Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo

2010-12-09 Thread Thorsten Wilms
of what the desired characteristics are. Said assumptions may be vague and vary quite a bit, making a vote meaningless. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive

Re: Res: Res: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo Briefing

2010-11-28 Thread Thorsten Wilms
.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Work_Items Done. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this li

Re: Res: Res: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo Briefing

2010-11-25 Thread Thorsten Wilms
e briefing hasn't seen much discussion or any kind of approval, yet. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing

Re: Res: Res: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo Briefing

2010-11-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 05:11 -0800, Lucas Filho wrote: > So who might want to create a logo with the characteristics described in your > e-mail? We will see, eventually. Why do you ask? -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ --

Re: Res: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo Briefing

2010-11-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
is not the creation of the logo. The task is the creation of the guidelines that will be used to create the logo. Or that will at least be used to evaluate the current logo. Hence, this includes marketing considerations. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: h

[libreoffice-marketing] Logo Briefing

2010-11-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
briefing walks right into analysis and conception territory. I think it will be most useful as a shared starting point and measure, this way. Much of it should be useful for the entire visual/graphic/communication design. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software:

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Mission Statement ? [was: Briefing]

2010-11-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
alued, but every new opinion should be evaluated. (Kidding, I just took the noodles out) Thanks! -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lis

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Mission Statement ? [was: Briefing]

2010-11-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Nobody's paying attention or perhaps there are no objections and no additions to offer ... ;) Anyway, slightly tweaked again version now lives at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Mission -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- U

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Mission Statement ? [was: Briefing]

2010-11-23 Thread Thorsten Wilms
ation across projects * Interoperability and Standards * Meritocracy * Quality * Critical thinking * Noodles * Science and research * Education * Constructive feedback * The base assumption of good intentions of others * The long view * Always keeping the user in mind -- Thorsten Wilms thor

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Mission Statement ? [was: Briefing]

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
ODF is just the current solution for having an open, documented file format in wide use. As unlikely that might be to change, the mission statement should take the long view and be very stable. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- Unsub

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
esign/UX_Design > but I'd prefer > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Design > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UX_Design > with Category:Design I'd prefer the last, too. Even more with "Visual Identity" instead of "Visual Design". -- Thorsten Wi

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
esign, user experience design). > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Design/TheNameYouWant > > How does this sound? Long. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@li

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
esign, user experience design). > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Design/TheNameYouWant > > How does this sound? Long. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@li

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
, called Community) * Services (to outside the project) * Documentation * Infrastructure (contains website, similar to Services, but inside) * UX Design (solely for the product) A bit late for the lists, but the wiki is ductile, right? -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://th

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
orrent.org/? Especially when dealing with visual design, it is critical to get past simple "I like / I don't like it" reactions. As far as a kind of voting is required, I would try to ask something along the lines of: "In how far does the proposal meet the briefing/requiremen

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
deas > page? Sure, but shouldn't it be below wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design instead? /Design/Infrastructure, perhaps? -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Lis

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition

2010-11-20 Thread Thorsten Wilms
atutes have to say > about such forms of behavior). I will be perfectly willing to take > part in discussion that is measured and courteous in its tone and > content. :-) The implication here could be seen as insult. Putting lots of ;-) doesn't make your emails friendly when your tactic

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition

2010-11-20 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 20:21 +0800, David Nelson wrote: > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 20:13, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > This is getting really tiresome. > > Sorry, Thorsten. We'll all write to you for prior approval before > writing to the lists. :-D > There *were* actually

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition

2010-11-20 Thread Thorsten Wilms
s any uptake among the people reading this thread. What happened to your "To summarize: 'No - in any case, certainly not at this time. (...)'" from http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/msg01244.html ? This is getting really tiresome. -- Thorsten Wilms

Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Thorsten Wilms
f marketing material * Planning, executing and tracking marketing activities -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.li

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Thorsten Wilms
really don't need to worry about this leading to a design like it would be available today, already. I'm rather sure there is no open-source solution, yet. I'm not familiar with proprietary solutions that might exist, so no risk of blindly copying them. -- Thorsten Wilms thor

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-19 Thread Thorsten Wilms
gt; requests. Awesome, thanks. Let me know if something needs to be cleared up, or if you need design assistance. Otherwise just keep us informed about progress, please ;) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- E-mail to marketing+h...@li

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fleeing the paper airplane : )

2010-11-18 Thread Thorsten Wilms
t and/or the fact that it's a suite of applications. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lis

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-18 Thread Thorsten Wilms
used in * Has been branched at and to Allow branching. I would also mention merging, but that won't work in many cases. There will likely have to be a pointer to the main/official/trunk/head version. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Taking liberties with the logo - and such - again....

2010-11-17 Thread Thorsten Wilms
r cheap and as if the project lacked confidence. How about a pattern like in the corners of http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9MZR46ZEuS8/TOHR0kZ7PRI/Aow/sA-TNkKLX80/s1600/2010-11-07_LibreOffice_Branding_InitialBranding.svg-rect8404-4294967198-2.png ? -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Mission Statement ? [was: Briefing]

2010-11-17 Thread Thorsten Wilms
e aspect suggest lightness and bright colors. It’s an open project, welcoming contributors. This often leads to bullet points like "friendly" and "inviting". We may want to look for wide, open and round shapes and vibrant, but not agressive color. -- Thorsten W

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Mission Statement ? [was: Briefing]

2010-11-17 Thread Thorsten Wilms
could or should afford to write another Outlook/Evolution, for example. This asks for cooperation/interoperability/integration. I still wonder what would be common to a - word processor - spreadsheet - presentation app - drawing app - database app ? All but the database seem to be somewhat

[libreoffice-marketing] Briefing

2010-11-16 Thread Thorsten Wilms
l needs and goals being addressed. Seeing spreadsheets and relational database as solutions, can you define the problems they solve succinctly? How to rule out (given we really have/want to): - (full-featured) audio and video editing? - advanced animation features (think Flash, Synfig)? - advanced

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition

2010-11-15 Thread Thorsten Wilms
their availability and past work. Or, if you must, have a concept/drafting phase open for all. But instead of turning it into a contest, it should be a designer's job distributed on many shoulders. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpre

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Thoughts and drafts for logo-type

2010-11-14 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 00:46 +0100, Johannes Bausch wrote: > Maybe you should post your thoughts there. You can also add your drafts to > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas I will eventually, once I have something I'm really happy with. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil&#

[libreoffice-marketing] Thoughts and drafts for logo-type

2010-11-13 Thread Thorsten Wilms
lcoming contributors, so I looked for wide and round shapes. The design should be contemporary (to not say modern), but not trendy (as in short-lived). (http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/libreoffice-logo/) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordp

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ubuntu Artwork Team

2010-11-13 Thread Thorsten Wilms
onical). What you *see* if you install Ubuntu is the work of the Design Team, except for the icons. Of course we talk with each other :) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on h

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Logo Enhancements

2010-11-13 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 10:16 +0100, Johannes Bausch wrote: > And when we're at it: Can we sit down and make a LibO logo contest? > With a deadline? I suggest the following: A point of view to add: http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/01/specs-and-contests-we-all-lose.html -- Tho

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ubuntu Artwork Team

2010-11-13 Thread Thorsten Wilms
project. (The concept of a project-neutral online platform for managing assets, requests for artwork/design, structured design processes ... has been floating around and discussed at UDS a little bit.) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.c