Dňa 7. marca 2024 20:01:09 UTC používateľ Yuval Levy via mailop
napísal:
>Have you considered the opposite approach? there must be somewhere a list of
>the blocks used by conventional alphabets/glyphs. Assign negative score if
>there is at least one character NOT WITHIN that fairly static pre
Dnia 7.03.2024 o godz. 13:12:27 Julian Bradfield via mailop pisze:
>
> If you have a mail client that is so badly written that it crashes
> when it encounters a missing character in a font, you need to replace
> or fix the mail client, or file a bug report against the library
> causing the proble
[removed my annoying emojis from subject and sender]
On 2024-03-07 13:56, Slavko via mailop wrote:
Not to block nor filter them, but to add some score into message.
I abandon it as too hard to maintain (for me), as emoji (graphics)
are not in one continuous block of code points
Have you consid
Dňa 7. marca 2024 14:22:21 UTC používateľ "Yuval Levy ✅ via mailop"
napísal:
>My most important reason to "filter" emojis in email addresses and subject
>lines would be to assign them higher spammyness scores in rspamd or
>SpamAssassin. Are there already such rules? If not, how do I add them
On 2024-03-07 07:30, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
Emoji is such a stupid thing.
You are entitled to your opinion, which I do not dislike. HOWEVER,
let's focus on facts, not on opinions, because emojis add more than
annoyances.
Specifically to mailop, malicious actors are known to ad
On 2024-03-06 at 18:51:10 UTC-0500 (Wed, 6 Mar 2024 23:51:10 +
(GMT))
Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
is rumored to have said:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, John Levine via mailop wrote:
Right. I am aware of communities of EAI mail users in India and
Thailand,
but not anywhere else. You might expe
Am 07.03.24 um 13:30 schrieb Sebastian Nielsen via mailop:
Exactly, but when the mail client tries to display the crap in the name field, it causes it to crash.
So, it's an RCE (Remote Crash Exploit, hehe). Seriously: If external
data crashes your software, you have a huge security problem.
On 2024-03-07 20:30:53 (+0800), Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
Emoji is such a stupid thing. So that’s why I kinda need to delete
all emoji, by parsing the utf8 string and then deleting everything
that is emoji. Not normal UTF8 characters, as they can can be
displayed (like Chinese charact
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 01:30:53PM +0100, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
> when the mail client tries to display the crap in the name field,
> it causes it to crash. Guess it tries to render Emoji in a field
> that is not designed to accept Emoji, thus it just silentcrash
> into desktop.
Dňa 7. marca 2024 12:18:36 UTC používateľ Alessandro Vesely via mailop
napísal:
>On 06/03/2024 20:18, Slavko via mailop wrote:
>> Dňa 6. marca 2024 18:13:34 UTC používateľ Bill Cole via mailop
>> napísal:
>>
>>> support for SMTPUTF8 *in MTAs operating as MXs* is not widespread enough to
>>> b
On 2024-03-07, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
> Exactly, but when the mail client tries to display the crap in the name
> field, it causes it to crash. Guess it tries to render Emoji in a field that
> is not designed to accept Emoji, thus it just silentcrash into desktop.
> So people can't
>>So it still contains only ASCII, until displayed.
Exactly, but when the mail client tries to display the crap in the name field,
it causes it to crash. Guess it tries to render Emoji in a field that is not
designed to accept Emoji, thus it just silentcrash into desktop.
So people can't access
On 06/03/2024 20:18, Slavko via mailop wrote:
Dňa 6. marca 2024 18:13:34 UTC používateľ Bill Cole via mailop
napísal:
support for SMTPUTF8 *in MTAs operating as MXs* is not widespread enough to be
useful
Only exim (+ Python and ClawsMail) is usable in that...
Courier-MTA + Thunderbird w
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 11:51:10PM +, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, John Levine via mailop wrote:
> > Everywhere else people use ASCII mail addresses, even though they are
> > often writing mail in non-ASCII character sets.
>
> I get plenty of non-ASCII charac
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, John Levine via mailop wrote:
Right. I am aware of communities of EAI mail users in India and Thailand,
but not anywhere else. You might expect EAI users in China, but nope,
for reasons I can explain if anyone cares.
Everywhere else people use ASCII mail addresses, even th
On 3/6/2024 10:13 AM, Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
support for SMTPUTF8 *in MTAs operating as MXs* is not widespread
enough to be useful except
Email has a long history of very poor compliance, coupled with recipient
demands that sender-side problems be dealt with using receiver-side
changes.
It appears that Bill Cole via mailop
said:
>> AFAIK, for most of the world is US-ASCII not enough, not only for
>> India or Thailand.
>
>Absolutely true. However, I believe that what John meant to point out is
>that support for SMTPUTF8 *in MTAs operating as MXs* is not widespread
>enough to be
Dňa 6. marca 2024 18:13:34 UTC používateľ Bill Cole via mailop
napísal:
>Absolutely true. However, I believe that what John meant to point out is that
>support for SMTPUTF8 *in MTAs operating as MXs* is not widespread enough to be
>useful except for mail to Indian and Thai addresses, because e
On 2024-03-06 at 12:30:30 UTC-0500 (Wed, 06 Mar 2024 17:30:30 +)
Slavko via mailop
is rumored to have said:
Dňa 6. marca 2024 15:52:47 UTC používateľ John Levine via mailop
napísal:
There's an extension called SMTPUTF8, informally known as EAI for
Email Address Internationalization, tha
Dňa 6. marca 2024 15:52:47 UTC používateľ John Levine via mailop
napísal:
>There's an extension called SMTPUTF8, informally known as EAI for
>Email Address Internationalization, that in principle allows any UTF-8
>in addresses, but unless you are sending mail to people in India or
>Thailand, you
On 04/03/2024 21:40, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
Im thinking to do same as I do when I filter emoji from subject lines,
but this will also filter out umlaits from people’s names so “André
Andersson” becomes “Andr Andersson” and “Recep Tayyip Erdoğan” would
become “Recep Tayyip Erdoan”
It appears that Sebastian Nielsen via mailop said:
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>
>Anyone that have a general algoritm to filter out emoji from sender
>addresses?
>
>How I do in regexp to identify emoji? (its such a stupid thing)..
Normal e-mail doesn't allow anything outside of ordinary ASCII in me
Am 04.03.24 um 22:40 schrieb Sebastian Nielsen via mailop:
Anyone that have a general algoritm to filter out emoji from sender addresses?
It's possible that the problem isn't specific to emojis but to any unicode code point in the supplementary planes (code
point values above U+). Applicat
You may need to do some more work to be more specific in what causes the
crashes, so that you can have a more targeted approach.
Ie, is this a case of the client not handling an EAI message (raw utf-8 in
the from header), is it specific to specific characters, is it specific to
the being in the "c
On 2024-03-05 05:40:46 (+0800), Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote:
Anyone that have a general algoritm to filter out emoji from sender
addresses?
How I do in regexp to identify emoji? (its such a stupid thing)..
Today's regular expression will not capture tomorrow's emoji. The nice
people w
Anyone that have a general algoritm to filter out emoji from sender
addresses?
How I do in regexp to identify emoji? (its such a stupid thing)..
A guy sent a email containing emoji in the name part of a email sender
address in MIME FROM (like: Name [EMOJI] ). This caused a
few email clients to cr
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