A records exist (such checks are performed by many receiving servers), it means a sender has to 1. set

Re: [mailop] United Airlines / mileageplus DNS/rDNS mismatch issue

2023-05-09 Thread Gellner, Oliver via mailop
> On 09.05.2023 at 20:46 Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: > > But nothing wrong with sending an email from a PTR with a name, that doens't > have the FQDN forward/reverse matched. > > As long as there is a URL associated with the domain name. > > eg. http://mileageplus.com (Redirect to UA site

Re: [mailop] United Airlines / mileageplus DNS/rDNS mismatch issue

2023-05-09 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Yeah.. always take stats with a grain of salt.. Besides, we know that spammers adopt these things faster than real companies.. hehehe.. But the ones that don't have it (fcRdns) are often the emails that people scream the most about missing. oaky, going back to looking at the threat research

Re: [mailop] United Airlines / mileageplus DNS/rDNS mismatch issue

2023-05-09 Thread Tobias Fiebig via mailop
Heho, hm, not sure. Looking at the 'email-security-scans.org' data, fcrdns is at ~95.5% of senders. For comparison: DKIM: ~55.2% SPF & Valid: ~91.0% TLS: ~96.0% Greylisting (attempting to resend): ~97.4% IPv4: ~97.9% IPv6 (sending): 56.2% IPv6 (sending+auth DNS+rec DNS): ~35.7% So even though th

Re: [mailop] United Airlines / mileageplus DNS/rDNS mismatch issue

2023-05-09 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Hi Laura, I think we have to disagree here. The PTR naming is set via SendGrid. It doesn't NEED to be the same as the A record. This is for those MTA's that do forward/reverse matching, which isn't always successful. Yes, doing that for a IPv6 email address to satisfy Google, go ahead. But

Re: [mailop] United Airlines / mileageplus DNS/rDNS mismatch issue

2023-05-09 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
That’s a Sendgrid IP, they likely told UA to put in a DNS record, but UA never did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ n > On 9 May 2023, at 18:01, Stephen Frost via mailop wrote: > > Greetings, > > I'm getting some inbound email attempts that I believe are legitimate > from United Airlines that are being rejected due

[mailop] United Airlines / mileageplus DNS/rDNS mismatch issue

2023-05-09 Thread Stephen Frost via mailop
Greetings, I'm getting some inbound email attempts that I believe are legitimate from United Airlines that are being rejected due to: May 9 12:55:38 tamriel postfix/smtpd[1221960]: warning: hostname o1.email.smallbusiness.mileageplus.com does not resolve to address 50.31.61.242 Tracking this b

Re: [mailop] Any Postmasters or abuse team from Amazon AWS on here?

2023-05-09 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
Seems like sending as yahoo.com from SES is going to have very poor deliverability given yahoo.com has a DMARC policy of reject. It'd be good to nudge Amazon to block certain domains, sure, but even if they don't, I don't see how somebody's going to have much spam success via that path. TL;DR who c

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-09 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 8.05.2023 o godz. 23:45:54 Dan Mahoney via mailop pisze: > > That’s not “leads”, that’s spam, plain and simple. Maybe — maybe when > your list of leads comes from an entire company you’ve purchased, this > might make sense, but if it’s a third party purchase, there’s literally no > business

Re: [mailop] Yahoo: SOA record per subdomain required?!

2023-05-09 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG via mailop
Ken Peng via mailop writes: > May 9, 2023 at 4:07 AM, "Gellner, Oliver via mailop" > wrote: > > >> >> If a receiver only accepts emails from sender addressed domains for which MX >> or A records exist (such checks are performed by many receiving servers), it >> means a sender has to 1. set up

Re: [mailop] Yahoo: SOA record per subdomain required?!

2023-05-09 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop
On Mon 08/May/2023 00:51:47 +0200 Slavko via mailop wrote: The PSL is something strange, introduced by DMARC which defines "organizational domain", which seems to be not as clear as DMARC's authors think. This PSL is not standardized and is maintained by Mozilla, which is only as volunteer to do

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: PSL: SOA record per subdomain required?!

2023-05-09 Thread Tobias Fiebig via mailop
On Tue, 2023-05-09 at 10:19 +0200, Stefano Bagnara via mailop wrote: > ... > > #1 host -t soa e.comune.bardolino.vr.it > e.comune.bardolino.vr.it is an alias for app.mailvox.it. > ... > > I guess it is not the missing SOA at #2 because all of our senders > share that step and most of them show no

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: PSL: SOA record per subdomain required?!

2023-05-09 Thread Stefano Bagnara via mailop
On Tue, 9 May 2023 at 04:10, John Levine wrote: > It appears that Stefano Bagnara via mailop said: > >Sounds like our standard senders using @e.example.com domain in their > >RFC5321 are able to deliver to Yahoo while italian municipalities > >using, e.g., @e.comune.bardolino.vr.it (so 2 more le