[mailop] Anyone from ATT around?

2024-03-26 Thread Michael Ellis via mailop
Block on 66.211.100.86 but no answers though the other ISPs have ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

[mailop] Amazon SES [Was: is warming IPs still necessary?]

2024-03-26 Thread Ken Johnson via mailop
Here, I have seen a gradual improvement in the quality of mail (now seeing a few legitimate users) coming from Amazon SES (based on headers containing amazonses.com), and now only add +3 in our local SpamAssassin filters. Of course, other people's experience is certain to be different from ours

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
While I agree with your points Laura (and generally anything you have to say), I felt this right here warranted a secondary point worth making public to the mailing list: It’s more necessary - you need to warm up both your IP and your domain AND the combination of IP and domain addresses. It

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Brotman, Alex via mailop
I'm not on the sending side, but I will note there are several ESPs running out of EC2. Some seem to use their own IP ranges, some do not. I think if you're coming from an IP range you don't have direct control over (i.e., cloud space), you must take extra precaution to warm the IPs ( and doma

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Tim Starr via mailop
Some AWS IPs may have Good GPT rep, but I just found some for a client that were either Low or Bad. -Tim On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 4:34 AM Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: > AWS has good IP reputation - I’ve got one client sending <500K a month and > one sending >20M a day off AWS and their IP rep

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:40 PM Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop wrote: > > * Laura Atkins via mailop [2024-03-26 09:21+] > >> On 25 Mar 2024, at 22:58, Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop > >> wrote: > >> > >> We are planning to move the system that hosts our email > >> discussion lists from its old ho

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop
* Mark Fletcher [2024-03-25 20:38-0700] On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: We are planning to move the system that hosts our email discussion lists from its old home where it has been for decades to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does about 15k

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop
* Laura Atkins via mailop [2024-03-26 09:21+] On 25 Mar 2024, at 22:58, Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop wrote: We are planning to move the system that hosts our email discussion lists from its old home where it has been for decades to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does about 15k deliveries pe

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
+1 to what Laura says. I run a couple of EC2-hosted mail servers but I smarthost their mail out through another server, because, if you can get Amazon to unblock port 25 for you, people are still probably going to reject your mail far and wide. The EC2 IP ranges are likely to be treated unkin

[mailop] Anyone from NORD VPN around?

2024-03-26 Thread Tara Natanson via mailop
Hello folks, Have a really odd issue and was hoping to find someone from NORD here. It appears people can't access our links (including unsubscribe) while on the NORD VPN. If anyone could put me in touch I would be forever grateful. Cheers, Tara Natanson Constant Contact

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
I made sure our template included the unsubscribe in the correct spot. I also made sure that it was the same font size as the rest of the message so that it is not hidden. I have seen many templates where the unsubscribe and other areas are way smaller than the rest of the email. I don’t see th

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Chris Adams via mailop
Once upon a time, Alexander Huynh said: > Good news is there's a draft RFC presented at IETF 119 to tackle this: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dweekly-wrong-recipient/ Good luck on the problem senders implementing it... if they cared, they'd already have something. I also get money t

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Alexander Huynh via mailop
On Mar 26, 2024, at 09:14, Chris Adams via mailop wrote: I recently started getting debt collection emails [...] And there's no "unsubscribe" or "this is not me"... Good news is there's a draft RFC presented at IETF 119 to tackle this: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dweekly-wrong-recip

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
They have an internal compliance team to make sure that all the rules are followed. https://www.consumerfinance.gov/rules-policy/regulations/1006/6/#d-3-i I work with them to the best I can on the above rules. Thanks, Michael Irvine Original message From: Brielle via mai

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Chris Adams via mailop
Once upon a time, Brielle said: > E-mail addresses aren't guaranteed to actually belong to the person you think > you are sending to. Yep - I recently started getting debt collection emails to a Gmail I don't give out (only used for Google stuff). I've had the Gmail account since the beta days,

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Niels Dettenbach via mailop
Am Dienstag, 26. März 2024, 10:21:23 CET schrieb Laura Atkins via mailop: > Don’t use EC2 for mail. Use SES. yes, but by my experience, AWS today has a overall poor reputation within the internet email sphere. just my .02$ niels. -- --- Niels Dettenbach Syndicat IT & Internet https://www.

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
AWS has good IP reputation - I’ve got one client sending <500K a month and one sending >20M a day off AWS and their IP rep at google is all in the green. Mailgun/Sinch are one a lot of my clients are moving to, as well. There’s also whatever-they’re-called-now-but-used-to-be-Sparkpost. I’m rea

Re: [mailop] is warming IPs still necessary?

2024-03-26 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 25 Mar 2024, at 22:58, Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop > wrote: > > We are planning to move the system that hosts our email discussion lists from > its old home where it has been for decades to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does > about 15k deliveries per day, most of which go to gmail or goog

Re: [mailop] Debt Collection Client Email Servers

2024-03-26 Thread Brielle via mailop
Out of curiosity, how are your clients going to prevent sharing of information protected under the FDCPA with third parties?E-mail addresses aren't guaranteed to actually belong to the person you think you are sending to.-- Brie(She/they)The Summit Open Source Development Grouphttps://sosdg.org(Sen