Re: Video #2 RFC

2011-03-21 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hey Jason, Awesome work! I love the format and the music! Just one suggestion, I have the feeling that transitions between the desktop and you standing are a bit too slow. For example, the second time you show up, there's more time of transitioning than you explaining to the camera, which isn't v

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Allan Day
Brian Cameron wrote: > Allan: > > On 03/18/11 04:28 AM, Allan Day wrote: > > The message, as Olav has already pointed out, is > > that it is 'fallback', not 'classic' GNOME. It's what you get if you are > > unlucky enough not to be able to run the full GNOME 3 desktop. It isn't > > intended as som

Re: Video #2 RFC

2011-03-21 Thread Allan Day
Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 22:53, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 19:05, Jason D. Clinton > > wrote: > >> A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here. > >> Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more will be > >> produc

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello Allan, I'm actually quite worried about this use case and the impact that 3.0 can have on them. Yes, corporate desktop is not the primary target for GNOME 3.0, but it is our largest install base by a long shot (schools, corporations, public entities, universities...). I think there's some th

Re: GNOME 3.0 parties - photo gallery and Photo competition ?

2011-03-21 Thread Emily Chen
2011/3/18 Allan Day > On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 12:31 +0800, Emily Chen wrote: > > > > > > 2011/3/12 Frederic Crozat > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Emily Chen > > wrote: > > > For Best Photo Competition, in my mind, it is easy to do if > > we choose one > >

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Allan Day
Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Hello Allan, > > I'm actually quite worried about this use case and the impact that 3.0 > can have on them. Yes, corporate desktop is not the primary target for > GNOME 3.0, but it is our largest install base by a long shot (schools, > corporations, public entities, universit

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello Allan, > Do you have any suggestions for our marketing materials in this respect? > It would be great if you could look over the materials that are > currently in production. I'll send you them. Please do! > Sysadmins in general, or sysadmins in the contexts that Brian wrote > about? I'm u

New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched

2011-03-21 Thread Frederic Muller
Dear all, I've been told I should post more about the stuff we're doing for GNOME.Asia Summit here so here a humble attempt. We have pushed the updated website last night at 3am (luckily, since we had no Internet the whole day today) and everyone can view it at http://2011.gnome.asia . The

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Allan Day wrote: > Brian Cameron wrote: >> I can imagine some situations where a user would want to choose >> 'fallback' mode. For example, when accessing a remote machine via >> XDMCP or Xvnc, users would likely find that 'fallback' GNOME performs >> better - especially if latency is high.

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:15:26AM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > The large deployment sysadmins, basically the users of the distros > providing corporate desktop (such as RHEL/Solaris/SLED), Dave Richards > from PGO is probably a good example of the type I'm thiking about. I'm > unaware of any plans

Re: Video #2 RFC

2011-03-21 Thread Stormy Peters
Nice work! I think these will really make a difference to folks new to GNOME or wondering about GNOME 3. Stormy On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > A first production attempt of launch video #2 is available here. > Comments, please. The sooner, the better because two more

Re: Video #2 RFC

2011-03-21 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > A "release candidate" is now in the same spot in 4Mbit/s rendering. > Unless someone finds some problem with it, I say we try uploading this > one to our YouTube account tomorrow, try embedding it on the > gnome3.org site with UT, and

Re: Video #2 RFC

2011-03-21 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 03:58, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Just one suggestion, I have the feeling that transitions between the > desktop and you standing are a bit too slow. For example, the second > time you show up, there's more time of transitioning than you > explaining to the camera, which isn't v

Re: Video #2 RFC

2011-03-21 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:02, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Jason D. Clinton > wrote: >> >> A "release candidate" is now in the same spot in 4Mbit/s rendering. >> Unless someone finds some problem with it, I say we try uploading this >> one to our YouTube acc

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 07:15, Dave Neary wrote: >> In terms of marketing, I'm not sure it makes sense to be targeting these >> kinds of users right now. In the longer term, it would be useful to see >> wider discussion about GNOME's approach to these kinds of technical >> environments. > > I buy

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Dave Neary
Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 07:15, Dave Neary wrote: >> I buy that, but I think it's important that we have a "who is GNOME 3 >> *not* for (yet)" which covers audiences for whom GNOME 3 is not >> appropriate. And we need to have a story for them - such as "we >> recommend y

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread pec...@gmail.com
For side note I wanted to add that I'm very happy that fallback/legacy mode exists. If we are looking for actual GNOME 3 adaption, this is a must, because people won't jump to GNOME 3 stright away. They will move to it gradually. Cheers and thanks everyone for this superb release! Peter. -- mark

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:33, Dave Neary wrote: > Jason D. Clinton wrote: > Not my call - I guess Allan & Sumana, in collaboration with the > board, are fixing priorities for the next 2-3 weeks. What does the Board have to do with the Marketing Team? Allan and Sumana, as members of the Marketin

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > What does the Board have to do with the Marketing Team? Allan and > Sumana, as members of the Marketing Team, are certainly good decision > makers but the Board should not be doing any top-down management and I > certainly hope that the Board is not putting Allan and

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 13:16, Dave Neary wrote: > It appears you're happy telling people what to concentrate on, all I'm > saying is that I'm not. I would appreciate it if you would avoid ascribing me to certain positions that I am not taking. > But I bet that this will be an issue, and it's >

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Let's not get into arguments over this. I think it is a little late to be talking about running GNOME 3/Shell over VNC and virtual appliances. We have a release in less than 3 weeks. If someone is interested in this problem and interested in working on this messaging then please step up and volu

Q4 Update

2011-03-21 Thread Paul Cutler
Better late than never, I've finished the Q4 update. If anyone has time to proof it for any big spelling or grammar mistakes, I'd appreciate the help. Thanks! Paul http://foundation.gnome.org/reports/gnome-report-2010-Q4.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.

About GNOME, Support GNOME

2011-03-21 Thread Allan Day
Hi all, I've been working on the content for the new gnome.org site recently. There are a couple of pages that I would appreciate feedback on: About GNOME [1] and Support GNOME [2]. Both are early drafts. About About GNOME: it's a new version of an existing page [3]. I wanted it to be a statement

Re: About GNOME, Support GNOME

2011-03-21 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 15:25, Allan Day wrote: > About Support GNOME: we don't currently have this, but it seems pretty > essential to me. I'm sure there are plenty of items that I've missed. > Tell me what! I stopped working on the FoG videos here [1] because the FoG site was going to be redone

Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 11:37 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > Let's not get into arguments over this. I think it is a little late > to be talking about running GNOME 3/Shell over VNC and virtual > appliances. I don't think anyone is talking about fixing it. We are talking about messaging. > W