SM:
What is not being said is that Zadokite is the same word as
Sadducee, the Greekish NT term for the established priesthood (the
successors of Zadok).
Most of the sources I went through just assume you know they are
synonyms, just as they assume
you know they are often associated with
SM: And crucial is that in the Scrolls the foremost
grievance against the priests is that they have distorted the calendar
and are holding their festivals at the wrong time. Clearly, the
Essenes (if that is what they were) of the Scrolls were essentially
*dissident Sadducees*. Calendrical
On 1/7/10, CeJ jann...@gmail.com wrote:
^
CB: Luther didn't have that much of a conflict belieiving in both, as
most of the Bible is Ye Olde Testament, which is full of affirmation
of the right divine of princes and landlords. Moses was a king of
sorts, handing down the Ten
I'm not sure what Martin Luther knew or when he knew it. But perhaps
the more interesting groups are the Anabaptists who emerge in
Europe--which brings us back to the 19th century, eventually. I grew
up close to Mennonite communities, and their intellectuals still talk
of why they now embrace
That Nazarene.org site is, to say the least, 'fascinating'. If I
understand such discussions correctly, the Essenes might have emerged
or at least co-extended to the Samaritans. And Jewish Essenes might be
identified as part of the Pharisees. I probably don't know ethnicities
from branches of
All this puts me to mind of that masterwork of 20th century science
fiction, 'A Canticle for Leibowitz'. Martin Luther certainly didn't
have the Dead Sea Scrolls or all the new scholarship on them to refer
to. Think of the NT as a Christian Talmud.
On Jan 11, 2010, at 10:11 PM, CeJ wrote:
Historians point to the emphasis on Zadokites in the Dead Sea
Scrolls as an indication that the Essenes were derived from group
of Jewish Zadokite priests.
What is not being said is that Zadokite is the same word as
Sadducee, the Greekish NT term
CeJ jann...@gmail.com wrote:
Also interesting is what Engels wrote in 1843:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/10/23.htm
The New Moral World No. 21, November 18, 1843
Germany had her Social Reformers as early as the Reformation. Soon
after Luther had begun to proclaim
^
CB: Luther didn't have that much of a conflict belieiving in both, as
most of the Bible is Ye Olde Testament, which is full of affirmation
of the right divine of princes and landlords. Moses was a king of
sorts, handing down the Ten Commandments as law, i.e. state backed
custom. Most
THESE were not Christians. I'm not sure we would call them communists
today but the source is a late 19th century, early 20th century work:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?letter=Eartid=478
Their Communism.(comp. B. M. ii. 11).
No one possesses a house absolutely his own, one which
From there he got
the chance in 1849[11] to emigrate to the United States (as one of the
Forty-Eighters).
^
CB: I wonder if he fought in the US Civil War.
I don't see Weitling mentioned in this section from Chapter III.
Socialist and Communist Literature the critique of other communist
It was Weitling or another major exile that was involved in the
American abolitionist movement and organized a German-speaking
regiment in the Union army. I need to check my book on the Ohio
Hegelians. . . . Oh, the individual in question is August Willich.
At 08:48 AM 1/6/2010, c b wrote:
Yeah, and Willich was a true communist or something, as M E
categorize the Socialist and Communist Lit
CB
On 1/6/10, Ralph Dumain rdum...@autodidactproject.org wrote:
It was Weitling or another major exile that was involved in the
American abolitionist movement and organized a German-speaking
Daniel_Dennett wikipedia note:
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism-thaxis/2006-February/019940.html
Daniel Clement Dennett (born March 28, 1942) is a prominent American
philosopher. Dennett's research centers on philosophy of mind and philosophy
of science, particularly as those fields
Another post from Ralph on Dennett.
CB
Dennett's Breaking the Spell
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Wed Feb 1 02:33:18 MST 2006
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Another biologist on religion. Wilson is a main sociobiologist.
CB
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism-thaxis/2005-November/019411.html
Wilson: science and religion are incompatible
Charles Brown cbrown at michiganlegal.org
Thu Nov 17 13:52:26 MST 2005
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Wilson is another reactionary ignoramus, certainly not a new
atheist, any more than his pal Dawkins is new.
At 01:43 PM 1/6/2010, c b wrote:
Another biologist on religion. Wilson is a main sociobiologist.
CB
http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism-thaxis/2005-November/019411.html
When I look at the archives, my Weitling post looks cut off. Something
must have happened with the text pasted into the gmail.
At any rate, more interesting is his own work in pdf online.
www.duke.edu/web/secmod/primarytexts/Weitling-SinnersGospel.pdf
Do it as a separate download (right click,
Was I referring specifically to Nestorians? No, that is why I used the
broader term 'non-trinitarian', which would include Christians who did
not think Christ a god, and if 'divine', no more divine than the rest
of humanity.
The Nestorians appear to have 'softened up' C. Asia to Islamic
The piece that CB had posted was referring to the first century
Christians, several centuries before the First Council of Nicea--by
the fourth century we could say that the sectarian lines dividing
Christians from Jews and Samaritans (and 'pagans') were already well
in place. In the first century,
Could God die again?
Death of God theology was a 1960s phenomenon that casts light on the
narrowness of the current debate
Nathan Schneider
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 4 October 2009 09.00 BST
It is a familiar scene. A religious revival has just swept through the
United States, spurred in part by
Unlike some of the prominent atheists of today, these thinkers knew
intimately the theology they were attacking. Life after God, they
believed, could not move forward without understanding the debt it
owed to the religious culture that had gone before. Consequently the
movement went far beyond the
The weak points in the abstract materialism of natural science, a
materialism that excludes history and its process, are at once
evident from the abstract and ideological conceptions of its
spokesmen, whenever they venture beyond the bounds of their own speciality.
--- Karl Marx
Terry
Ralph Dumain wrote:
What Dawkins et al are deficient in is far more serious. First, they
are philosophically naive or inept. They don't understand the
interplay between the realms of philosophy and empirical science (cum
scientific theory), and they don't understand how philosophy works.
So
Yes, but I'm not using the artificial grouping of new atheists
created by the news media. There are prominent atheists of different
stripes. I'm addressing only the non-philosophers--the scientists or
quasi-scientists--who engage in philosophical arguments. Dawkins is
no philosopher, and
On 1/5/10, Ralph Dumain rdum...@autodidactproject.org wrote:
Yes, but I'm not using the artificial grouping of new atheists
created by the news media. There are prominent atheists of different
stripes. I'm addressing only the non-philosophers--the scientists or
quasi-scientists--who engage in
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:49:44 -0500 Ralph Dumain
rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes:
The weak points in the abstract materialism of natural science, a
materialism that excludes history and its process, are at once
evident from the abstract and ideological conceptions of its
spokesmen,
We already got the atheist millenarianism revival with that stupid
book, Empire.
But looking back, way back, we see that:
Here was an action man. But alas ME reviled him--and resented him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Weitling
Wilhelm Weitling
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