Alan writes: Aside from Nick Origlass and co, wasn't Ian Jamieson on
a council in Tasmania for a while? When he was in the DSP?
Well, I should rephrase that to formally standing as a socialist
party candidate as I had forgotten these others because of my narrow
mindset. Rather than get into a
That links to some excellemt stuff, leading to other excellent Gaelic
renderings of óró
s é do bheatha 'bhaile - of which I would love to have a translation of the
words into English, knowing no Gaelic, but surely for the Irish version of
the original anthem the link should really be to
Dennis Brasky writes:
If the Israeli Jews are offered self determination after the coming
socialist revolution, what form will that take? Won't it be a Jewish state
in Palestine - where the Palestinians would want their state? But the Jews
already have such a state, so why do they need a
Someday I will produce a post without typos etc. I don't know when, but the
odds say sooner or later, I will.
- Original Message -
From: S. Artesian sartes...@earthlink.net
To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] self
I would be wary of such a solution though Louis. France in 1940 is a good
example of how fast a terribly oppressive people can transformed into an
oppressed group in a flash. Demographically it's also a different game than
in Algeria and South Africa and I think it does matter--- in terms of how
Bhaskar Sunkara wrote:
I would be wary of such a solution though Louis. France in 1940 is a good
example of how fast a terribly oppressive people can transformed into an
oppressed group in a flash. Demographically it's also a different game than
in Algeria and South Africa and I think it
Artesian writes:
Dennis is quite write to point out that there is no such thing as
self-determination for the Afrikaners in South Africa, for the Israelis in
the Middle East, just as the French in Algeria were not entitled to, nor
struggling for self-determination.
You're right, of course. Abbas would be much more malleable than a Mandela
or even a Mbeki. But such a move would involve the Zionists abandoning
Zionism, ie. a Jewish state. The Afrikanner ruling class rejected the
notion of a seperate Afrikaner state because they didn't want to be cut off
i put Marv on moderation for a couple days until he gets clipping text
straight.
Les
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bhaskar.sunk...@gmail.com wrote:
One state-solution theorists admit that their triumph would lead to a mass
exodus of a large percentage of the current population of Israel.
I read lots of one-state literature and that's news to me.
Emotionally, I am for every single Russian immigrant from the
Dúirt Paddy Apling:
That links to some excellemt stuff, leading to other excellent Gaelic
renderings of ?r?
s ? do bheatha 'bhaile - of which I would love to have a translation
of the
words into English
In that case, take a look at:
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Bhaskar Sunkara
bhaskar.sunk...@gmail.comwrote:
The project to found Israel as a settler state was and still is ?a
crime?,
said comrade Conrad. But that crime has resulted in the coming into
being
of
an Israeli Jewish, or Hebrew, nation and a working
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Marv Gandall marvgand...@videotron.cawrote:
So you are both saying that, following the dissolution of the Zionist
state,
you would not support cultural rights for the Hebrew-speaking minority and
even a limited measure of political autonomy as an interim
As we used to say back in the day, when somebody laid out the reality of the
situation in a few incisive sentences: There it is.
Thanks go to Andy.
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Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009
I don't think people really object to the rule. I don't, and I think I
forget to clip as often as anyone else. I think we tend to get lazy,
excited, emphatic, agitated and then we forget.
Maybe an offlist warning would suffice. Can't be any more cumbersome than
putting people on moderation
NYR, Volume 56, Number 17 · November 5, 2009
'The Master Poet of Democracy'
By John Carey
The Bard: Robert Burns, A Biography
by Robert Crawford
Princeton University Press, 466 pp., $35.00
Robert Burns is different from the other great European poets both in
achievement and in reputation. If
Les Schaffer wrote:
i used to do offlist, with hugs and kisses even didn't seem to help.
Look, being moderated does not mean losing posting privileges. I only
suspend posting privileges when somebody has gotten out of hand. All
that happens in moderation is that Les checks the post
I knew very little of Rabbie Burns until I went to the UK, where labor
historians introduced me to his work. In Scotland, he is rightly treated as
a national treasure. The language peculiarities are both his charm and an
obstacle to appreciation. For us, I suppose, A Man's a Man for All That.
On Oct 18, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Dennis Brasky wrote:
Self determination means the oppressed nation BY AND FOR ITSELF
makes decisions concerning its status without feeling the need to
get approval...
And exactly how do 'Marxist Wilsonians think such a granfalloon as a
nation is supposed to
You should read some of his obscene verse also. One I vaguely remembver,
celebrates the fact that what unites king peasant is that they both
fou fou fou.
Carrol
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Swans Commentary
http://www.swans.com/
October 19, 2009
FUNDRAISING TIME: Dear readers, we need to raise $2,500 between now and the
end of the year. Without this amount of money (in addition to what we have
already received), we won't be able to maintain Swans with the quality and
Fox News Network
October 7, 2009 Wednesday
BECK: Boy, that sounds positively un-American. Yesterday, we had two
stories that seemed like no big deal if you didn't know what was behind
them. The first story was about the government getting into Internet
regulation. Remember, protect you from
Yes, indeed. Burns was essentially a rock star. It drove his more
respectable patrons to distraction. The man becomes the toast of Edinburgh,
but take your eyes off him for a minute and he's out drinking with the
disreputable and making poems to barmaids.
Those interested is a taste of this
Many of us use checks and stamps about as often now as I get something
notarized... A lot of movement fund-raising is done through PayPal. Might
I suggest that this might bring in a whole new group that's not
contributed.
ML
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Artesian writes:
[...]
If, however, you're referring to the the type of deal struck by de Klerk,
Botha with Mandela, then preserving cultural identity of the minority is
a
non-issue at best, a joke at worst, as the economic and social power of
the
minority has been preserved.
I hope Beck keeps this up. Can't hurt MR sales!!
Thanks for posting this, Louis.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/18/iran-suicide-bomb-revenge-vow
Iran blames west for deadly suicide bombing
Iran vows revenge after blast kills six Revolutionary Guards
commanders and 37 others in Sistan-Baluchistan province
* Robert Tait
* guardian.co.uk, Sunday 18 October
The People's Pugilist, Carl Sandburg...
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keep well,
christopher
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Joseph Schumpeter once wrote, the budget is the skeleton of the state
stripped of all misleading ideologies.
Schumpeter, Joseph A. 1954. The Economic Crisis of the Tax State.
International Economic Papers, 4; reprinted in Schumpeter, Joseph A.
1991. The Economics and Sociology of Capitalism,
Hate to appear like a weirdo on this point but there is the phenomenon of
quantum back action. Indeed the forming of interference patterns even when
electrons are fired one at a time through one of two open slits, an action
that ought to produce no such interfence(diffraction), ends up with
Sunday, October 18, 2009
Slumdogs, Extracts, and Fascism At The Movies
by Caleb T. Maupin
The right-wing preaches that Hollywood, California is Leftist/Marxist occupied
territory. It is true that there have been a great deal of films with a leftist
bent in recent times, not including Michael
I wish I could say it's been a while since I've read such a heartfelt,
soul-stirring, homage to reformism as Marvin's, but unfortunately I hear it
all too frequently.
First, a correction to what Marvin writes: I'd be surprised if you really
viewed the fall of apartheid as a non-issue at
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